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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Official :Henderson SIGNED!!!

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post May 10 2011, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 10 2011, 11:40 AM)
The King Kenny factor again eh? In just a short time, he's transformed a side over reliant on it's skipper and star striker into a side that realies on one another. Would anyone have put money on players like Mereiles, Kuyt, Spearing, and Maxi stepping up to the plate in the absence of our maligned captain to support our "star" strikers? This is what Rafa intended to achieve but never really did. Back then his start forward was Mista but the goals came from everywhere. Seems like King Kenny has completed what he started.
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Yes, Kenny is the right man to materialized what Rafa started and take the club forward. Its not a surprise we didn't struggle to score in a game without gerrard and torres anymore. and for Kuyt to consistently scoring even with the stick that he received from fans for years. Kenny done wonders! FSG is mad not to sign him for permanent deal.

btw, 4th is possibility but very2 slim chances. 5th is good enough considering the position we are in early in the season.
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post May 11 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(joonchingg @ May 11 2011, 11:12 AM)
dont want to sound like an ass.. but it bothers me abit to look at theSun logo beside the poster eventhough i know it under different company.

i remember a while back in RAWK a lad from liverpool come to malaysia for holiday and disgusted when saw so many people wearing liverpool kit while reading the paper. he went on ranting about a few other things related to Malaysia Liverpool fans.

just saying though...

QUOTE(blissandecstasy @ May 11 2011, 01:14 PM)
16th July. ready guys ?

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Already marked on my calendar..
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post May 13 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(daidzz @ May 13 2011, 05:15 AM)
Received my away jersey today. smile.gif
Thought i'd dedicate this one to the 96. #JFT96
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that is boss! notworthy.gif

FSG finally give Kenny the contract.. future looks good
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post May 16 2011, 11:50 AM

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the team was poor last night. regardless the dodgy penalty decision by webb, the team dont deserve any point imho.

this lost helped to show the true depth of our squad. still lacking quality.. i hope the owners saw it and will give kenny a proper fund for transfer this summer.


QUOTE(mersey96 @ May 16 2011, 11:45 AM)
Why we need to bother abOut the joker from scum. This is our thread and it is meant for scousers. All opinions express here is for our own discussion only. Comments from moron of other team will cause word of war and no point arguing as they can't see things as we do. We are of different viewpoint and those morons that come here trying to rub salt/act like saint/act like mr they-know-it-all will NEVER EVER understand what we are trying to say and discuss with fellow scousers. It's a waste of time!!

This is why we need different thread. Ur team wins, enjoy with ur fellow supporter. I'm not saying we don't tolerate comments/don't admit failure. Get a life, fact is that even u morons from other team wins the word of wars, it will never make your team become more successful/powerful/superior. F**k off!!! I'm so fed up with the childish act of yours.
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eh wait, i'm not scouse.. i believe none of use here are.. hehe..

anyway, a friendly banter from other team wouldnt hurt but troll is best to ignore. stop feeding them and they will be gone.. that is all..

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post May 16 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 16 2011, 05:10 PM)
Its normal guys. Manure has 3 of their people knighted and we have none.

But u know the FA is Manure's play-toy.
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nothing to do with the FA.. usually knighthood given when got strong backup from minister or royalty whatsoever..

not sure why bother with the knighthood since Sir Bob knew how Liverpool fans appreciated what he and Shanks did for the club. Shanks lay the foundations, Paisley build the empire!

I also think Kenny is not bother to get the title too.
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post May 19 2011, 01:05 PM

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To play in Europe be it Europa or EUFA is not meaningless at all. Its a trophy of europe competition. The players looks do disinterested because you know, Uncle Hodgson is the manager and the club was not doing really well either during that time. Only downside of Europa is the away games.. some place are really too far. If people thinks its not important then fair play.

EUFA feels like have a lot more prestige because before Rafa came, CL is just a competition we go to, got eliminated on group stage then relegated to EUFA cup. That time, the furthers we reach in CL is the knockout stage I think.

"We belong in CL" - saidly, no we dont.. not for 2012 season. next season when Kenny is in full gear with new signings.. crushing everyone in domestic competitions then we can say we belong in CL. Just my 2 cents
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post May 19 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 18 2011, 11:25 PM)
Well thats your opinion then.Still doesnt change the fact that i think it is a useless competition and all the time i end up disappointed.
Whats worse is the players dont give a damn about playing in it.U can see the disinterested look on gerrard,reina,torres face when we played.
We belong in CL not europa. shakehead.gif
I am a fan but im not ready to call myself a fanatic.
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oh my.. it looks like ive been misunderstood. my bad for not quoting.. anyway, i never think any competition is useless. my post is a reply to the post above. players looks disinterested because that time the mood is not fully recovered yet, kenny still finding the right tactics since Suarez is not eligible.. etc.. etc... that is all. i bet if we still in Europa now the story might be different.


QUOTE(love.beginner @ May 19 2011, 10:32 AM)
im partially agree with rotuham though, europa cup certainly lost its spark compare when it was still uefa cup. im not sure why, maybe cause CL have been promoted heavily, indirectly leading europa cup as a "loser" cup. how many of us watch porto vs braga in europa cup final anyway, im not even bothered to know who wins the cup.
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And the UEFA cup is a reply to this. what i mean "before Rafa" is not "before" from the beginning of time.. im well aware of our 4 European cups. i just mean the 90's up till Ged. EUFA cup feels like it have more spark compare to Europa cup because it was our bread and butter.. the competition we have a chance to win. while CL during at the time was too hard for us to progress beyond knockout stages. Now since we already experienced consistent run of CL under Rafa, we no longer put high values on Europa. this is what i mean by that..

im damn proud when we won it in 2001. so winning Europa is still winning a major trophy.
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post May 19 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 19 2011, 03:16 PM)
Whether or not it's merely an excuse to you, all evidence points towards it being true. Yes, as a professional, you should give your level best no matter what but being human, it's conceivable to believe that players play better when they're happy. Jamie Carragher is a legend and plays his heart out for us, yet he couldn't even find a way into the England setup ahead of Ledley King, Matthew Upsona and Michael Dawson.

Why the team didn't perform under Roy isn't just attributed to state of mind. His tactics were piss poor. The team already lacked motivation during Rafa's last year and it continued under Hodgson. Only after Dalglish was appointed that it picked up. Players like anyone else, require motivation. Hell as employees, we're paid to perform at our peak in the office and yet we have off days. Like us, players aren't machines.

Our revenue wouldn't hurt? Some money is better than no money and like I said earlier, winning the Europa League will amount to half what we'll get if we finish where we are in the league now. That's a fair sum. This is excluding revenue from ticket sales and TV rights. We do have a huge global fanbase which is exactly why we should capitalise on it by playing as many games as possible on TV. What? Are we going to rely on merchandise sales alone?

Read an article and here are the three main revenue streams for any football club.
During the group stages, prices for Europa tickets are what? Let's average it out at $25 pounds. Let's also only focus on home games and say we hit an average of about 80% capacity. This isn't taking into account that ticket prices grow as we progress into the group stage and so does turnout. Being conservative, that's 35,000 people mulitplied by $25 pounds which comes up to $875,000 pounds in revenue each game.

Here is an interesting discussion on .tv that you may have come across since you frequent the site.

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I can't vefiry the source of the figures but as you can see from the replies, no on is contesting them. About 40% of our total broadcast revenue from last season came from the Europa League. Not substantial? Won't hurt much? I beg to differ.

While the Europa League may not be everyone's cup of tea, it makes good business sense to be in it, and judging from the numbers above, a lot of people still stay up to watch us play, me included.
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the figures shows how far other big club left us behind. like u said, missing out on euro comp will cut those broadcasting revenue down. thank god FSG replaced G&H and clear most of the debt.. otherwise who knows whats going to happen if those two clown still own the club. it also shows how desperate we need a bigger stadium. mancs and gooners earned more than twice as much..

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post May 24 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 24 2011, 11:48 AM)
To right. In fact, I feel downright embarrased especially when one of our own misuse these terms. My colleague was speaking to someone from LFC and he told the bloke that there were a few scousers in the office. Shy wei... We are KOPITES, we aren't scouse. We also aren't "KOP". The KOP is a stand. Saying something like, "we are Kops", is like saying, "we are stadiums, or we are toilets". Gotta get our basics right please.
no need to be embarrassed.. instead of just give a cynical smile or laughed, u can always correct them politely.. we used to be clueless too.. i remember my big bro correcting/teach me about the club when i was a kid eventhough he's a hammers fan himself. (he currently devastated that his team go down. hehe)

if only that person still failed to get it right after we corrected them then its a different story.


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post May 24 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 24 2011, 12:06 PM)
A simple google search will tell you all you need. All that's required is a little effort. I don't get all my information handed to me on a platter. Lot of research over time.
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yeah you and me both.. but i always feel that if i have the knowledge then its better to englighten them on the spot so future embarrassment can be evade. sharing is caring. you and i have different opinion on that. thats fair enough.
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post May 24 2011, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 24 2011, 12:55 PM)
What Duke is trying to get at is that its not difficult to know these things. We're not asking for people to know ALL the trophies we've won and when we won it. Its a simple task of knowing what 'KOP' and 'Scouse' mean. And we are not, and never will be scouse (unless we stay in liverpool and get into their culture).

But to be fair, its also not difficult to educate the 'newer' fans. I mean, i've been a Red for 10 years now and I still cant name you all the managers in Chronological order since Fagan.
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you assume that everyone have access to the net. if you like me, coming from a ghetto where most of the guys are rempit and english skills is almost non-existent. I'm not surprised if they mistaken the meaning of scouseand kop. Thats why I said, for some people correcting them in the better way.
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post May 24 2011, 08:19 PM

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lol.. complaining Duke post boring and too long.. if its too long then dont read. go read comics instead. aiya..

and btw, Dudek retired. Thank you for Istanbul. YNWA
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post May 25 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ May 25 2011, 04:21 PM)
http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0330/liverpool.html

Check this OUT!! Aguero wanted to join liverpool in the summer of 2006.
He said

"I have been a Liverpool fan for as long as I can remember and it would be a dream to play there. I watched the Champions League final and celebrated every goal as if it was for Independiente," he told German newspaper Munich TZ.

Come on Aguero!! Join us!

And I heard this too..
RT @TouchlineDrama

Reports emerging that Liverpool are finalising a deal for Blackpool captain and midfield maestro Charlie Adam for a cut-price £7mil. Steal.
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a lot of players / ex-players suddenly become LFC fans after istanbul.. i wouldnt take them as a serious fans..
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post May 27 2011, 12:32 PM

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not all good players in other league can adapt to PL.. alot of them have tried and failed miserably in PL. we have experienced it a few times. so its up to kenny and the scout to analyze them properly. just straight away buy based on the player's 'street cred' alone is not enough and risky.
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post May 27 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 27 2011, 04:56 PM)
Caroll is the poacher type, same thing as Kuyt, although Kuyt as a poacher plays better from the deep (that's how he always poach the goals, if you guys notice, since he tends to drift from the deep and suddenly be the first on the 'loose ball' except when he's marked tightly by pacey defenders.

I still think Caroll suits the role to be the battering ram.

Though if you ask me Caroll- Suarez playing will sacrifice ONE of the wingers as one of the midfielders would have to drift wide when Suarez is having the free license to roam around.
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thats a typical assumption on Carrol doesn't it? but if you watched when he played with the barcodes he works his socks off. good technical skills and dribbles pretty well for someone his size. created alot of chances/goals for himself as well. his goal against us early in the season is one example.
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post May 29 2011, 01:27 PM

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last night was so delightful to watch..

how exactly can other team in the world survive with that kind of perfect passing and controls? the only thing preventing barca to score like cricket game is van der sar.

dont know why but the sights of that whiskey nose trembling made me smile.
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post Jun 2 2011, 02:20 AM

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SOS open branch in Malaysia. http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=276208.0

though I dont know what bullshit the other poster talk about. i got plenty of friends from the east but none of them ever claimed like what he said.
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post Jun 2 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jun 2 2011, 11:13 AM)
It feels awkward and stupid when some 'gwai low' claims to know more about our political situation than us laugh.gif although having seen his reply it seems that his kakis are upset over the same thing as I am, and somehow politics got mixed up in it.
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yeh.. weird when an outsider strongly claimed they know better about our home. sweat.gif

anyway, i agree with what you said. they seems to rushed this abit by not doing any prior announcement and talks with existing supporters groups before opening a branch here. good luck for them and hopefully they will be active in our local scene.
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anyone want to buy tickets today let me know.. i want to tumpang..
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jun 5 2011, 06:59 PM)
Sotorios Kyrgiakos. Age 31. Fee: Free.

Suits him well....Penalty giver  vmad.gif
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then could say the same to Carra too eh? own goal scorer..

soto not bad for backup CB..


oh btw, anyone who brings vuvuzeala to the MY vs LFC game need to be slapped. that thing is annoying

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