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 Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best v3, NP9130/9150/9170 with Ivy Bridge

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Hamster X
post Jul 10 2011, 02:44 PM

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Does anyone here have any comments on Sager's reliability? I need a laptop to last me 4 years(my whole uni degree) and I'm considering the NP5165.

I'm going to be a mechanical engineer if that matters. If I change major it'll still be engineering so I do need a somewhat powerful laptop.
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post Jul 11 2011, 05:55 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 10 2011, 05:24 PM)
If you always clean dust on the vents and don't simply OC your laptop, it should be able to last for 4 years easily. Especially for models NP8130 onwards which have 2 vents.
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So there are no build quality issues or anything? I'm going to be quite mobile with it. It probably won't be sitting in my dorm room that much.

EDIT: Also which processor should I be getting for engineering? Is an i5 enough or should I opt for an i7? I'm worried about heat problems though.

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post Jul 11 2011, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 11 2011, 06:10 AM)
Built quality has no problem at all, these Sager models has launched more than half year.
i5 is suitable for gaming, since gaming doesn't necessary need 4 cores. i7 is suitable for programming, designing and multi-tasking purpose.
Heat: i7>i5. However, there is no heat problem on the machine you mentioned, but NP8 series cooling design is better though.
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I see. Thanks for everything. So would you recommend the i7 2630QM over the i5 2520M for my case?

Also how much battery life would I be looking at here, 4-5 hours? Assuming minimal usage in lectures/library/whatever.
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post Jul 11 2011, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 11 2011, 02:40 PM)
Gaming go for i5, Multi-tasking go for i7.
NP5165 cannot last for 4-5 hours, but it can last for 2.5 to 3 hours, it depends on the brightness of screen and your usage, i5 has less power consumption.
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This here is my dilemma wink.gif
QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 11 2011, 05:08 PM)
Well for the terms of gaming, as you would know current games most are using 2 cores out of 4 cores, or even like 970 and 990 options as a 6 core CPU. Some of few games over market are managed to take advantages of all the QUAD CORE CPUs, even though that would not be bad to tell you difference of a i5 and i7 with a GTX 560M in a game such as DIRT 3 in FPS would be like 1 to 5 FPS difference !!!! well Core i7 is much suitable for purpose of a heavy multi tasking which would be quiet dependent on which CPU u might use (2620QM, 2720QM, 2820QM or 2920XM)  - there will not be any heat problem if you are going with core i7 sandy-bridge which are producing less heat and using less power consumption as well.
Well for your propose i am recommednign you core i7 2720QM to up smile.gif
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How different is the 2720QM compared to the 2630QM? It's an extra 160 dollar upgrade for that =/
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post Jul 11 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 11 2011, 07:06 PM)
For gaming, you won't feel the different, for multi-tasking, there is significant different, i7 2720qm is a very powerful CPU, but if you cannot fully utilize it, no point also.
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I do plan on getting a secondary monitor, and I usually listen to music and have 50 tabs open on firefox/chrome while I'm playing my games, along with msn, skype, steam and the likes.

I'm starting to consider the NP 8130 now though. I think the extra ~200 dollars is a worthwhile investment. It's not a desktop replacement right?
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post Jul 11 2011, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 11 2011, 07:09 PM)
well the difference between these core i7 CPUs are mostly on having a higher clock however they are with locked multipliers, plus the core ratio of each model is higher as the number says, like 2630QM core ratio is 26 and Core ratio of 2820QM is 28 , the highest clock is for Extrem editions with unlocked miltipliers, moreclock speed and having more Cache size (based on CPU model) will provide us a better multi tasking and speed when some heavy apps are fuctioning together.....thats the difference, i am personally recomendng 2820QM or 2920XM if u are working with some heavy apps such as 3D max, Auto-Cad and so on, will have a faster loading and action specially if laptop have a SSD
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So would you say the upgrade from the 2630QM is worth the money? It's quite a big addition.
QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 11 2011, 07:17 PM)
then dont forget to get some RAM also ! i mean dun buy with 4GB ! i have 12 GB ram however its useless cuz i close many things most of the time, but if u leave many thigs open and want to play game also, a good cpu plus enough ram might help you much, i am suggesting to u that u can get a SSD as well to load everything faster than usual
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I know, I'm probably getting 8gb. It's the default configuration if I end up getting the NP8130. I have 4gb right now on my desktop and I end up waiting quite often =/

An SSD I might get in the future, since Sager laptops are customizable thumbup.gif Right now I don't feel it's necessary though. At least not until I have the funds sweat.gif
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post Jul 12 2011, 06:14 AM

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Jul 11 2011, 08:08 PM)
in terms of working as engineer and if U do need it, i mean as i explained before having 2920XM even wont help that much to your FPS in games unless U jUst WaNnA HaVe It For The NaMe of EXTREME EDITION and Fun - for me if i have the funds i 'll get 990X ! like cyz the lable is awesome biggrin.gif biggrin.gif  ! haha...but it think it would WORTH if u prefer a heavvyy multi tasking...you might not understand the difference yourself between these range of 2630 to up but i would give a better loading and speed when there many apps  left open and running,-- now i have a core i7 970 six Core and sometimes i really can feel that the laptop is very nice ! sometimes i am converting a HD movie from camera while i am browsing, there is no lag over my laptop  - so if u dun have problem with your procket then i guess u can easily go with it and be happi wink.gif - 2720QM to up (2820 and 2920) are really great investments.
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yep once u got the funds a SSD would by really fun ! i can really feel how fast my np7282 is boot up and shitdown or run the apps which are installed in SSD, i was thinking to get for my third storage a 300GB SSD also...its a realy BooosSStt
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Mah pockets aren't that deep bro wink.gif

I think I'll be getting an i7 for sure, but I'm not sure I can fork out enough for the higher tiers. And if they consume even more power then portability will take another unwanted hit. I need to bring this around to class. I'm quite sure it's not too heavy so that's not a problem, which leaves battery life a delicate subject.

Also quick question, the NP8130 has Optimus enabled right?
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post Jul 12 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 12 2011, 12:51 PM)
No, NP8130 don't have optimus.
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That complicates things.

Is the NP5165 battery life worth the less powerful laptop you get?
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post Jul 12 2011, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 12 2011, 07:30 PM)
Why complicate?

To be frank, NP8130 (8 cell, no optimus) has similar battery life with NP5165 (6 cell, optimus).
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I guess if that is so, I'll get the NP8130. Thanks for answering my relentless questions thumbup.gif
QUOTE(jackytiao @ Jul 12 2011, 07:37 PM)
i have a question....2 gb ddr3 performance better or 1.5gb dd5?
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Are you talking about the graphics card VRAM?
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post Jul 15 2011, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(XOTICPC)
Sager NP8130 / Clevo P151HM1
- 3% Cash Discount, 8GB RAM Promotion & Price Match! Ask us about our Current Specials! We GUARANTEE we have the lowest price for the same configuration!
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- - 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM, 2.0-2.8GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- No Video Adapter
- ~ 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS)
- Standard Finish
- ~ 750GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)-
- ~ Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- No Floppy Drive
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- No Back Up Software
- None Standard--
- Intel® Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Xotic PC Gear
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I'm about to get this, anyone see anything wrong or anything I should improve that costs less than 100 dollars?
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post Jul 15 2011, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 15 2011, 12:13 AM)
Get the NTSC 95% color gamut screen if screen is important for you.
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Not really. It's already a matte screen, that's all that's important for me. TBH I would've chosen a smaller resolution if I could, for better performance.
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post Jul 16 2011, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Jul 16 2011, 12:15 AM)
Let's welcome forumers

jackytiao (NP8130)
k-nen (NP8130)
Truthhearts & Whatman (NP8170)
Kelvin (NP8150)

to become Sager owners!
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I'm just waiting for Monday to put in my wire transfer to XoticPC, so list me in for the NP8130.

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