I think to get one dishwasher for my new house, but it seems like dishwasher is not popular in Malaysia....

does anyone has dishwasher at home? is it helpful and worth to get one?

Mind to share your experience with dishwasher?

yeah, not very popular in Malaysia. I had 1 when i study in Australia. We are so lazy, after eating just rinse and put in the dish washer. When it is full, we just turn it on and leave the plates and cups in the dishwasher.

Same thing for oven and microwave. Just buy pizza, chicken, fish and chip from supermarket and put it inside the oven, no nd to cook HAHA.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: May 16 2011, 10:37 PM

I am too lazy to wash the dish too , therefore looking for a dishwasher

can the dishwasher wash pot and frying pan too? and I heard ppl said it need to take 1 hour to wash each time, is tat true?

do you sell dishwasher?

not sure..never used d/washer be4...hehehe

i don sell but we plan to get it for our future house. Yeah, need quite some time for cleaning. You need to rinse it first then only put in the dishwasher.

http://www.electrolux.com.my/node37.aspx?categoryid=15664

I use it everyday..its the best. Malaysia is the best place to use dishwasher as water is not expensive like some part of the world. But the powder or liquid is expensive. Cant use normal soap/detergent

It is not popular in Malaysia because here most of us have mobile dish washer called maids!
I decided not to use dish washer because we dont cook as much. If you cook daily and have big family, dishwasher is good. But then if you have big family, chances are you have a maid ...

for me dishwasher is not environment friendly..
coz use sooo much water.
i more prefer hand wash

I used dishwasher when studying in US last year. I think not suitable in Malaysia coz here you eat a lot oily stuff & need to rinse first. Might as well just wash it off rather than transferring to dishwasher after that, IMO. If you stay 1-2 person & use only few plates & cutlery, then u need to wait until it's full so you dont waste water & the dishwasher detergent & electricity. In my experience, i use until all my plate & cup finished then only start the washing, by that time, no plate to use (coz i only stayed 2 persons). But the best part is you can turn it on & let it wash & u can go out... Come back all plates & cups clean

But I noticed not easy to find the dishwasher detergent here... maybe that is another thing u might need to think about.

I use it everyday. Worth the investment. Been using it for 7 years now, no breakdown. I have a Siemens, same as Bosch just rebadged. It uses very little water, between 10-20 litre. I keep getting questions from friends such as clean or not? Well, if you can hand wash dishes with near boiling water, go ahead. It also steams the dishes before the cycle ends.

Only problem is, most kitchen in Malaysia is not built for one. I have a built it one, the furniture maker is doing it for the first time although he has decades of experience. I did the plumbing myself and I had a drainage part that I got from Germany while I was there. You can get a similar drainage part from IKEA these days.

I also have a Siemens washer, I called BSH (Bosch-Siemens Holdings) to service it and they come to my place which is quite remote (near KLIA). So I have confidence of them servicing the dishwasher if required.

I got a Fisher&Paykel drawer dishwasher. It is pretty pricey but I have a small family so the smaller size suits us more.

Where can we get those auto dishwasher powder in KL? Cheers

yeah, where to buy dishwasher detergent or salt?

Hi, maybe can try the giant, jj etc. I finally got my at giant ~4kg for RM25, USA product

wow, good info...thanks bro.

Only places like Cold Storage and big hardware store (ACE hardware) carries it. I got mine from Cold Storage (u can try Cascade brand or Finish brand).

Local hypermart dont carry them (Cascade/Finish).

This post has been edited by NeedsAHome: Oct 30 2012, 03:36 PM

I got my power x 3.6kg from giant in k. Terengganu as where i reside for only rm 25. They also have the finish but too expensive for 1kg at Rm25. They got yhe finish rinse aid too.

carrefour also carries detergent, rinsing agent and salt. even carrefour own brand (its good btw)

the major supermarkets do carry the dishwasher detergent so no problem to get them really..
have used a dishwasher for 8 years - mine is a borsch and i believe this is the best brand..tried using electrolux recently as its cheaper but not as good as borsch..

why dishwasher - very good if you have babies and small kids as the hot water will sterilize everything for one, secondly, great if you hate doing dishes..
so very convenient esp after dinner, lazy lah to have to do dishes..

yes bosch is pretty great. siemens too - i believe it's essentially the same product under the hood. basically all the european brands gave me good experience and yes not a hassle to get the detergent and stuff (anymore). it used to be harder but they are getting more and more widely available. sadly the price still is high.

Dishwashers, actually saves water. Electricity usage is another matter. For the 12-15l used by a dish washer for the a full load, unless you installed the handy foot activated tapmaster (www.tapmasterinc.ca/residential), water consumption is on average 6 times more. The only alternative is to have a bowl sink filled with water. One with soap and one without. Wash grime off one bowl. Rinse in the other. This is Euro/Oz style manual dishwashing.

The only thing that's be aware of is placement and plumbing. The extra piping for inlet and the plumibing for outlet. As far as I know, Ikea Atlant bowl drains has dishwasher/front-loader washing machine drain spigot that allows water to drain out from the sink. Teka sinks also has them. I would suppose some of the Euro sinks will come with dishwasher/washing machine spigot to allow water to drain.

Also some models like Teka or German made Bosch uses Euro type plug. So need to change to British type 3-pin or use one of those Wonpro type adapters.

I nearly installed it once in condo. Planned the kitchen deliberately with a dishwasher in mind. Had contractor drill 2 holes on the left of the sink cabinet frame to allow for inlet/outlet and electrical socket located under sink drain (a 13A plug outlet from study was co-incidentally located directly behind the left-bottom of the sink cabinet). Cabinet has to be of the height that can take a stand-alone dishwasher ie about 85-86cm assuming that their top cannot be removed (81-82cm if possible).

Due to not knowing where to find a drain spigot, I was planning to install a Kleenguard or Insinkerator underneath the sink which has a dishwasher outlet adaptor built-in. Expensive yes but some things to think through without hacking too much in condos. Now at least I know where to look. Ikea Atlant trap/water trap (used to be RM55 way back) for all their sinks comes with two spigots so that you can have dishwasher and washing machine on either side of the sink. No need to get Ikea sink, just make sure the sink outlet is of the same diameter (90mm) so planning is involved. See image 10 of the Atlant instruction http://www.ikeafans.com/forums/ikea-instru...-annotated.html.

Disclaimer: it may not fit all sinks even though there's a Atlant double bowl trap. Chances are if adding a dishwasher is an after thought, it's better off near next to the washing machine outside in the drying area or you have decided to renovate the kitchen.

Ideally, if the kitchen is galley style like in a train ie 2 straight 'I's, the washing side can be higher from the cooking side (lower) opposite. Too high cabinetry does not suit most of us cos wok would be too high.

I still bought a Teka LP800 dishwasher. Moving to landed and planning the kitchen the same way, I had an 13A outlet brought behind the dishwasher. Plumbing was just a hack to have the outlet 40cm above the floor behind the dishwasher and a T brach off from the cold supply of the sink running out behind it as a washing machine/bidet type bib.

One more thing, when opening the dishwasher after drying is completed, some steam will come out. To prevent it from ruining the underside of you cabinetry, buy one of those Japanese rigid alumimum foil heat conserver made for hobs. Keep the magnet for something else but place that over the dishwasher top. It should fit like judge's wig. Once you open just after, pull it out. It will guide the steam away from the underside of the cabinet and into the open air. Just my 2sen.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Nov 7 2012, 05:18 PM

If use dishwasher, the kitchen cabinet will be higher than the usual height?

Ya, for our use, it's mostly higher than usual. Usually free standing dishwashers are 85-86cm with top cover. Some can have it removed that it becomes 81-82cm. Integrated could be up to 81-82 in height. The height I left my sink area is 86cm so it can generally fit any dishwasher with their top intact.

This problem may not apply for those with wet and dry kitchens but rather for us who have them both integrated.

In a single wet/dry kitchen, the cooking and food preparation side is lower which is only possible in a galley style (2 parallel 'I' like in a train).

For C, G and U shaped layouts, segregation is needed with a break in height of the counter tops for washing zone from ccoking and food prepration zones. This can easily be achieved with artificial stone tops. If using concrete/tiles, marble stone, mdf board, a fridge or storage cabinet can establish a break between zones where permissible.

For an L shaped kitchen, as long as the cooking zone is on the separate L leg segment (very far away) from the washing zone, the only choice is to use aritificial stone to drop the height for cooking. Otherwise, countertop height is uniform throughout which may not suit some of us since the wok sit higher. Chopping onion and garlic would be too high for comfort also.

For existing kitchen, the next best place for the dishwasher is beside the washing machine usually outside if space allows.

For apartments with limited balcony space, some designed their kitchen to have dishwasher and washing machine on either side of the sink. The only solution I discovered without investing in an Insinkerator/Kleengard is either an Ikea Atlant sink trap or a Teka sink which usually includes a trap which has a dishwasher adapter. This solves the waste outlet issue. Tee off from the cold supply is also minor work. The only challenge is locating the 13A. So this one must be thought out from the beginning.

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Added on November 9, 2012, 2:58 pmThis site has a photo of how installation is done.
Flickrhivemind on Domjso sinks with dishwasher installed

Here's how to DIY guide your plumber and kitchen installer if renovating.

Usage in combi with a waste disposer like Insinkerator or Kleenguard. Some maintain that an airgap here and here and here is needed in combination with dishwasher use.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Nov 9 2012, 03:12 PM

first time using the dishwasher..is it true that we do not have to use the salt for hard water because our water pressure is not too high?

My Elba dishwasher in my Ikea cabinet. Bought it for rm1200 during a warehouse sale almoat 5 years ago. Love it to bits.

DSC_0077 by mama23beas, on Flickr

This post has been edited by rfm: Nov 9 2013, 07:54 PM

Yes I've heard that we don't need to use salt is because our water type is not hard type.

Lovely kitchen you have there. May I know what's the height of your kitchen cabinet and ceiling?

The height of base cabinet is 90cm (without the counter top), I use the 16cm capita legs. Ikea has another size for legs which is 11cm. I don't think my dishwasher will fit into into the cabinets if i use these legs.

The wall cabinet is 230cm from the floor. The ceiling height is 3m. Hope this helps.

I never bother about type of water but we've been using salt. We have satisfactory result most of the time. And to me finish is the best band so far.

I like your high ceiling and your kitchen setup. May consider a dish washer for future unit. Thanks

Does anyone know of any built in dishwasher makes available in Msia? Any free standing dishwashers that come with removable top to reduce the height? I am interested with Electrolux ESF6210 LOW but it has a height of 850 mm which will not fit into 820 mm space I got under my kitchen counter.

yes, you can look for Bosch built-in dishwasher that only requires the height of your modular cabinet. however is not a friendly price. it costs almost twice as expensive compare to those free standings ones. but it's pretty practical as you do not need to remove your cabinet or kitchen top.

Can anyone recommend any good shops to look for dishwashers?

I saw electrolux + samsung brand in Best@ONe U today , i also looking for dishwasher not a build in type.

Plan to put it beside my wet stoke for washing purpose.

any idea how much dish washer detergent / powder?

buy dishwasher tablet, brand either cascade or finish..quite pricey i think

Do you agree that new dishwasher models required 2 hours, whereas older models only require 20mins to 1 hour max to finish wash cycle?

unsused Beko free standing dish washer for sale if u interested

what kind of soap we need for dishwasher machine?
Salt, and Soap? that's it? I saw someone put 3 stuff inside but I can't remember what is that.

Dishwasher tablets or powder
Rinse aid liquid
Salt is not required. Set the water hardness scale to the minimum. Our water here is soft.
Try Henkel's Somat tablet and rinse aid.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Dec 12 2016, 03:06 PM

OKOK!

OK, I just bought Bosch sms63l02ea for about Rm2.6K+
Will ship after CNY. Does anyone know the inlet water diameter and the outlet water diameter?

This post has been edited by sovietmah: Jan 25 2017, 02:13 PM

Anyone using bosch dishwasher?
How good is it cleaning pan and periuk?

Hello, Everyone. I am a newcomer... I was currently bought a Bosch Dishwasher. The model is SMS63L08EA, RM2913 (bought at best denki). Does anyone use this model as well? the best denki promoter no need to put the special salt... At first, i was so confusing after reading the manual. I personally think that they should customize the manual for every country.

We are on our 2nd Bosch dishwasher, the first one was 12 years old and couldn't get parts for it.

2nd bought 2nd hand.

To answer your question, it isn't good with pots and pans.

Bosch dishwashers are global products, they aren't Malaysia specific products. Therefore manuals are the same all over the world.

In Malaysia we don't have hard water issues, therefore you don't need the dishwasher salt which acts as a water softener.

If you really insist on using the salt, just use the 3-in-1 tablet, otherwise you can get them from BIG or Jaya Grocer.

Just bought my first dishwasher Bosch Series 8. Waiting to be shipped and install.
https://www.bosch-home.com.my/product-list/SMS88TW02E

Siemens is Bosch in malaysia?

Since Sunway Cold Storage branch closed down, I am having problem to look for Cascade dishwasher powder. Any idea where can i get it?

Thinking to get this Xiaomi Viomi Dishwasher, anybody have this model installed at home?



https://www.lazada.com.my/products/xiaomi-v...idZZaz&search=1

I would have gone for the typical Bosch brand but it's too tall for my existing kitchen cabinet. Want to give this one a try.

Reputable dish washer is important. Won’t go with brand like xiaomi

the xiaomi dishwasher is like an oven size (smaller than regular dishwasher), so if spoil u cant get a regular dishwasher to fit in the hole.

Price is cheap but no after sales service and service center.

i buy finish from lazada, washing quality ok or may b my dish washer is too good


currently using this, not available in malaysia yet



next month will b installing an integrated dishwasher from foster. Why i choose this because most of the dishwashers look just like a washing machine (ugly), while foster fully integrated dishwasher looks exactly like my cabinet design and price is affordable. A bosch fully integrated dishwasher in malaysia cost RM 6k+ while foster is only half the price and with 3 years warranty and made in italy

Ofcoz bosch would have some extra features but for half the price, i am happy with foster

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 9 2019, 09:28 AM

Used indesit dishwasher until the pump Kong so it will be flooding inside. Then got a Fagor for around rm1700, showroom display unit from HLK warehouse sales je coz poorfag but it was great. Salt just use normal coarse salt to fill up the tub (it worked well for the previous indesit machine).

Beko vs Bosch?

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How's the water usage like for this one?

Water isn’t so expensive in Msia, we need to worry more on the electricity, no? But I checked on Bosch, only around rm0.35 per wash? Really?

Beko is turkish, Bosch is german. If you read random european based forum, definitely they would suggest Bosch over Beko. Bosch is poor man’s gaggenau

After extensive research, i bought hood, hob, microwave oven and convection oven from Bosch for my kitchen. No money for dishwasher though.

Thanks. Funny to see Beko advertises it manufactured in “Europe”... since when Turkey is part of Europe already?

Turkey is half asia half europe (can’t remember the exact %, but i think 90% asia 10% europe). So manufacture in europe is about right

And from google beko also have factory in Russia & Romania which is definitely europe.

If you’re considering beko, you might as well take a look at other european brand like brandt, teka, electrolux and etc. All in similar price range.

I’m eyeing on Bosch, but not sure which series yet. Which is recommended? Budget around rm3k and most of them are around that range

For bosch i would recommend you to go to their showroom in Publika and their staff will explain to you in details pros and cons of each model. They are very knowledgable on their products unlike salesperson in electrical shop. And yeah plenty of model to choose from with 3k budget.

I know, but I still wanted to gauge how much approximately. But Rm0.35 per wash is not bad at all

Ya. That’s based on their specification. The average use of power is 1kwh, so roughly rm0.28 (if you are at second tier, first tier even cheaper)

Forgot. The washing powder can be a little expensive. But I guess around rm1 per wash or less

SMS46GW01P vs SMS50E82EU Bosch dishwasher what are the difference? Can’t find much in their website. Seem like really need to go to publika.

I am using FOSTER dishwasher in my showroom. As we have events occasionally and will need to wash a lot of dishes, i really need a dishwasher.

Since it is a showroom, i wish to have something that can blend in with my showroom and look nice (modern). Also it has to be durable, since it comes with 3 years warranty and made in italy, i choose FOSTER. Here is my review for it. If wanna to know more and test it, can dropby my showroom, it is a working unit not a regular display only



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 18 2020, 11:22 AM

Bosch authorised dealer is not nice to deal with. Very pushy. L

The one in publika? Who served you?

Last time i went there i didn’t notice the pushiness, maybe because i went there with intention to bargain best price not to compare brands.

This post has been edited by blanket84: Dec 25 2019, 04:40 PM

Simon. The same person in charge of their online store in Lazada.

yes u can put pots and frying pan. Yes cleaning is 1 to 2 hours depending on which mode u use.

However, sticky food on pots and pans cant be removed. my Rule of thumb, anything that cant dissolve with hot water and require scrubbing, dont put in dishwasher.

Example, porridge or meat sticking on the pan

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jan 9 2020, 02:30 PM

Proper placement of dishes, cups, cutlery and utensils are crucial. Cutlery especially need to be spaced out. The cutlery basket caddy without the space guide grille needs careful distribution such that forks and spoons don't clump together preventing reach of detergent and water.

In the past, it is true that dishwashers don't wash out stains much less stubborn stains very well for a very simple reason...the hot water is not hot enough. Today, hard stubborn stains can be removed even if left overnight if the dishwasher's intensive wash program temperature is at least 70°C. Of course, it's better to scrape off the excess.

When getting a dishwasher, ensure its highest temp meets the above criteria for the intensive wash program. Anything less leaves the dishwasher wanting in its purpose.

The other thing is the dishwasher powder/tablets and rinsing aid liquid. Some have it combined in one tablet. Commonly it's separately wash tablet and rinse aid liquid. Try different brands. So far, Henkel's Somat works very well.

As with washing machines or hot water storage heaters, filter out sediments at point of entry down to no larger than 1 micron to ensure sediments don't clog the water intake inlet which has a sediment screen like front load washing machines. Otherwise, excess sediments might play havoc with the spray pattern.

This post has been edited by halcyon27: Jan 8 2020, 10:31 AM

Hello,i am new to the forum and read through the topic on dishwashers....Yes... Surprisingly in Malaysia the usage is very limited...i have a fairly new dishwasher from a German brand called Brandt. It's performance is awesome just like Bosch as i have used it in the past.
Unfortunately I am selling it off as i am shifting from KL and it's hard to find a buyer.
Appreciate if anyone from this forum is interested to buy mine which is less than a year old .

May I know which model and how much you are willing to let go?

a customer asked me whether Foster Dishwasher is able to handle asian food? worried that the machine from italy is not suitable for asian use. So, rather than explaining, i recorded this video to test. curry, soya sauce and etc etc baked in the oven to dry, then cool down and only put in dishwasher.

Here is my honest test result, if you have any request you would like me to test and show u, u may PM me, i will try my best to share accurate info and video. Since i m using it, i can demo and explain better


This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 18 2020, 11:27 AM

Nice demo bro.

Italian pasta also oily oily, so if the machine from Italy, sure can work
Coz the soap cycle and rinse cycle is done at warm/hot temperature (depending on cycle setting) it will of course clean better than any hand wash, hand cannot tahan boiling temperatures

So conclusion dishwasher is gooding.

thanks all thanks to forumers give feedback, then i try my best to record video to show the products better

When buying a dishwasher, do consider the size and shape of the things u wanna wash in it. Some dishwashers are not asian friendly. As we do use bowls, some dishwashers only target to wash plates, making it hard to fit big bowls in the racks. Foster Dishwasher do not have this issue, i believe it is suitable for malaysia market.

There is a new type of dishwasher in town by FOTILE
SINK + DISHWASHER 3 in 1


This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 2 2020, 07:38 AM

just saw this today



interesting concept. wonder why other brands didn't came out with it

whats the RRP btw?

saw it in shop or expo? haha most shops do not display it yet except me, RRP rm 5899 offer price will b lower

i am using at home as well, here is my demo

I saw the demo unit of this dishwasher though if I remember correctly the sink was on the right side of the dishwasher.

I was tempted to get one but opted to get a Bosch fully integrated as it only occupies a kitchen cabinet where this Fotile occupies both a cabinet and the counter.

Useful for a small family that washes after every meal but not so much for me that I prefer to wash just once per day.

Went and got the compact Panasonic Dishwasher today.
Fits on my kitchen counter top and without no need for plumb8ng mods. Looking forward to washing adventures.

Where to buy this? And what is the best price? Really interesred to get one.

this sinkdishwasher is by FOTILE, so u can get it from any fotile dealers but ofcoz u wan a good deal can get from me

How is it, good use?

Looking to get a dishwasher this 11.11 sales but probably couldn't make it in time as haven't decide which...

So far, so good. Not very big but sufficient for a 3 or 4 person household.

Cool. For 3-4 people is 1 meal 1 load of wash?

Pots and pans OK to fit in as well? Saw that in the picture on Lazada.

i only wash plates, bowls, cups and cutlery inside.
japanese standard size crockery is on the small side but basic cheap ikea <200cc cups, bowls and plates that are dishwasher safe are ok.
deep and XL soup bowls will fit but not that many.
have not and do not expect to wash pots and pans inside the thing.
whatever i washed, they all come clean except for some cutlery.
i do presoak the dishes so they have no hard stains.
i used the Finish powder.

This is very helpful! Thanks for sharing your experience! 👍

We bought a Bosch dishwasher model SMS63L02EA on 2 April 2018. It experienced faulty operation in March 2020 and was repaired under warranty. Now it again experience faulty operation (error code E14) hardly one year after the repair. Since the warranty period has ended, the BOSCH authorized service provider quoted us as below:

"The bosch dish washer repair cost is RM950.00 to change
1pc main board
1pc drain pump assy"

I feel this is too expensive and the question arise as to whether it is worth to repair it this time. What if it become faulty again after a few months requiring another hefty repair bill?
We trusted Bosch product which is a German brand but hardly 3 years after our purchase of the dishwasher, we are faced with this dilemma.

The dishwasher was finally repaired and we paid the cost of around RM800/- to the service provider.

I complained to the Bosch customer service to a guy by the name of Neil, that this is due to manufacturing fault and requested for discount fort he parts. He said he will refer my case to the management for further decision.

We have yet to hear from Bosch.

This is the first time we bought a dishwasher. We regretted buying the Bosch dishwasher.

Hmm drain pump fault also.
Same as what happened to our recond indesit but we used it for about 7 years until the drain pump kong. Cost 1300 in the year 2000's. No spare parts available since very old dinosaur model. Paintwork became rusty over the years. Indesit local SC handled by Cornell (Pensonic)

Then we got a Fagor dishwasher display set, from HLK warehouse clearance, discounted a bit due to dings in the panel, also another caveat emptor purchase (since Fagor filed for bankruptcy and got absorbed by CNA Group after that macam no news) for around 1700. So far this machine still operating fine

Somehow dishwasher locally tend to have rather poor support esp for non mainstream brands, so for me I just adopt the "buy cheap and use until it died" theory.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 19 2021, 01:20 PM

hi guys, is it possible to install a built in dishwasher in a condo?
or only can use tabletop dishwasher?

no problem to have it

Noprob.. but (somewhere near the machine location) you will need water inlet and drain outlet.