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post Nov 28 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Nov 28 2011, 10:16 PM)
My son will be doing his A levels in 2012.  As he has no interests in pursuing science related degree courses, and he did not do too well for spm (struggle with Bs and Cs), the subjects he will most likely be taking for A levels wld be:

1. Maths
2. Economics
3. English Literature

I read from the LSE website that law A levels is not really an advantage.  Still, we are weighing the option betwee phylosophy, law and further maths.  His strong A subjects for SPM are maths, add mths, english and eng lit.

Any advice?
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A level economics is not a traditional subject in the eyes of LSE. Iif he wants to do a BSc in Economics, he should add FM into the combination above.

Traditional subjects are the sciences, and the various mathematics combination for A-level. Accounting certainly isn't, so is business studies. Eng Lit might not be traditional, he has to check on that.
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post Nov 29 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Nov 28 2011, 11:39 PM)
He may want to take up law.... 

While I understand that the sciences carry alot of weight, is it still worthwhile if the likelihood of an A may not be that great and a B or C is more likely?

Most unis req 3 A levels.  If so, then wld  a combination of maths, further maths and econ maths be looked upon favorably by the better unis?

What is the advantage of a 4th subject?
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An A is always better than a B or C. I can't say that a B in physics is better than an A in business studies but I can say that an A in physics certainly looks better than an A in media studies or business studies.

Law is also not a traditional subject. So be careful.

When you speak about better universities, I take it that we are talking about UK universities. Some schools do depending on the degree program. As you probably know, LSE specifically prefers applicants with traditional A-level subjects for programs like BSc Economics. They also tell you how they fell about the various combinations for various programs.

Oxford and Cambridge also list the subjects that prefer to see in an application. Outside of the UK, it doesn't matter for the most part.

4th subject means in the event that you are able to score straight A*s, it means that you have the potential to be a very good student academically. If you end up failling or just passing the 4th subject, better just stick with 3 and do well in them. No point taking on 4 unless it's specifically stated, like medicine or some programs in some universities. In which case, you have to score straight 4As anyways.
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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 29 2011, 12:12 AM)

Where did you get this? Economics is clearly a traditional subject in the eyes of LSE... at least that is what was published on their website. LSE explicitly acknowledges six specific subjects as being the traditional subjects typical of its students for a number of courses... these are Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Economics, and Further Mathematics. It goes on to state preferred subjects for certain courses can include things like History, Literature, Geography etc. At least do some searching in advance, lest we steer others the wrong way.


As I mentioned above, Further Maths should not be a third subject. Unfortunately some A Level boards have overlap between Maths and Further Maths, and certainly they are closely related. For that reason Further Maths needs to be a fourth subject for the "better unis" (which includes LSE), so that there is enough breadth. The lack of Further Maths is not a huge issue but will be a disadvantage for anything remotely quantitative (Economics, Actuarial Science, Statistics) at the better schools, and of course the top unis (like Oxbridge) need it for a Maths degree.

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Yah. Economics, history and eng lit are traditional subjects. My recollection of this memory is 6-7 years ago. So yah, literature, math and economics are acceptable.

I think that FM has to be a fourth subject if the degree program is not related to the natural sciences. The issue of breath would only crop up if one wants to do a degree in the social sciences, the arts or management. FM was my 3rd subject and I got an offer to do physics at Imperial. I am guessing that if my choice was civil or mechanical engineering, I could have secured an offer with that combination too.

 

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