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 Sager : Mobile Gaming @ Its Best v3, NP9130/9150/9170 with Ivy Bridge

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post Aug 8 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(jackytiao @ Aug 8 2011, 07:38 PM)
buy laptop from u free tutorial how to apply on the laptop....nice business bro!!! rclxms.gif
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Why I do this business is because I myself is a gaming enthusiast, I know what gamers are thinking about, Msia is very lack of custom high end laptops.

Yeah earn money is one of the reasons. But customer satisfaction always makes me happy especially those who post user/unboxing reviews.
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post Aug 9 2011, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Aug 8 2011, 11:59 PM)
Hi may I know what is NTSC 95% on the screens?

What benefits can i get from it? thanks.
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You will get 95% color gamut instead of 60%/72% on the stock screen.

Which means the color defined range is larger.
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post Aug 10 2011, 02:31 AM

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Hi guys,

Sager had announced NP8150-S1 featured with AMD Radeon 6990M, Bigfoot Wireless 1103, Blu-ray reader, 750gb and 16gb 1333MHz RAM, the total saving is about RM400 as the same configurations from ordinary NP8150.
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post Aug 10 2011, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Aug 10 2011, 12:31 PM)
8130 w/ 2630qm - 560m - 12gb 1333 - bigfoot wireless
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You have chosen the right model, but that could be better if you switch the upgrade cost on the ram to buy a 500gb hybrid 4gb ssd drive.
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post Aug 10 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Aug 10 2011, 07:51 PM)
Could you kindly explain how does the hybrid 4gb SSD works? smile.gif
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The 4gb ssd is not a ssd storage, it is a kind of flash memory which accelerates the read/write speed of the 500gb hdd storage. The performance of it is very close to real ssd if you don't do huge data transfer, price wise too.
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post Aug 11 2011, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Aug 10 2011, 11:12 PM)
It only accelerate read, no write and it only affect the file that you are usually use (learn your pattern) since the 4GB SSD act as a cache.
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Lee, this has enlighten me notworthy.gif

Yeah the 4gb NAND flash preface is sth like flash memory to store frequent used data. Therefore that should accelerate read more than write speed.

This was the source where I initially looked for. smile.gif

http://umlan.com/reviews/hardware/h129.html


Added on August 11, 2011, 2:20 am
QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 10 2011, 11:22 PM)
The hybrid is nowhere near SSD. It is as good as 10,000rpm HDD (aka WD Raptors).
SATA2 SSD is way ahead hybrid HDD. With SATA3 SSD, hybrid is way way way slower.

What is the upgrade after hybrid HDD? SSD.
What is the upgrade after SSD? SSD.
So, SSD is the ultimate choice for now if you want SPEED.

If you want speed, SSD should be the way.
If you want storage, HDD/Hybrid HDD should be the way.
If you want speed and storage, with no budget constraint, get a bigger SSD or 2xSSD in RAID0.
If you want speed and storage, with slight higher price than the hybrid HDD, get an affordable SSD (i.e. Vertex3 60GB) combo with normal HDD (via USB3.0 or ESATA or caddy case in your CDROM slot).
If you want speed and storage, with budget constraint, get Momentus XT or 7200rpm HDD.


Added on August 10, 2011, 11:24 pmhttp://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/803127-momentus-xt-vs-raptor-vs-ssd.html
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Bro, that might be true if comparing real ssd to hybrid drive but the XT drive is actually worth for price/GB if that's for light user who seldom do data transfer like I had mentioned. I myself as a user, I can feel the significant increase in the boot up speed comparing to 7200rpm HDD, if extreme performance is not a concern, hybrid drive is definitely a good choice.

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Added on August 11, 2011, 2:29 am
QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Aug 11 2011, 01:56 AM)
8130 w/ i7 2630qm

So you saying i get the 4gbx2 1600mhz and in future get another 4gbx2 1600mhz?

why do you say get 1600mhz over the 4gbx3 1333mhz..

clocking it to 1866 would be safe for such a machine not too sure the capability of the 8130 as i only used to OC desktops.. worried i mess my laptop up..
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Carbon,

NP8130 won't be able to use Intel XTU to overclock the RAM. To achieve 1600MHz, you must use Jedec complaint 1600MHz memory (HyperX 8G or Patriot RAM etc) to do it. You will be running on default clock but not overclocked.

You will hardly feel the real life difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz on a laptop. However, some users have claimed that they can achieve slightly lower temperature on using 1600MHz RAM. If you are going to run a lot of photoshop and autocad, 12gb 1333MHz is actually more useful than 8gb 1600MHz.

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post Aug 11 2011, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Aug 11 2011, 02:51 AM)
Okay besides the startup increase speed but performance for example loading games and documents is faster like WD raptor ? Or just start up speed

Hmm 1333 12GB vs 1600 8GB in gaming wise le ? Is there a significant difference let's say fps wise ?
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The 4gb ssd will constantly monitor the most frequently accessed data and stores it in its SSD-type flash memory and then optimizes itself for future need, in other word the ssd will recall the frequently accessed data more quickly. Although 4gb sounds not much, but it's sufficient to provide improvement in some scenarios.

I myself as a user, Win7 boot-up and shut down speeds are about 50~70% faster than 7200rpm HDD speed. The loading files/games speed increases significantly as well, but the loading file speed still loses to Raptor.

Like what above mentioned, if you are going to do a lot of unzip, data transfer, you better get a real ssd rather than this.


The 8gb ram is pretty enough for your gaming usage, there is little or no difference between 1600MHz and 1333MHz in term of gaming performance.

Also, NP8130 with i5-2410m can only achieve maximum 8gb 1333MHz RAM (4GB X 2), the two accessible slots are the one on the bottom of the laptop.

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QUOTE(carbonfibre @ Aug 11 2011, 03:47 AM)
But I will most likely be upgrading my proc to i7 2730qm.. So best choice for ram just get the 12gb right.. But will this ruin the dual channel thing ? 0.o

Hybrid the way to go..

This laptop is making think a few times on what to upgrade before ordering sleep.gif
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Yes 3x4GB is not dual channel. I have read some China websites, they claimed they can achieve dual channel with 3 sodimms, that's strange, need further evidence on these areas.

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post Aug 13 2011, 01:17 PM

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Carbon,

this picture is taken by my previous NP8130, resolution 1280 X 960.

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QUOTE(Devina_8 @ Aug 13 2011, 03:32 PM)
Yeah the quality of np7282's Camera is bewlo my expectations ! however i use my microsoft external camera for connecting skype and so on ! the camera Sucks Truly ! my M15X have a better one really, also i foudn out the quality of Mic through the low connections of net while using OoVoO specially is below the minimum quality !
Doest matter much since i got 8 MegaPixel external Camera !
lol im waiting to get my 6990M crossFireX ! but i havent order it....definitely next month
I've installed my 990X ! i dun feel much of difference with previouse 970 .... but i overclocked the cpu to 4GHz and the temps are still running good .... hehe ! no difference in index score also ! ..... i guess i switch back to 970 and use 990 on my new upcoming PC ....

Users of ATI be ready ! next week we have driver 11.8 Official Release, i guess it would have some increases on DX11 specially in Crysis 2 performances and other games .... .
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How many extreme PCs you got? LOL blink.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(jackytiao @ Aug 14 2011, 12:45 AM)
np8130 mic is quite sensitive....but sometimes my fren even can heard my room's fan noise when i was talking to him in skype..  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 16 2011, 07:53 AM)
i hate my gtx460m.

kinda useless LOL.
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Bro, gtx460m is considered a nice gaming card.


Added on August 16, 2011, 5:08 pm
QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Aug 16 2011, 07:46 AM)
Just return from no-apparent-reason ban island. biggrin.gif

AMD Radeon 6990M Crysis 2 on Sager NP8170 / Clevo P170HM

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Truly awesome~ rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(tofusteak @ Aug 16 2011, 09:40 PM)
Hi, I'm very interested in a Sager to replace my old desktop (need some mobility to work/play, though only within my house), just two things I'd like to ask:
(1) I've been following several threads on the notebookreview forums and many users have reported problems with the 95% gamut matte screens (seems to be affecting recently shipped units). Has anybody here had any problems? Also do the glossy screens work fine (stock & 95% gamut)?
(2) I'm not an incredibly serious gamer, but I'd like any new machine I buy to last several years (as long as possible, really) and still be able to play games without having to use the lowest possible settings -- is the GTX560M good enough for this purpose, or is it safer to go with the 6990M? The reason I ask this is I don't think I will ever upgrade the GPU after buying (though maybe get some more RAM and swap in an SDD much later)
Any advice would be much appreciated icon_question.gif
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1. What's the problem you saw? Stock screen is about 60% cg, NP8170 stock/ 3D screen is 72% color gamut. To be frank, stock screen is very enough for users who don't emphasize color gamut. But there is a difference btw both of the screens.

2. GTX560M can hardly maintain on medium to high setting within 3 years, 6990M should be no problem.

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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Aug 17 2011, 07:17 PM)
Hi peps,

I tested my Sager Np8170 and its GREATT in gaming Crysis 2 on HARDCORE setting really amazing! Smooth gaming !!  biggrin.gif

But in the other hand, the Sound System is whats concern me.. is it that good? Tested the sound, it can go loud and THX sound enable/disable, i can hear the difference but still not that great. Its like no Ommphhh in the sound the sub-woffer is not that woffing. I can hear the crystal clear sound adjustment by THX pro studio but sound is still not that good.
I wonder is it my hearing cause my first lappy is Acer 6935G with Tuba subwoffer by Dolby Digital and it sound great and my home desktop i use Sound Blaster X-Fi card and this sound damn great. Then THX, sound so ummm no great. Even i use my headphone with gold coat jack, it still doesn't sound that good.
Should i get a sound blaster X-Fi Go for lappy?
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Yes the sound card Sager uses is on-board one, it is not the best but fair enough for most users. Maybe you should buy an external sound card for greater sound quality?

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QUOTE(terence1991 @ Aug 18 2011, 01:26 AM)
hi guyz, its been a while since im in the IT world, but i decided to get one new laptop. currently in california, US. and planning to get a sager NP5175 laptop. however there is this 2 things that are bothering me.

1) how much i can get it in malaysia? its 872 USD here for the non-custom one.

http://www.powernotebooks.com/Sager-NP5175...s-sys-4028.html

wondering if its cheaper here or back in kl.

2) if rosak, siapa boleh baiki? lol. i live in cheras so any specialist in dealing with sager notebooks like lowyat or somewhere in kl?

Help is much appreciated. thanks in advance!
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Hi,

1. the purchase price is cheaper if you can buy directly from Sager.

Although you can save on shipping cost, you will be charged 9.75% California Sales tax by Sager/ US resellers. You have to do some calculations where to buy is cheaper and more convenient smile.gif


2. We do the repair job co-operating with Sager. If you want to know more details you can contact me directly.

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Aug 19 2011, 09:25 AM)
.:Tutorial - Disassemble the LCD Panel Cover:.

When I was being banned from Lowyat after report on someone posting the pronz thread in Kopitiam, I use the available time to repaint the LCD panel cover and make this tutorial of how to disassemble the cover.

Find the four small rubber padding on the panel cover.  Use flat tip screwdriver to take it out so it can show the screws. Unscrew all the screws.
(The cover just done the sanding process)
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Use toothpick or flat tip screwdriver, slip in-between the panel and push the panel towards you until it snaps. Use the toothpick (or pen cap) to snap the rest. Now comes on the bottom panel. Push the bottom part downwards and pull it towards you.
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The cover now fully disassemble from the laptop (the one on the keyboard). Once you done doing something on the cover (repaint/sticker/etc), just put it back and make sure the entire cover were properly locked before you screw it back and put the padding. You can replace the old tape and use double-sided tape to stick the rubber padding back to it's place.
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This is final result after repaint the LCD panel cover. It's not as glossy and as clean as the original one, but I feel satisfied with a sanding-feel.
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The area that I accidently use thinner to get rid of the sticky substance which peel off the original paint. You can see the area is not even.
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Good job dude rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 20 2011, 03:42 PM)
Guys.. My laptop is showing some weird signal when playing dota. Lol.

Fixed fps is 64 but it dropped to 36 whenever i cast ES skill in dota.

I wonder what is happening? Driver issue?
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Are you playing online?

I think this is hardware problems, you can download GPU-Z and monitor what's the problem.

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Aug 21 2011, 08:12 PM)
tempted to get NP8130, izzit a good choice for gaming hmm.gif compare this to xps 15, np8130 spec is so much higher wink.gif
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NP8150, NP8170 or even NP7280 are better choices in term of gaming,

but if you are not a hard core, NP8130 is pretty enough already.
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QUOTE(silverchain @ Aug 21 2011, 09:19 PM)
what's the main difference between np8130 and np8150 ya? Their spec kinda similar? but price vary so much
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NP8130 is built by plastic, NP8150 is built by hard rubber, NP8170 is built by aluminium.

NP8150 uses 180W power brick, NP8130 uses 120W power brick, therefore NP8150 can support extreme gaming GPU like 6990M, GTX485M and GTX580M.

I have replied your pm, please check your inbox.
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 21 2011, 10:38 PM)
this is very weird ...yesterday i tried again...no lag edi hahahahahhahahaa


Added on August 21, 2011, 10:40 pm
its okay already...cause i tried again.

i purposely start the game and enable the WTF mode and selected es , spammed its skill and no lags.
i may sound childish but...i jz wanna test lool.
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lol, then it is software issue, not driver or hardware. Or maybe dust inside your laptop.

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