leaking at oil sump area, already changed oil sump gasket 2 times but problem still persist when i used Q8 5W-40 fully syn..

previously with Pennzoil 5W-40 fully syn, no problem at all..

both oils have same grade, they should have same thickness rite? (from my understanding by reading your comments, maybe I misunderstood somewhere)

why valve seals leak pulak?

This post has been edited by Kirie: Jul 7 2011, 11:08 PM

SL doesn't mean it's low quality, alright? These API standards are only benchmark lines. So what if the oil bottle describes "exceeds API SL/SM"? Have you really tried liqui moly's oils?

By the way... the oil IS GREYISH BLACK IN COLOUR

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Added on July 7, 2011, 10:34 pmusing a 0w30 and 5w30 is not gonna make any difference I shall say. You should take a look at a VISCOSITY CHART and have a look at 0w and 5w is at WHAT TEMPERATURE. And we willch never, ever experience none of these temperatures, not even in Genting nor Cameron.

Heck, I've even used SAE40 monogrades in my engine without any problems. These oils are better in general as they don't have polymers to stretch the viscosities. So.. where's the damage?


You've been telling the whole forum that you can't, or it's not advisable to use a 0w30 on a viva. Therefore, everyone got this wrong knowledge and follow, thus the conclusion to your facts.


No offense, but do you really know how to read the viscosity chart?


Lastly, if you agree that Liqui Moly's Oil is only at SL and is deemed lousy, here's a fact :

I respect all my Threebond customers when they say they get E oil from online sellers, at a much cheaper price than I sell my LiquiMoly and Qmax. However, the moment they pour a bottle of liqui moly engine oil into their crankcase, I'm deemed to get return customers.

Liqui Moly retains it's oil quality even after 5-6k



dot

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Added on July 7, 2011, 10:36 pmAnother fact?


Use too thick of an oil for engine, the oil doesnt pass through the oil channels properly.

Use too thin of an oil for engine, you lose oil pressure


Use too thick of an oil for engine, it becomes sluggish

Use too thin of an oil for an engine, premature failure and seizure due to lubricating film breaking at certain circumstances

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Added on July 7, 2011, 10:38 pmAnswer is NO. Because 0w50 is too thick for viva. That's common sense. If 0w30 I'd happily agree

This post has been edited by ThunderGod_Cid: Jul 7 2011, 10:38 PM

I dont get why so much hatred for liqui moly...
There is one bmw expert in kota damansara that pours liqui moly for his clients... If its really bad why would he use it on beemers?
Checking the forums online, many 911 owners in us /uk also pour it for their cars...

So, why te hatred?

You flushed the engine already . You know what to try next lol.

Haha, indeed. In fact i was able to source the mos2 addictive, just poured it in today. The car feels smoother n lighter. Im eager to try out LM 10-40....

But i dont get it why some are blindly against a brand....? Are the germans that dumb to create something that is inferior than, even petronas...

as i mentioned in the other oil thread. It's all about advertising.

The MOS2 additive is what makes the engine oil a tad pricey compared to their competitors. And also do note that the 5w40 Synthoil fully synth from Liquimoly do not have MOS2.. hence I carry Qmax as it performs much better.

Or well.. maybe there were just plain dumb =.=

yo elton, you think is it worth it for my car to try semi syn? wanting that extra kick on the engine on the next maintenance, which is around 800ish km more

engine leak at oil sump it because of the gasket.. not because of the oil..normally if u have white smoke problem.. cause by valve seal leak.. sometimes they called it engine leak...

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Added on July 8, 2011, 12:02 pmthe different between API SM and SL.

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin...p/pc/index.html

choose API SM and compare with API SL and SJ..

there is other API.. but not in the software.
API SN and SG


This post has been edited by gagak_84: Jul 8 2011, 12:02 PM

I saw a youtube recently...once guy claims he worked in Suzuki,....then put some snake oil into someone's engine ( he sells the snake oil) and claims it is "TOP OVERHAUL DONE IN 15 MINUTES"....The poor sucker who kena con (brand new Inspira) got white smoke coming out of his car oready...

These are the kind of people who claims they work in so and so big motor company...but knows next to NOTHING. LOL.

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Added on July 8, 2011, 9:05 pmw- related to viscosity in WINTER DEGREE MEANING below 0C(there is an actual range for each ratings, but i forgot) you dumb arse! You got see snow in Malaysia or not???
And it usually only applies to cold start coz that's where the oil fails to give protection in cold freezing condition.

And please do some googling on what is SAE. You have absolutely no freaking idea.

Here, see if you brain this or not. Free info for your lazy arse.

http://www.ideas4ag-ed.com/uploads/3/7/0/4...l_viscosity.pdf

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Added on July 8, 2011, 9:19 pmBecause your customer have been brainwashed by your stupidity(or vice versa) and the chain of ignorance continue from one user to another like a disease.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 8 2011, 09:19 PM

looks like my long post of right facts went unread =.=

huh this fella aa, i've been observing long time already. since he started his business here, every thread in technical talk he'll drop his comments. very2 active nowadays. like nothing to do besides commenting.

i rather buy Qmax with Elton even the price tag is RM2xx over E brand. go to hell No 1 in japang or not.

and go to hell also with ur qualification. u're not a registered engineer anyway. have u registered with the board? no? exam? haven't taken? no Ir? so? why so arrogant?

I'm a Quantity Surveyor. but i'm not a registered QS. not registered with Board of Quantity Surveyors Malaysia. not an Sr (Surveyor), Ar (Architect), Ir )(Engineer). so? even i know how to do QS work, there are still a lot of things to be learnt. and maybe someone out there with no qualification in QS knows about construction. and i still can learn something from him.

aiyoo..u aa...adoi..x tau mcm mana mau cakap aa.
ni la masalahnya klu asek nak tunjuk pandai, drop comment sana sini, bla3. baik duduk, diam. lg bgs. klu pandai pun, senyap2 dah la. org klu betul2 professional, xde buat perangai mcm ni.

Wah so 'rugi' not registering with ISM bro... currently can get Sr without exam . Who know later they'll revoke the reuqirement to get Sr title - with exam.

But you may have the same reason as I am - ANNUAL FEE

cold start at cold temperatures referring to the viscosity chart, not 'malaysian' chart.


lol

because it snows in malaysia. thats why.

2 place in shah alam have snow what

btw, for single grade oil, is it tends to freeze in cold weather (read snowy winter)?

i'll change to wtf after u change to gagap,sengap,bingai & bodopiang.

hey elton, come on, u're not engineer man. u enjin nyior. u know what is enjin nyior? hahaha..remember u're an ordinary guy? preventive guy? u're not engineer man. not an Ir. u know nothing dude. same goes to me. all i know is dropping provocative and negative comments only. not like him. he has done quite a number of contribution in Automotive world. just keep ur mouth shut la elton. (my mouth also)

alamak..registered civil engineer who designed structures which fail after some time also can be considered as professional. f**cking consultant who designed anything related to their field also sometimes fail and cikai also. they to have the Ar, Ir and Sr. but they're still human.

bye. tgk blue lg best.

eh neotoxin, dkt mana di shah alam yg ada salji tu. aku duk s.alam jgk. xpernah nmpk pun?

xpyhlah register dgn ism. esk2 la bila ada firm qs sndiri. setakat keje kuli batak dgn org, xnak ler aku register heh heh heh..

where is your post bro?
link plz.
TQ.

eh, another thing. i realized after checking out the stock in tesco.
tescos castrol magnatec 10-40 is sl rated. and i then went online to check out a few sites from uk . mobil uk's semi syn 10-40 is sl rated. so is castrol uk semi syn , its sl rated. hell, even amsoil semi syn is sl rated.

source for mobil :
http://www.mobil.co.uk/UK-English-LCW/care...-x1-10w40.aspx#

source for castrol semi syn :
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-752-castrol-ma...ew-product.aspx

source for amsoil semi syn :
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1045-amsoil-sy...amo-10w-40.aspx


so , from this i can conclude :
1.malaysian packed lubricants are actually higher spec'ed
2. nothing wrong in using sl rated oil since it still seems to be the widely available oil in a country where they even tax the car owner for emission and co2 amount.

castrol SN already..

xphr34k : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1882978/+40#