i wonder why in one of the pic, the owner put disposable co2 for marimo..more nice ar marimo?
Marimo, Japanese Moss Ball ♥♥♥, Share your ♥ towards this cute algae
Marimo, Japanese Moss Ball ♥♥♥, Share your ♥ towards this cute algae
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Dec 28 2011, 05:13 PM
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i wonder why in one of the pic, the owner put disposable co2 for marimo..more nice ar marimo?
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Dec 29 2011, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(DimpleDee @ Dec 28 2011, 10:17 PM) Hiya~ the blue is like keep kura-kura or penyu..kekekke...Newbie here~ lee yung is really a fast and reliable seller here are 2 photos of my dearies now, bought the containers from daiso~ its a bit bare now, any suggestions on what deco to add? [attachmentid=2610067][attachmentid=2610078] the one u bought from daiso, peel off the sticker la..nt nice ler.. try to get a nano tank at least lo..not expensive as well. ur marimo will be happy floating there. if want budget, go to get those set nano tank..comes with filter..then u wont have a dead water. ~ beeling0212~ Cheers to Leeyung |
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Dec 29 2011, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(leeyung @ Dec 29 2011, 08:52 AM) panjang cerita ni~! hahahaha..just wana acknowledge u jek...all my 13 marimos and 1 carpet sill healthy...Marimo from online marimo (facebook)/nigel koo (curve, 1utama, pav) = ALL KO..They are waiting to meet Nigel down there. |
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Dec 30 2011, 08:24 AM
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Feb 27 2012, 01:23 PM
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hi there,
i also noticed that my marimo in my tank become brown. I wonder is it bcz of the T-5 Lights. please advise.. |
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Feb 28 2012, 09:41 AM
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water change 1 week once 30%
its a planted tank with cannister. I also wonder why t5 can make brown the marimo. then my flying box go there makan the brown part of it, making me to use my tweezer to hits its' backside...*piak*piak* |
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Nov 8 2012, 03:55 PM
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Hi shifus,
few questions need to be asked in here. 1. 1.5feet tank can fit in how many gaint and nano marimo? 2. what type of lights are required? i am using t5 for my planted. i guess it will be too strong for them. any picture of the light i can used? or just normal room light? how many hours need to on? 3. when do water change, how many % need to water change? 100% or like planted tanks 30%? 4. if i got a lot marimos, all put to fridge at night, and next day put to tank? whats the effect? 5. can use ice water to fill in the tank? my tank is still emtpy now. so, when i start, possible to pour in all cold water? is anti chlorine needed? 6. can i throw many cubes of ice in there anytime? 7. If i am back to my hometown, and possible if there is no light for a week? please advise and sorry for all those noob questions. Added on November 8, 2012, 4:24 pmadd on: need to put salt??? This post has been edited by cute_miao: Nov 8 2012, 04:24 PM |
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Nov 10 2012, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Nov 10 2012, 06:22 PM) 1. 1.5 feet tall? How long? How wide? Thanks bro.2. I'm using one 24w T5 for my 60L, no problems. Also, see below and read the first page. 3. I've done anywhere between 30% to 100%. Doesn't seem to make a difference. Just do your best to avoid huge changes in temperature or other parameters. 4. As opposed to a few marimo only? 5. Where are you going to get that much ice water? Also, see below and read the first page. 6. Just avoid thermal shock. Letting the ice melt on its own should make it gradual enough. 7. See below. put in cube ice to make the water cold always. i got a big huge fridge. i thought they like cold cold. by the way, it will kill them if the temperature change a lot by throwing ice cubes frequently (except sat n sun) Added on November 11, 2012, 12:34 amsome ppl seling marimo nutrient, claiming it can enhance its growth. betul ke? This post has been edited by cute_miao: Nov 11 2012, 12:34 AM |
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Nov 12 2012, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Nov 11 2012, 01:08 PM) Depends. If you're swinging the temps around 10C over short periods (1-2 hours) of time, it could be bad. Better to keep it constant, even if it means having a higher average temp. Better yet, why not consider getting a chiller if you're so worried about temps? (Or chuck the whole tank in your enormous fridge.) Again, use search function, it's been mentioned a few times, but I'll give you a freebie this time. Leeyung, the famous guy who sells marimo on this thread (and other places), says marimo "food" and "salt" are essentially useless besides making the owner feel better about themselves, and are probably obscenely overpriced regular aquatic supplements. Think about it, they're selling these magical vials of marimo fairy food, but don't bother telling you what's in them. They grow in lakes where many other plants grow, taking in the same nutrients as they do. You may try regular planted tank fertilizer, but leeyung says he's tested them with no noticeable effect either. Before you question his judgement, remember he has nothing to gain by claiming these things as he doesn't sell supplements himself. Many of the principles regarding the care of planted tanks apply to marimo. The rule is plants only grow as quickly as the lowest available nutrient allows them. You may have all parameters ticked off except one, and still not improve growth rate. 1. Nutrients: Marimo grow very slowly and thus absorb nutrients at a very slow rate. This is why they don't respond very well to added fertilizer or "food". That said, water changes every few weeks will help maintain available nutrients, and you may supplement with a little fertilizer in case your tapwater isn't balanced. 2. Light: Marimo live at the bottom of lakes most of the time. They can survive on very low light and thrive in low to medium light. From what I've seen, marimo only pearl when there is a LOT of light shining on them, but in the winter, Lake Akan freezes over, blocking out most of the sun for months. You could take this to mean marimo can persevere without light in low temperatures, but you didn't hear it from me. I've seen some people claim cooler temps encourage growth, but Leeyung recommends higher temps (around 26 if I remember correctly) 3. Filtration: installing a filter will aerate and keep the tank clear. Again, just to make sure the marimo receive adequate CO2 and O2. 4. Salinity: There's a theory going around that Lake Akan used share its water supply with the sea, and that the current measured glacial growth rate (5mm a year) is due to the fact that Lake Akan no longer receives this saltwater and salinity has fallen. Carpet marimo are observed to grow "thickest" where the lake receives saltwater from nearby springs. Read here: http://www.marimo-web.org/en/b-spherical/b3-salt_water.html Some people (like the post on the first page) recommend a 5% concentration saline solution to revive sick marimo. This is even more concentrated than saltwater, so I think you have a lot of room to play with setting up an appropriate salinity for your marimo. by the way, what is the actual shape of a marimo? some i see is flat , some is sphere, and some is like sphere but bengkak a bit (for giant). and for the nano, is it really full round? some i see, like the cebisan moss, and ppl just roll it round.but in a short time, the roll will open, n become a flat marimo ps: Regrettably a lot of this is pseudo-scientific opinion and anecdotal advice. As such nobody can claim to be the absolute authority on marimo care. (Unless you're a marimo scientist.) Added on November 12, 2012, 12:42 am[quote=Kaisergrendel,Nov 11 2012, 01:08 PM]Depends. If you're swinging the temps around 10C over short periods (1-2 hours) of time, it could be bad. Better to keep it constant, even if it means having a higher average temp. Better yet, why not consider getting a chiller if you're so worried about temps? (Or chuck the whole tank in your enormous fridge.) Again, use search function, it's been mentioned a few times, but I'll give you a freebie this time. Leeyung, the famous guy who sells marimo on this thread (and other places), says marimo "food" and "salt" are essentially useless besides making the owner feel better about themselves, and are probably obscenely overpriced regular aquatic supplements. Think about it, they're selling these magical vials of marimo fairy food, but don't bother telling you what's in them. They grow in lakes where many other plants grow, taking in the same nutrients as they do. You may try regular planted tank fertilizer, but leeyung says he's tested them with no noticeable effect either. Before you question his judgement, remember he has nothing to gain by claiming these things as he doesn't sell supplements himself. Many of the principles regarding the care of planted tanks apply to marimo. The rule is plants only grow as quickly as the lowest available nutrient allows them. You may have all parameters ticked off except one, and still not improve growth rate. 1. Nutrients: Marimo grow very slowly and thus absorb nutrients at a very slow rate. This is why they don't respond very well to added fertilizer or "food". That said, water changes every few weeks will help maintain available nutrients, and you may supplement with a little fertilizer in case your tapwater isn't balanced. 2. Light: Marimo live at the bottom of lakes most of the time. They can survive on very low light and thrive in low to medium light. From what I've seen, marimo only pearl when there is a LOT of light shining on them, but in the winter, Lake Akan freezes over, blocking out most of the sun for months. You could take this to mean marimo can persevere without light in low temperatures, but you didn't hear it from me. I've seen some people claim cooler temps encourage growth, but Leeyung recommends higher temps (around 26 if I remember correctly) 3. Filtration: installing a filter will aerate and keep the tank clear. Again, just to make sure the marimo receive adequate CO2 and O2. 4. Salinity: There's a theory going around that Lake Akan used share its water supply with the sea, and that the current measured glacial growth rate (5mm a year) is due to the fact that Lake Akan no longer receives this saltwater and salinity has fallen. Carpet marimo are observed to grow "thickest" where the lake receives saltwater from nearby springs. Read here: http://www.marimo-web.org/en/b-spherical/b3-salt_water.html Some people (like the post on the first page) recommend a 5% concentration saline solution to revive sick marimo. This is even more concentrated than saltwater, so I think you have a lot of room to play with setting up an appropriate salinity for your marimo. by the way, what is the actual shape of a marimo? some i see is flat , some is sphere, and some is like sphere but bengkak a bit (for giant). and for the nano, is it really full round? some i see, like the cebisan moss, and ppl just roll it round.but in a short time, the roll will open, n become a flat marimo Added on November 12, 2012, 1:06 amif i put brightly K into marimo tank, is there any effect? This post has been edited by cute_miao: Nov 12 2012, 01:06 AM |
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Nov 12 2012, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(Kaisergrendel @ Nov 12 2012, 08:38 PM) In its basic form, marimo is an algae filament - strands of algae only a few cells wide. Depending on the enviroment, they can become entangled and form any of the shapes you've seen. They're all marimo, but the most famous appearance is the ball shape. "Cebisan" moss (which you should be calling algae), start best as nano marimo, which bond together more strongly the longer they live. I've made a few of these myself. If they fall apart, they're too big; split it up and start over. Brighty k is one of the supplementary (nutrient) i used in my planted tank. Its from ADA. so i wonder is there any effect ot itWhat is "brightly K"? |
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Hihi,
Need some clarifications from expert in here. I get this info from google. need to verify it. 1. marimo need nutrient? Those i saw some sellers sell those nutrients blue in clour as well in pavillion and facebook. 2. it is advisable to keep nano and giant seperately? 3. ussage of power head filter is better than hanging back filter? why ar?? 4. what is the best watt for lightning marimo? n how many hours? some say t5 and pll 6-8 hours also no problem wor... 5. some claim water lousy will prohibits the growth of marimo. how to make the water not lousy wor?? 6. no need to water change for marimo? just take n wash it in running water then put back? 7. room light is not sufficient even on for 5-8 hours. 8. dont do fridge spa too often. actually fridge spa, can do daily or not? 5pm - 8am? 9. if i put marimo in fridge from friday (5pm) till monday (8am), will marimo mati? some say will..cz no light. Please advise my shifus here. |
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Nov 16 2012, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(ElizabethT @ Nov 16 2012, 09:49 AM) Friend bought me a marimo as my birthday present. I have been reading the 128 pages of this thread I know that we cant use UV lights as it will kill the marimo. Question is, i got this light previously. But i already throw the box away. so i dont know whether this light can be used or not. please advise. Added on November 16, 2012, 9:50 am p/s: my tank is 45cm x 30 cm x 33cm |
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QUOTE(Azure_Fox @ Nov 18 2012, 11:38 AM) none fish eat poo XD If you have another plants beside of marimo, poo is good for their nutritions if you dont like, then syphon the poo by using a small hose (really efficient!) by sucking them via ur mouth (but don't swallow it!) when your tank is still new, remember to give ur bottom fishes some food, like algae wafers if you don't have algae in ur tank yet, give the otto cucumber, drowned it to the bottom by binding it to a small stone my otto eat cucumber in the first time, now they always eat algae/slime in the tank. Only feed the Bettas now.. I think u don't want to add Chinese Algae Eater, because when they're getting Bigger they sometimes kills other small fish... This post has been edited by cute_miao: Nov 18 2012, 11:55 AM |
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