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 ~**Proton CPS TribeĀ® V10**~, No more bulk after UR bar?

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post Jun 8 2011, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 8 2011, 02:23 PM)
opis xle bkak fb...link apa tu? unsure.gif
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post Jun 8 2011, 02:35 PM

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ooo cps tribe...saya malu la cps saya stendet...campro je x stendet... cry.gif
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post Jun 12 2011, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jun 12 2011, 12:33 PM)
Have you guy noticed a radio ads about petronas primax 95 xtra where a guy (claimed to be a mechanical engineer) said before using this fuel, his car doing 90km/h with 2.1k rpm and after using this fuel, the rpm is lower when doing the same speed (?)... brought shame to mechanical engineer only... doh.gif
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wahkahkahkah i tot oni me felt the ad sounds weird... doh.gif

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post Jun 13 2011, 07:12 PM

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ivtec? never lose in terms of pickup with i vtec before...if he go for maximum speed then i kena la...but from start until 170km/h i usually just play around with them more than 175 i will leave them alone because i know max i could go is 180 oni...my ball so soft one...hahahahah...eh this one campro stendet not my ejora cps...ejora i oni push until 140 then my mom would start "hey lajunya ko bawak nak pegi mana ni..." tongue.gif

but vtec besar i always kena la...
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post Jun 13 2011, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jun 13 2011, 08:55 PM)
which ivtec u talking? As in siti, civic or accord?

Vtec besar tebo pon leh cicir..

Just asking. What happen if cps 1.6 use campro 1.3 gearbox?
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pick one... wub.gif anyway i'm not the type who looks for trouble la just sometime cruising along the hiway suddenly got some owner think his ride is godlike can zigzag here n there that's when i engage my heavy foot...but if the car in front started driving like crazy overtaking left lane here n there because irritated they can't smoke a campro on straight road then i'll just let them be la...dont wanna get involve in some stupid chase and end up eating the divider ROFL laugh.gif

campro 1.3 got different ratio ka? why this is like the 2nd person telling me but if i'm not mistaken the ratio for 1.3 is the same as 1.6...if ure comparing normal campro with cps oso with exora then i can confirm it is different...normal campro 4.0...cps 4.3...exora 4.6...waja cps not sure tho but must be 4.3 as well unless stated otherwise sweat.gif

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post Jun 13 2011, 10:18 PM

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really? any neo 1.3 user can check the manual booklet?

in my knowledge proton only comes out with the shortest ratio for exora because the need to gain better respond for its heavy body...

well everyday we learn something new right... laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 10:24 PM

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if no wind then how tree shaking wahahahahahhaha laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Jun 13 2011, 10:30 PM)
There's someone under the tree shaking it. whistling.gif
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post Jun 14 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 14 2011, 10:23 AM)
final drive for satria neo 1.3 is shorter than the 1.6

satria neo 1.3 - 4.3xxx
satria neo 1.6 - 4.054
satria neo CPS 1.6 - 4.3xx too (3rd & 4th gear ratio is different tho)

so i believe (my believe, someone will know better) the blm is using a FD of 4.3xxx, same with the exora...

satria neo R3 gearbox ratio and FD, still hearsay, some say exora gearbox, some say blm, some say custom ratio...
no confirmation yet...

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QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Jun 14 2011, 10:49 AM)
To be exact, all CPS engine use same ratio but with same and different FD respectively..
CPS GB Ratio:
1st Gear = 3.583
2nd Gear = 1.947
3rd Gear = 1.379
4th Gear = 1.030
5th Gear = 0.767

Final drive:
Neo, Gen2, Waja = 4.312
Exora = 4.625

though neo, gen2 and waja have same ratio and FD, the accelaration and speed at certain RPM slightly varies due to different size of tire thus give different rolling radius..
Stock tyre size:
Neo = 195/50R16
Gen2 = 195/55R15
Waja = 195/60R15

Not to say exora with fat 195/65R15 tyre can compensate those 4.625 FD and give almost the same speed at certain RPM with the rest CPS model.. icon_rolleyes.gif

Btw, gen2 campro 1.6 use 4.052 FD with same ratio for 1st and 2nd gear but different 3rd, 4th and 5th gear which are:-
3rd Gear = 1.343
4th Gear = 0.976
5th Gear = 0.804

i believe, Neo 1.6 and waja campro use same ratio and FD with gen2 campro when consider the same patern with CPS line up and Neo 1.3 use same ratio but bigger FD 4.3xx to compensate the underpower from 1.3 Liter heart hmm.gif
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 14 2011, 11:02 AM)
There is a reason why they put top speed for Neo R3 at 205km/h only
FD is damn short for acceleration
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seriously thanx a lot guys...i really dunno about this as my only compilation of gb ratios are for mivec, campro std, campro cps n exora... as below:

MIVEC CAMPRO CPS EXORA
1 3.071 3.583 3.583 3.583
2 1.947 1.947 1.947 1.947
3 1.379 1.343 1.379 1.379
4 1.030 0.976 1.030 1.030
5 0.820 0.804 0.767 0.767
FD 4.625 4.052 4.312 4.625

so what pedanglaut mention is actually the same with my list...just that for neo 1.3 (maybe gen2 1.3 manual as well) i dont have the ratio for it...

KC...i can confirm on exora ratios n fd as i'm an owner and the manual booklet is with me...

if u ask me i would prefer a combination of mivec 1-2 gear ratios paired with cps 3-4-5 ratios and exora fd... thumbup.gif

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post Jun 14 2011, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 14 2011, 04:08 PM)
actually comparing the ratios that shazmn posted...

for the 1.6 CPS... id put in the exora gearbox... and thats it. no swapping

1.6 dont really have the torque to pull long ratios so u compensate that with shoter gear ratios... so the short ratio of the 1st gear and paired with the high FD should be able to properly push ur engine forward... the high fd paired with the rest of the ratios should also be good to continue pushing ur engine forward...

then of course theres the low 5th gear which would make long distance cruising more acceptable.

gotta say... the proton engineers knew wat they were doing with the exora gearbox when the put the car together...especially considering the weight of the car and usage. they made the gearbox so that the car can actually move properly and yet not suffer during long distances
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Added on June 14, 2011, 4:15 pm
QUOTE(pedanglaut @ Jun 14 2011, 03:32 PM)
This quite simple actually..just dump in Exora gearbox and change just 1st gear ratio to Mivec..done isit brows.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yes it could be simple but to own an exora gb n a mivec gb the price is a killer...better go for mivec lsd gb n just forget about the ratios on 3-4-5 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Jun 14 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 14 2011, 04:52 PM)
meh... just go for the exora gearbox and get the LSD from dori dori. kow tim.

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exora 1st gear finish too fast...if in sprint test sometime u might accidentally hit the cut off point...especially if the starting grid is a bit slanted thus the need for mivec 1-2 ratio...

lsd for build in mivec is a whole lot better than dori's...a custom made one can't easily beat the original ones bro n if u study the structure for the crown itself u can see the difference...custom made lsd is heavier to drive compared to ready made...u need to launch at higher rpm or not ur machine wont respond as u wish...

furthermore, i've got my own phantom grip...why do i need Dori's LSD? tongue.gif

QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 14 2011, 06:13 PM)
1.3 neo ratio is as below..

1.3 (S4PE)
5 M/T:
1st : 3.583
2nd : 1.947
3rd : 1.343
4th : 0.976
5th : 0.804
Reverse : 3.416
Final Drive : 4.333
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thanx KC...now got more addition on the ratios... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 14 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(kobe10 @ Jun 14 2011, 10:35 PM)
Mean we can actually buy Mivec LSD gearbox and custom it to our CPS? How much will it cost?
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if u want better performance n still wanna tapau an ivtec (seriously dude ivtec?) better just get the whole gb la...it is pnp to our campro/cps engine...the cost for lsd gb slightly around 2.5-3k...if u wanna buy just the lsd maybe around 1.5k...

QUOTE(shinjite @ Jun 14 2011, 10:41 PM)
My gawd, Neo CPS R3 basically has no gear ratios in their manual sweat.gif
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post Jun 14 2011, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 14 2011, 10:50 PM)
their excuse why the ratio is not in?

either
- they themselves tak tau
or
- "trade secret"

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lol..usually trade secret la...normal la r3 strategy laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2011, 11:31 PM

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opsss my bad...i talk based on experience on sprint test ive done couple times before and i realize i drive a slow campro... cry.gif

different ppl might have different opinion anyway..

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post Jun 26 2011, 05:11 PM

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as long as can support all accessory then can use la...but energizer battery kenot
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post Jun 26 2011, 09:09 PM

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even gen2 proton give din45r...aftermarket purchase oni buy din55...but some lucky folks oem battery can last 4 years that one i respect la...
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post Jun 30 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Dewre @ Jun 30 2011, 08:59 AM)
5 digits eh?

must be to maintain all the lemak in that tempang's body lulz
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post Nov 1 2011, 09:30 AM

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single? rugi rugi rugi
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post Nov 10 2011, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 10 2011, 12:59 AM)
Bro, yours still 4G18P? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Nov 10 2011, 06:03 AM)
What? sweat.gif
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i ROFLMAO...4g18P in CPS thread...
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post Nov 10 2011, 10:01 PM

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eh seriously ka zuma?

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