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jeffvip
post Jun 18 2011, 04:27 PM

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I lag too... then I restart my modem n my pc... so now ok.

fyi, I'm normal streamyx user. 4Mbps though
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:02 PM

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i on unifi also lag -.-
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:05 PM

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lag start kicking in... damn.

MMA will do need to do a comeback again...as usual
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:26 PM

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very smooth for me and i am on 1mbps O.o
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:52 PM

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why are tastosis keep saying Polt is amazing? Damn, this is a bored final. Rushed game and they are praising it? OMG...

MMA really need to keep his defend up against another rush like that, is your fault MMA!
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Jun 18 2011, 05:52 PM)
why are tastosis keep saying Polt is amazing? Damn, this is a bored final. Rushed game and they are praising it? OMG...

MMA really need to keep his defend up against another rush like that, is your fault MMA!
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polt is amazing cause of his control and decision making...
good games doesnt have to be macro based game...
mma went with harassment based build and like all harassment based build u lack army and the one which go for a big timing atk would be able to win the game...
polt changed the TvT metagame from the usual boring blueflame/banshee -> tank
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:56 PM

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MMA early game is really getting exploited by Polt at the moment

Well if there is someone to do a comeback win, surely it's MMA
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:57 PM

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btw what polt did in the crossfire game is awesome...
it is a high tempo play build that pressure and expand at he same time...
remember when MVP did a similar build in metalo vs one of the ogs?
it was the same concept and as i remmeber u all were worshiping MVP for it lol...
just because it is polt he get the hate...
mind u polt have the 2nd highest ELO in KR atm...
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post Jun 18 2011, 05:59 PM

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i duno lulz cause i can't watch a single game without any lags from gomtv already sad.gif
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post Jun 18 2011, 06:08 PM

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post Jun 18 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 18 2011, 05:55 PM)
polt is amazing cause of his control and decision making...
good games doesnt have to be macro based game...
mma went with harassment based build and like all harassment based build u lack army and the one which go for a big timing atk would be able to win the game...
polt changed the TvT metagame from the usual boring blueflame/banshee -> tank
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 18 2011, 05:57 PM)
btw what polt did in the crossfire game is awesome...
it is a high tempo play build that pressure and expand at he same time...
remember when MVP did a similar build in metalo vs one of the ogs?
it was the same concept and as i remmeber u all were worshiping MVP for it lol...
just because it is polt he get the hate...
mind u polt have the 2nd highest ELO in KR atm...
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Nope. I disagreed at all. The good game for me only come from macro game where a few incident is happening all over the place. I'm sure so many ppl is gonna disappoint with this kind of rush in the final of USD100,000 competition .Btw, I never like MVP style earlier, remember me keep complaining why SC2 cannot be so epic as BW. IMO, MMA cannot just cut corner for the sake of harassment.
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post Jun 18 2011, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Jun 18 2011, 06:08 PM)
Nope. I disagreed at all. The good game for me only come from macro game where a few incident is happening all over the place. I'm sure so many ppl is gonna disappoint with this kind of rush in the final of USD100,000 competition .Btw, I never like MVP style earlier, remember me keep complaining why SC2 cannot be so epic as BW. IMO, MMA cannot just cut corner for the sake of harassment.
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if u follow TvT it is all about harassment early game...
and what polt did in the current meta is just beautiful, as many claimed he changed the metagame of TvT...
sc2 is a strategy game...
note on the strategy part and that is where polt excel beautifully at...
why u wanna spread ur army thing engaging everywhere when u can jz go to his base?

if u gonna cut corners, u gonna die to rushes...
"ARE U NOT ENTERTAINED???" (gladiator)
not that this is esport, not soap opera like WWE...
people play to win, not for entertainment

btw how was game3 not entertaining?
it was 1scv vs 4scv LOL


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:16 pmoh ya must i add in terms of recommended game (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234480)
all 4 games are recommended (43, 84, 85, 60%)...
so u were saying about ppl being disappointed?

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post Jun 18 2011, 06:20 PM

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I don't care what logic u throw at me. The fact I know now is that I'm not entertained at all. Game 4 is a lil bit better. I'm so disappointed. Expect more from MMA btw. The recent MSL, Flash owned Zero 3-0, but those 3 are epic games. Is not just rush all in and win the game. Just like Bunker rush is powerful against zerg, Boxer did that 3 times against Yellow and won the final but those who attend the event feel they shouldn't be going there that day.
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post Jun 18 2011, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Jun 18 2011, 06:20 PM)
I don't care what logic u throw at me. The fact I know now is that I'm not entertained at all. Game 4 is a lil bit better. I'm so disappointed. Expect more from MMA btw. The recent MSL, Flash owned Zero 3-0, but those 3 are epic games. Is not just rush all in and win the game. Just like Bunker rush is powerful against zerg, Boxer did that 3 times against Yellow and won the final but those who attend the event feel they shouldn't be going there that day.
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what?
when was the rush allin as i dun see scv being pulled lol?
the stim and shells where the perfect answer to the blueflame/banshee harassment from MMA...
polt simply outplay MMA in the finals...
did his homework and react appropriately...

the game on crossfire was 1 vs 4 scv...
how can u not be entertained???
polt was constantly pressuring mma, trading armies to keep the tank count low while defending his gold...

again this is a sport...
if u want esport to be taken seriously, look at it as a sport not "oh it was boring, nt entertaining"...
people play to win, not for entertainment...
its like soccer when team A trash team B 4-0 due to having the better team and PLAYING BETTER all throughout the match...
do u claim it not entertaining?
i think only fans of team B would claim such...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
if u follow TvT it is all about harassment early game...
and what polt did in the current meta is just beautiful, as many claimed he changed the metagame of TvT...
sc2 is a strategy game...
note on the strategy part and that is where polt excel beautifully at...
why u wanna spread ur army thing engaging everywhere when u can jz go to his base?

if u gonna cut corners, u gonna die to rushes...
"ARE U NOT ENTERTAINED???" (gladiator)
not that this is esport, not soap opera like WWE...
people play to win, not for entertainment

btw how was game3 not entertaining?
it was 1scv vs 4scv LOL


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:16 pmoh ya must i add in terms of recommended game (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=234480)
all 4 games are recommended (43, 84, 85, 60%)...
so u were saying about ppl being disappointed?
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this is not a powerful stat dude. for some1 who as frustrated as me, they would just close pc. I just check the trend of twitter about gsl; these are some of them

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-WTF is with the one sided, lame #gsl finals for the last (now) three seasons. Dammit guys. Goddamnit. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. @Ariwalol

-I'll continue to buy GSTL tickets but not GSL tickets. It's completely out of GOM's control but I still don't like it. @grybsharkey

-someday i will see a good #GSL final. that day is not today though @justgrayt

-Just finished watching #GSL! Could have been more interesting but the Underdog winning 4 in a row is still pretty awesome. @danaemc

-Yet another incredibly dissapointing #GSL final @GOMTV. When will we get an interesting final?

-lol, worst gsl finals by leaps and bounds. #gslfinalsalwayssuck #gsl #lol

-I think #GSL must be cursed to always have absolutely amazing semifinals and lopsided/silly finals.


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post Jun 18 2011, 06:33 PM

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LOL at people claiming polt as underdog...
seriously? polt underdog???

MMA: codeA
Polt: codeS with 2nd highest ELO

and from the trend i see equal of sides...
since qoute some i shall do the same

@Reboot2099
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#GSL finals one sided yet again but
this time, I am not disappointed! A 4-0 by the guy everyone thought was a loser who doesn't belong? Win!

@MoonSoshi9
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I'm all hyped up from #GSL, how
am I supposed to get a couple hours of sleep now?!

@juju_lol
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A senior at Korea's Yale with finals coming up + sweep the finals of a video game tournament = Biwinning #GSL
#PoltPrime.WE

@FIFA_MFC_Coach
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Hoooooooooooooooly shit! #GSL
was awesome!

@HighStakesPoka
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#GSL curse strikes again, but in an
amazing, amazing way.


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:34 pmfor those who wanna see for themselves instead of reading copy paste: http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23GSL

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post Jun 18 2011, 06:36 PM

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thanks for searching. you will see. there are 3 type of comment. 'gsl sux', 'gsl amazing' and 'gsl congratulations'. I think GSL SUX and GSL Congratulations is the major portion
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Polt is btr than MMA. MMA had been cutting corner all the while someone need to punish him.

to me, GSTL finals is always awesome. GSL finals are always anticlimatic other than GSL 2.
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i cant see the logic that a game is not entertaining if: -
- it is 1 sided when both players are equally good but one just play on a whole new level and could very well change the metagame of a mirror match (that is what genius do in games)
- it is not a macro game when the so called 'rush' (i rather call it timing) was perfectly plotted such as hiding the techlab-ed reactor and the marauders. Not to mention the build is the perfect answer to what the other player is doing
- the so called 'underdog' wins even when he is in codeS with the 2nd highest ELO in korea playing
- the fan favourite aka son of boxer lost


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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Jun 18 2011, 06:36 PM)
thanks for searching. you will see. there are 3 type of comment. 'gsl sux', 'gsl amazing' and 'gsl congratulations'. I think GSL SUX and GSL Congratulations is the major portion
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that's y i link the feed for people to judge themselves instead =p
i think people who read most of it would be able to decide for themselves do most people love it or not...


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:45 pmoh ya remember when MKP beat FD in GSL2 with marine scv allin?
that was soooo not entertaining for some of u i bet...
after all it is a rush and MKP is a boring player...

^ remember the reactions for those games? even ppl claiming MKP brought sk-terran to sc2? where is MKP now? what polt did was the same as what MKP did without the allin...

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post Jun 18 2011, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jun 18 2011, 06:39 PM)
i cant see the logic that a game is not entertaining if: -
- it is 1 sided when both players are equally good but one just play on a whole new level and could very well change the metagame of a mirror match (that is what genius do in games)
- it is not a macro game when the so called 'rush' (i rather call it timing) was perfectly plotted such as hiding the techlab-ed reactor and the marauders. Not to mention the build is the perfect answer to what the other player is doing
- the so called 'underdog' wins even when he is in codeS with the 2nd highest ELO in korea playing
- the fan favourite aka son of boxer lost


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:40 pm

that's y i link the feed for people to judge themselves instead =p
i think people who read most of it would be able to decide for themselves do most people love it or not...


Added on June 18, 2011, 6:45 pmoh ya remember when MKP beat FD in GSL2 with marine scv allin?
that was soooo not entertaining for some of u i bet...
after all it is a rush and MKP is a boring player...

^ remember the reactions for those games? even ppl claiming MKP brought sk-terran to sc2? where is MKP now? what polt did was the same as what MKP did without the allin...
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haha... u try to find negative comment for the game MMA vs Losira (MLG Final) , or Sc vs Nestea (CodeS semi) or just now Sc vs DRG.. if the game are good, u cant find -ve comment. now we have a tons of that...

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