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ryei
post May 4 2011, 08:47 PM


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Hi guys,

I'm thinking of taking the franchise from ChatTime Bubble Tea. Currently waiting for their management office to reply my email.
Does any forumer know any information about this franchise? like start up capital, return etc..

Thanks!
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post May 4 2011, 09:52 PM


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just saw it at gardens mid valley ... looks interesting ...
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QUOTE(ryei @ May 4 2011, 08:47 PM)
Hi guys,

I'm thinking of taking the franchise from ChatTime Bubble Tea. Currently waiting for their management office to reply my email.
Does any forumer know any information about this franchise? like start up capital, return etc..

Thanks!
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I heard franchise need more than 200k.
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post May 5 2011, 10:34 AM


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Its ChaTime btw, not ChatTime. =)
As for the franchise amount, you will be shocked.
Lets just wait till they reply you, Im sure you had filled in the form they sent you, right?
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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ May 5 2011, 10:34 AM)
Its ChaTime btw, not ChatTime. =)
As for the franchise amount, you will be shocked.
Lets just wait till they reply you, Im sure you had filled in the form they sent you, right?
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Cha = Tea icon_rolleyes.gif

Btw it looks damn happening , got I think 2 kiosk in penang both also damn a lot of people .


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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ May 5 2011, 10:34 AM)
Its ChaTime btw, not ChatTime. =)
As for the franchise amount, you will be shocked.
Lets just wait till they reply you, Im sure you had filled in the form they sent you, right?
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ya just submitted the form.. please share with me if u know anything bout this franchise smile.gif
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post May 5 2011, 04:15 PM


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all franchise is not cheap.... that is for sure. but location is still the most important point of taking up a F&B lot.
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post May 5 2011, 07:50 PM


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Bro ,
can tell me where can i get the infor for chatime franchies ?
i saw 1 of the shop in penang damn many ppl. the ppl keep on coming.
they work non stop...
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post May 5 2011, 08:05 PM


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This will be like JCO, BigApple, KK, OldTown, StationOne, PapaRich.
So better squeeze all the juice while its fresh coz its gonna go dull after some time.

Thats my prediction.
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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ May 5 2011, 08:05 PM)
This will be like JCO, BigApple, KK, OldTown, StationOne, PapaRich.
So better squeeze all the juice while its fresh coz its gonna go dull after some time.

Thats my prediction.
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Haven't came across any outlet at the moment. Will give it a try for sure in no time ..
Thanks for sharing the info. smile.gif
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QUOTE(pocketcctv @ May 5 2011, 11:58 PM)
Haven't came across any outlet at the moment. Will give it a try for sure in no time ..
Thanks for sharing the info. smile.gif
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There are one opposite Asia Cafe in Subang.
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QUOTE(ivanleow @ May 5 2011, 07:50 PM)
Bro ,
can tell me where can i get the infor for chatime franchies ?
i saw 1 of the shop in penang damn many ppl. the ppl keep on coming.
they work non stop...
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1st Avenue + Queensbay got . Probably can try to open at Gurney or wait Pragon .
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post May 6 2011, 08:19 AM


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Wow! laugh.gif 200K for a bubble tea franchise and even ' pasar malam sells ' the same stuff nowadays. You still have to pay the rent though. Profit margin is also very high off course. ChaTime is now a direct competitor to KoolBlog, both of them are available in BTS. Both of them are doing brisk business when they opens and on Sundays but it seems to be quiet nowadays. It is a fad, sadly a passing fad. That cup sealing machine costs almost 15K and that's the only new fad I see in bubble tea business nowadays.

Please consider how many minimum cups per day to cover the rentals and wages and then imagine in your mind," Is it hard to acheive minimum at this location ?" I think rental is the most important factor in this scope of franchise. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 10 2011, 12:10 PM


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200k just too expensive
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post May 10 2011, 12:37 PM


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they growing nearby college
estimated around 20 branches now
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post May 10 2011, 01:20 PM


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If I'm the owner, I will take all the good locations first. The rest not-so-good locations, you all franchisees take lar. I collect franchise fees only, haha! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(etigge @ May 6 2011, 08:19 AM)
Wow!  laugh.gif  200K for a bubble tea franchise and even ' pasar malam sells ' the same stuff nowadays. You still have to pay the rent though. Profit margin is also very high off course. ChaTime is now a direct competitor to KoolBlog, both of them are available in BTS. Both of them are doing brisk business when they opens and on Sundays but it seems to be quiet nowadays. It is a fad, sadly a passing fad. That cup sealing machine costs almost 15K and that's the only new fad I see in bubble tea business nowadays.

Please consider how many minimum cups per day to cover the rentals and wages  and then imagine in your mind," Is it hard to acheive minimum at this location ?" I think rental is the most important factor in this scope of franchise.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif

Start your own brand without the sealing machine ?

Just cup + lid biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2011, 06:42 PM


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QUOTE(etigge @ May 6 2011, 08:19 AM)
Wow!  laugh.gif  200K for a bubble tea franchise and even ' pasar malam sells ' the same stuff nowadays. You still have to pay the rent though. Profit margin is also very high off course. ChaTime is now a direct competitor to KoolBlog, both of them are available in BTS. Both of them are doing brisk business when they opens and on Sundays but it seems to be quiet nowadays. It is a fad, sadly a passing fad. That cup sealing machine costs almost 15K and that's the only new fad I see in bubble tea business nowadays.

Please consider how many minimum cups per day to cover the rentals and wages  and then imagine in your mind," Is it hard to acheive minimum at this location ?" I think rental is the most important factor in this scope of franchise.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jenova @ May 10 2011, 12:10 PM)
200k just too expensive
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200k is still not enough !
Btw, Koolblog and Each-a-Cup is not a direct competitor to ChaTime. The latter is slightly higher standard than them.

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QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ May 10 2011, 06:42 PM)
200k is still not enough !
Btw, Koolblog and Each-a-Cup is not a direct competitor to ChaTime. The latter is slightly higher standard than them.
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Looks like you are one of the franchisee or related to one or have enquired about it. brows.gif

Do you mind to tell us more about it?

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post May 10 2011, 10:17 PM


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I know only that Chatime tasted very very good!
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post May 11 2011, 06:36 AM


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In terms of quality and taste, ChaTime is best, and I've heard the starting capital is in the RM200-400K region. They charge really high prices as well , but its well worth it.

Followed by EachACup which is around RM80k starting capital

and CoolBlog .. which I have no idea, but in my personal opinion the taste isn't as good as the other two.
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post May 11 2011, 09:03 AM


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I believe most of us at first think Chatime very nice because previously Chatime is the only option for Malaysia, but now Gong-Cha open in The Garden and SS15, once you taste Gong Cha or other options then you may feel Chatime not that nice any more.....

Just like Donut, at first J.Co is the only, then later Big Apple & Krispy Kreme bumps in then and you have more choices, you may not think J.Co is that nice any more...

But for me RM200k just too much, some more if u included rental, reno, stocks, i sure it will go up to 350k or something....

Just my 2cent...

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post May 11 2011, 11:09 AM


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QUOTE(katopunk @ May 10 2011, 07:40 PM)
Looks like you are one of the franchisee or related to one or have enquired about it.  brows.gif

Do you mind to tell us more about it?
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Haha, true.
I've researched about it before that's why I know about it alil.

QUOTE(jenova @ May 11 2011, 09:03 AM)
I believe most of us at first think Chatime very nice because previously Chatime is the only option for Malaysia, but now Gong-Cha open in The Garden and SS15, once you taste Gong Cha or other options then you may feel Chatime not that nice any more.....

Just like Donut, at first J.Co is the only, then later Big Apple & Krispy Kreme bumps in then and you have more choices, you may not think J.Co is that nice any more...

But for me RM200k just too much, some more if u included rental, reno, stocks, i sure it will go up to 350k or something....

Just my 2cent...
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Yeah, I checked about Gong-cha and believe its the direct competitor of ChaTime.
They are both bigger-sized franchise from TW.
However, I've not try it before therefore can't confirm on the taste.


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post May 26 2011, 12:31 PM


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200k seems like a lot but looking at the outlet in Mid Valley, they prob made back that amount within first few months! But I agree this is a fad like donuts though. Just get in fast and make a quick buck before market gets saturated.

Gong Cha is in Gardens also, but location not as good. See review here:

http://dropsofcontentment.blogspot.com/



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QUOTE(jenova @ May 11 2011, 09:03 AM)
I believe most of us at first think Chatime very nice because previously Chatime is the only option for Malaysia, but now Gong-Cha open in The Garden and SS15, once you taste Gong Cha or other options then you may feel Chatime not that nice any more.....

Just like Donut, at first J.Co is the only, then later Big Apple & Krispy Kreme bumps in then and you have more choices, you may not think J.Co is that nice any more...

But for me RM200k just too much, some more if u included rental, reno, stocks, i sure it will go up to 350k or something....

Just my 2cent...
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Gong-Cha? hmm.gif nvr seen it. Just tried chatime b4 .. i think it's really nice ..
will try out gong-cha some other time.

but this chatime reli is happening now. the queue in outlet in pyramid have to wait for half an hour just for one cup of bubble tea.. whistling.gif
guess it's reli profitable. but .. dunno how long can this trend last.

last time j-co also nd to queue damn long just for the doughnut.. now .. now no more d brows.gif
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post May 26 2011, 02:36 PM


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Not only the trend fad but your money also fly!

Guy dun forget the rental is exorbitant in those places. The happiest person is the mall owner - shake legs and get superb rental plus free publicity for the Mall due to the long queue at the franchisee outlet.
When trend no more and franchisee drowning and wants out, lagi can penalized the franchisee for early exit in-spite of long queue for the site!
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post May 26 2011, 08:01 PM


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Then you all should try Pearl Discovery in Sri Petaling and Kuchai Lama. There bubble milk tea very nice, can compete with Chatime, but price different alot.
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Seems like market will become really saturated soon. If the owner interested in the franchise, really need to fast before the fad is over. Anyway do you guys think the price of the drinks is quite pricey? I mean personal opinion.
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the chattime in Garden, MV also damn long Q... with electronic board number summore, just like bank...LoL..


Added on May 26, 2011, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 26 2011, 09:08 PM)
Seems like market will become really saturated soon. If the owner interested in the franchise, really need to fast before the fad is over. Anyway do you guys think the price of the drinks is quite pricey? I mean personal opinion.
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for me, i had try it once for the fun of it. but i don't think will buy another cup within the next few months. is much more pricey compare to 'each a cup'.

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its weird that most of you are new to chatime, but ever since they started going big and kept on opening more branches, their quality has dropped ...
not to mention the long queue as well

and at the same time Gong Cha appeared and they are seriously better than Chatime but limited choices ... and no free stamp card ... and their lines moves faster too - maybe its because less choices ...
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i vote for Gong Cha as well... their taste for me is much better than Chatime.....especially their Signature Milk Tea series.... but i would suggest u guys just take 50% sweetness when buying.


Added on May 27, 2011, 12:09 amas i know, there are more Taiwanese bubble tea landing to Malaysia soon, like Gong Cha... so for people who thinking to take Chatime i would advise you to wait for a while, see hows the market reaction first.

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Ain't all those bubble tea the same thing?

The only thing differs is taste, price, concept and etc. The fundamental is still BUBBLE TEA.

If one intends to run the business, why should one be in a mall? I couldn't agree that the publicity reaches more audience hence will have long long queue.

But ain't business is all about branding and patiently building your business empire?

If one is just looking at current trend to do business, then what if the trend dies out? Close the shop and look for another trend? I know someone is making money out from this, but not everyone can do it?
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QUOTE(edyek @ May 27 2011, 10:33 AM)
Ain't all those bubble tea the same thing?

The only thing differs is taste, price, concept and etc. The fundamental is still BUBBLE TEA.

If one intends to run the business, why should one be in a mall? I couldn't agree that the publicity reaches more audience hence will have long long queue.

But ain't business is all about branding and patiently building your business empire?

If one is just looking at current trend to do business, then what if the trend dies out? Close the shop and look for another trend? I know someone is making money out from this, but not everyone can do it?
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So what are you really suggesting?
Don't sell bubble tea in malls?
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QUOTE(edyek @ May 27 2011, 10:33 AM)
Ain't all those bubble tea the same thing?

The only thing differs is taste, price, concept and etc. The fundamental is still BUBBLE TEA.

If one intends to run the business, why should one be in a mall? I couldn't agree that the publicity reaches more audience hence will have long long queue.

But ain't business is all about branding and patiently building your business empire?

If one is just looking at current trend to do business, then what if the trend dies out? Close the shop and look for another trend? I know someone is making money out from this, but not everyone can do it?
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well, it is still bubble tea for sure ... but ChaTime definitely have a good branding and also daringly taken up gardens at really strategic location. Whether the trend will die out, i believe that time will tell, but based on the pricing and product, I think it stands a good chance of a long run (as opposed to doughnuts), i tend to believe that beverages will do better.

Whether the trend runs out or not, that is the nature of risk taking which occurs in every business. No one can provide guarantees. Just have to ride it while you can.


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The question is, does this business sustainable? Maybe it won't make a big loss but Malaysian culture is when something new enter the market and will slowly die off. Check their competitor like dailyfresh or shilin. They used to be the next big thing but then slowly the business just gone slow.

Think of an exit strategy if really into this business. biggrin.gif
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post May 28 2011, 01:10 AM


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totally agree..... at last the one who could laugh till the end is the master franchisor...who suck all ur blood money and see u die slowly.....

i believe this business could long last than doughnut...but make sure the franchisee fee not sky high....

If RM100k++ i will consider lar.... but if RM300k++ (including start up cost + rental + renovation) for me is just totally nonsense.....
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QUOTE(edyek @ May 27 2011, 10:33 AM)
Ain't all those bubble tea the same thing?

The only thing differs is taste, price, concept and etc. The fundamental is still BUBBLE TEA.

If one intends to run the business, why should one be in a mall? I couldn't agree that the publicity reaches more audience hence will have long long queue.

But ain't business is all about branding and patiently building your business empire?

If one is just looking at current trend to do business, then what if the trend dies out? Close the shop and look for another trend? I know someone is making money out from this, but not everyone can do it?
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Some people prefer to ride the waves of trend. Not everybody want to build their own brand and empire.

As for whether the brand will die out or not. Yes it definitely will.

Here in Australia, we have ChaTime too. Like any other bubbletea business, this high quality one receives the recognition it deserves at the first few month of its launch.

I personally tried it myself at one of the shop near my place and I have to tell you, if you don't make good tea you don't make good ChaTime.

I don't think the franchise focus so much on the quality of its product. They teach you how to make it but you have to know the best way to make it so that the tea (Cha) can be tasted when you drink them.

If you can't do that like many of the ChaTime shops we have here in Sydney, you'll lose your long queue of customers in no time.
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Quality of the chatime beverages is depending on the person making it.
Just compare the queue between Times Square and also Gardens.
Some of the previous Times Square staff has migrated to Gardens - Not to mention Gardens is now the all ladies team - Perhaps that's one of the reason for the long queue?
The franchise cost is MYR 500k.

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no1 mention yippee cup?
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omg !!! Kons, are u sure RM500k ???
its really siao.... i think their franchisee will die very soon.......
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QUOTE(kons @ May 28 2011, 09:10 AM)
Quality of the chatime beverages is depending on the person making it.
Just compare the queue between Times Square and also Gardens.
Some of the previous Times Square staff has migrated to Gardens - Not to mention Gardens is now the all ladies team - Perhaps that's one of the reason for the long queue?
The franchise cost is MYR 500k.
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500K!? Means exclude all other setup costs like reno, initial stock??

Sounds really steep!

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ChatTime in Taiwan is suspected to have DEHP that couuld cause cancer. This franchise will have some tough time ahead
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shocking.gif In that case most powder formed drinks especially all bubble tea flavours derived from is fromTaiwan. DEHP is used as a clouding agent for the drinks.
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QUOTE(etigge @ May 29 2011, 09:11 AM)
shocking.gif In that case most powder formed drinks especially all bubble tea flavours derived from is fromTaiwan. DEHP is used as a clouding agent for the drinks.
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shocking.gif wah lau eh ....foods and beverages laced with DEHP can also disrupt the endocrine system and change hormone levels! doh.gif

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TAIPEI -- Shares of food firms were under pressure on the local bourse yesterday as more products in Taiwan were found to contain the potentially carcinogenic DEHP, dealers said.

Food sector shares closed down 0.8 percent, underperforming the broader market, as the benchmark weighted index rose 0.24 percent to finish at 8,810.00.

The toxic plasticizer scare surfaced earlier this week when local health authorities detected the banned chemical in a slimming supplement and then in sports and soft drinks.

The scare has snowballed with more food products, including children's food supplements and vitamins as well as ingredients used to make bubble tea, found to be tainted.

As of Friday noon, a total of 130 food products were confirmed by the Food and Drug Administration to contain DEHP, while 95 manufacturers were found to have used the banned ingredient. The incident has caused major product recalls at home and even in neighboring markets, such as Hong Kong and Shanghai.


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Yes, this is the latest threat for the bubble tea businesses.
But funny that it only pointed to the UK bubble tea outlet.
Wondering what about the others. Are they affected?
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There's a reminder on ChaTime's cup advising customers to consume the tea within 2 hours. I wonder why? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ May 29 2011, 04:51 PM)
hmm Chatime Malaysia just posted a notice on their Facebook yesterday saying tea and coffee series are safe to drink while the ones affected are only Passionfruit series
Chatime Malaysia announcement
but then just now a short sneek peek of the 8tv news says that Taiwan bubble milk tea something something.perhaps lab testing
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My friends review on ChaTime suggest that it is good. Not bad, you should open one too since it's quite fresh to the market and like some other forumers said, squeeze the juice while it lasts.
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There's a reminder on ChaTime's cup advising customers to consume the tea within 2 hours. I wonder why? hmm.gif
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Well, they stated 'best consumed within 2 hours to get the freshness out of it' or smth like that.
Prolly because their tea is kept warm before used to brew or mix.

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just knew that have another brand landed malaysia...seems like we will see a 'bubble war' very soon!!

for those who really thinking spend RM 500k to get ChaTime... would u still head to Chatime or wait n see how the other brands do?

Actually i Just curious is M'sian really like bubble that much?? 3-5 international brand landed and fighting .....

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QUOTE(jenova @ May 31 2011, 08:49 PM)
just knew that have another brand landed malaysia...seems like we will see a 'bubble war' very soon!!

for those who really thinking spend RM 500k to get ChaTime... would u still head to Chatime or wait n see how the other brands do?

Actually i Just curious is M'sian really like bubble that much?? 3-5 international brand landed and fighting .....
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i dont think RM500K is worth it. you might as well set up a new brand yourself!? but of course u have to do more homework in that case.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ May 29 2011, 04:51 PM)
So after this, will franchise system still need that lots of money?

This industry suddenly got hit hard.. Each time food scandal comes up, it will get hit hard..
I remember when Japan nuclear crisis came out, people are abstaining from buying fishes, especially salmon, and also sushi business took a plunge during that period of time. I got to know a company, sales drop 30-40% because of those nuclear rumors.

But, after a period of time, things will repair, consumer will forget, and things goes normal again..
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How forgetful are we, consumers smile.gif
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jun 1 2011, 01:07 AM)
So after this, will franchise system still need that lots of money?

This industry suddenly got hit hard.. Each time food scandal comes up, it will get hit hard..
I remember when Japan nuclear crisis came out, people are abstaining from buying fishes, especially salmon, and also sushi business took a plunge during that period of time. I got to know a company, sales drop 30-40% because of those nuclear rumors.

But, after a period of time, things will repair, consumer will forget, and things goes normal again..
Haha

How forgetful are we, consumers smile.gif
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It's not forgetful.
Human just take things for granted. Me including. >_>

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500K!? Means exclude all other setup costs like reno, initial stock??

Sounds really steep!

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At first I have the same thinking as you that who would pay so much for this franchise, assuming it is really RM500k.. but after studying their business for some time, now I am thinking the franchise fee is based more on the earning capacity of the business rather than just as start up cost.

Hence, with an estimated nett profit of RM40k per month.. (how I got this is based on rough estimations on sales and costs) the franchise holder would need a year to recoup the initial cost.. and the holder would have great profit each month after that.. provided the trend is going strong in Malaysia..



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Even the bubble itself are not good to our health. This had been highlighted before somewhere, magazine or paper.

SO EAT LESS BUBBLE TEA! laugh.gif
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At first I have the same thinking as you that who would pay so much for this franchise, assuming it is really RM500k.. but after studying their business for some time, now I am thinking the franchise fee is based more on the earning capacity of the business rather than just as start up cost.

Hence, with an estimated nett profit of RM40k per month.. (how I got this is based on rough estimations on sales and costs) the franchise holder would need a year to recoup the initial cost.. and the holder would have great profit each month after that.. provided the trend is going strong in Malaysia..
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Rather risky considering most of the franchises are unable to maintain the level of hype.
I've listed a few examples before.
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BTW how's the queue at these outlet now that the news is out.
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BTW how's the queue at these outlet now that the news is out.
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The ChaTime outlet in Berjaya Times Sq. is still the same. laugh.gif The line is long and those sitting there is still waiting.
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Basically just another fad that will die down very quickly. Look at those donuts shop. Nowdays you dont find ppl queue anymore unlike last time when first introduce.
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They must keep introducing new things and attractions if they wanna maintain.
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So the confirmed franchisee cost would be around RM500K for ChaTime?
I might reconsider it again....btw, can i have ChaTime web site?
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So the confirmed franchisee cost would be around RM500K for ChaTime?
I might reconsider it again....btw, can i have ChaTime web site?
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ChaTime web site? Like that also you can't Google? hmm.gif
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ChaTime web site? Like that also you can't Google? hmm.gif
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Basically just another fad that will die down very quickly. Look at those donuts shop. Nowdays you dont find ppl queue anymore unlike last time when first introduce.
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Agree with this. When people see that business is that good, other entrepreneurs will start their own store trying to capture the hype. When more and more similar business appears, your business will definitely be affected.
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franchise business is not really worth to do... as they will standardize the reno, the supplies etc, which they will arrange all for u, u have no objection even the price is not really competitive.

another thing is u r earning for them, they get certain % of the profit from u, after deducting all expenses, u actually cant earn much.

this is the experience of my hubby's family member who take up franchise for Hai-O before >.<
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franchise business is not really worth to do... as they will standardize the reno, the supplies etc, which they will arrange all for u, u have no objection even the price is not really competitive.

another thing is u r earning for them, they get certain % of the profit from u, after deducting all expenses, u actually cant earn much.

this is the experience of my hubby's family member who take up franchise for Hai-O before >.<
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U are basically riding on it's brand and concept.
That's what franchise is all about.
U pay them royalty for ;
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That's why it's recommended only to those who are lazy and unable to create their own unique concept.
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I ain't so sure if it is really RM500k, if it is really so, isn't it very sufficient to spend into a new brand?
Research, hardware, visual presentation and branding wouldn't be more expensive than RM500k I presume?
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QUOTE(kbandito @ Jun 9 2011, 11:04 PM)
I ain't so sure if it is really RM500k, if it is really so, isn't it very sufficient to spend into a new brand?
Research, hardware, visual presentation and branding wouldn't be more expensive than RM500k I presume?
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It aint RM500k, but definitely above the 200k mark.
Yes, it is sufficient to create your own brand & image, but it is always easier to ride on others that already have a 'success' system.
Like I said, those who don't know how to create their own brand, go franchising.

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For the franchise it self cost RM250k without renovation, but u definitely need around RM450k ++ to start the whole business (renovation, rental, down payment, inventories, wages, licensing, back-up capital, etc) , also you have to pay 5% of your sales value as 'loyalty fee'..... (if i'm not mistaken)

so in final....RM500k maybe not far away......


So why dont consider other brand like Gong Cha, Ochado, Cup Bon or others brand? all of them are doing same type of business but cost you lower if you really keen on this business.

Just wait for few months and see how others brand perform then you can make ur best decision...

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For the franchise it self cost RM250k without renovation, but u definitely need around RM450k ++ to start the whole business (renovation, rental, down payment, inventories, wages, licensing, back-up capital, etc) , also you have to pay 5% of your sales value as 'loyalty fee'..... (if i'm not mistaken)

so in final....RM500k maybe not far away......
So why dont consider other brand like Gong Cha, Ochado, Cup Bon or others brand? all of them are doing same type of business but cost you lower if you really keen on this business.

Just wait for few months and see how others brand perform then you can make ur best decision...
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Gong Cha in Gardens, Midvalley quite popular too, pity it lose out to ChaTime in terms of location. Even on an isolated corner in 2nd floor, I see customers lining up for Gong Cha. smile.gif
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Why not make yr own brand instead? bubble tea is not rocket science and most people cannot recognise the difference between chattime or no name brand bubble tea. The trick is in the packaging and concept.
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Fu pang thread, sorry a bit off topic.
wanna ask is ther anyone know bout franchising Daiso Japan?
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So what if the fad will die down? Yes, people will stop lining up, but it doesn't mean that the business will close shop. They will still have customers. I don't see Big Apple, J. Co, or Krispy Kreme gulung tikar yet. Their shops are still standing.
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So what if the fad will die down? Yes, people will stop lining up, but it doesn't mean that the business will close shop. They will still have customers. I don't see Big Apple, J. Co, or Krispy Kreme gulung tikar yet. Their shops are still standing.
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That's the limitations with franchises. If it was not a franchise, you can start tyo add snacks into your menu later on using the same premises but in a franchise setup, this is not allowed. I think it is much safer to get an interior designer to design a nice setup and start your own brand, using a foreign Taiwanese name if you insist, afterall you are going to buy the same ingredients, the same equipments. I saw them at the last food fair. If the fad dies down, you can convert it into a small cafe and still selling the 'gong teh' laugh.gif Afterall why waste an over 100K renovations. icon_rolleyes.gif
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To the forumer who said that the franchise fees are 500K, I'm curious where you got the info from?

I know the master franchisors (a few partners) for Chatime, and it definitely is not more than 200k. Then again, this was when they first started they asked me to take up a franchise, I don't know if that's a special price, or perhaps they've increased their price now.


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Also, I prefer Gong Cha tongue.gif

Pity they don't do franchise... The owners want to open all the (good) branches themselves (first).
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That's a smart move. Similar to the Golden Arches.
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yup, my fren just asked them last month. Franchise fee is RM300k, not include renovation, inventories... and u have to pay 5% of ur sales as loyalty fee every month.........

in final, u definitely need around 500k to open ur Chatime.

so my fren now going to take other brand, (not gong cha, but other brand)


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yup, my fren just asked them last month. Franchise fee is RM300k, not include renovation, inventories... and u have to pay 5% of ur sales as loyalty fee every month.........

in final, u definitely need around 500k to open ur Chatime.

so my fren now going to take other brand, (not gong cha, but other brand)
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5%? a bit too much for a franchise business isnt it?
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Also, I prefer Gong Cha tongue.gif

Pity they don't do franchise... The owners want to open all the (good) branches themselves (first).
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Heard that Gong Cha Franchise is just 250k for 2 branches compare to Chatime 300k for 1 branch, it sound too over and no idea why those people still want to franchise, and I also heard Ochado doing their franchise for just 100k , can open 3 X chatime. lolx!!
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QUOTE(chawoon @ Jun 20 2011, 05:50 PM)
Heard that Gong Cha Franchise is just 250k for 2 branches compare to Chatime 300k for 1 branch, it sound too over and no idea why those people still want to franchise, and I also heard Ochado doing their franchise for just 100k , can open 3 X chatime. lolx!!
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Gong Cha is not open for franchise yet AFAIK.
But for ChaTime, yes it is around that amount.
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5%? a bit too much for a franchise business isnt it?
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5 percent is the standard rate it seems. It is "ROYALTY" and not "loyalty" fee as said. Station One even collects another 1 percent for promotion fees rclxub.gif So imagine your turnover is 100K a month and you have to pay them 5K ontop of the profits they are making by supplying you the ingredients. shakehead.gif Still it must be good since so many are interested. The brains are actually the Taiwanese and the mules are us in Malaysia. It all has to do with R&D which our country is sorely lacking. We don't have experts to use which chemical to actually enhance the flavours and experts to package and market it. laugh.gif


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i don know what so hot about the chatime. no offense but i tried once at kl. nothing special really.
at kota kinabalu here, we got 2 quite well-known bubble tea cafe. 1 is yoyo cafe another is easyway. almost full house everyday. a cup of pearl milk tea around rm4 only. way cheaper than chatime.
but so far i went to kl study for 2 years, i never see any yoyo cafe over there. got 1 easyway at genting klang.
TS maybe u can consider to get this franchise and open over there.
sabahan will give u a million thanks!
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Are u sure open 'chatime'. after that incident at taiwan, i saw their business ok ok only.. not that good compare last time.. so far i think snowflake is a better drink compare to those gong cha, bubble tea .. etc
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QUOTE(jenova @ Jun 19 2011, 07:01 PM)
yup, my fren just asked them last month. Franchise fee is RM300k, not include renovation, inventories... and u have to pay 5% of ur sales as loyalty fee every month.........

in final, u definitely need around 500k to open ur Chatime.

so my fren now going to take other brand, (not gong cha, but other brand)
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Hi, any idea on how to get in touch with them?

Do you have a number?

Have been searching for their contact online, but can't find..
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Hi, any idea on how to get in touch with them?

Do you have a number?

Have been searching for their contact online, but can't find..
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If google failed, try facebook - http://www.facebook.com/chatimemalaysia?sk=info

No phone contact though, just the address. Cheers.

Oh... There is Franchise Enquiry: franchise@chatime.com.my

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If google failed, try facebook - http://www.facebook.com/chatimemalaysia?sk=info

No phone contact though, just the address. Cheers.

Oh... There is Franchise Enquiry: franchise@chatime.com.my
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Hi Gurus,

Anyone knows how or where I can go to apply for this chatime franchise? Thanks very much.

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Anyone knows how or where I can go to apply for this chatime franchise? Thanks very much.

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Anyone knows how or where I can go to apply for this chatime franchise? Thanks very much.

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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Jun 29 2011, 10:44 AM)
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Anyone knows how or where I can go to apply for this chatime franchise? Thanks very much.

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Hi roont88,

Maybe you can consider starting your own brand of bubble tea? instead of taking a frachise. You will save tonnes of franchise and royalty fee. The only catch is you need to build your own brand slowly. However once you get one or two locations up and running, the opportunities are endless, you may now franchise to others than taking up franchise.
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QUOTE(greenlight88 @ Jul 7 2011, 09:58 AM)
Hi roont88,

Maybe you can consider starting your own brand of bubble tea? instead of taking a frachise. You will save tonnes of franchise and royalty fee. The only catch is you need to build your own brand slowly. However once you get one or two locations up and running, the opportunities are endless, you may now franchise to others than taking up franchise.
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hi, there are 3 chat times in penang right now. all doing well. need to queue to get one of those drinks !
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...and people still complain the increase of cost of living but they can indulge in all these over priced beverages everyday.. doh.gif

good luck to those who are keen with the franchise... biggrin.gif
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hi, there are 3 chat times in penang right now. all doing well. need to queue to get one of those drinks !
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Ya, it's quite popular nowadays. But only flavor different, otherwise its the same as normal bubble tea.
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From when I last enquired here, Chatime's already closed their quota for this year.

Now, there's a new competitor in the bubble tea market - Share Tea.

300k setup cost, including renovation, opening stock, deposits, franchise fees, everything.

They have one in Sg Wang and just opened one in Berjaya Times Square.

If anyone has tried it, would appreciate some feedback here.
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sorry lah

Chatime franchising queue close already for now - too many applicants.

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are you from chatime marketing?
cos you sound like you're speaking and apologising on their behalf
if so (or even if not), do you know if it'll open up again next year?
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QUOTE(jenova @ Jun 19 2011, 07:01 PM)
yup, my fren just asked them last month. Franchise fee is RM300k, not include renovation, inventories... and u have to pay 5% of ur sales as loyalty fee every month.........

in final, u definitely need around 500k to open ur Chatime.

so my fren now going to take other brand, (not gong cha, but other brand)
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ZenQ ? selling dessert also

pyramid got 1 branch going to open soon right beside kim gary , must be earn hell alot soon
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ZenQ ? selling dessert also

pyramid got 1 branch going to open soon right beside kim gary , must be earn hell alot soon
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What's ZenQ? When did it open? Is it a franchise? Good prospect?
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QUOTE(juicerer @ Aug 22 2011, 03:13 PM)
From when I last enquired here, Chatime's already closed their quota for this year.

Now, there's a new competitor in the bubble tea market - Share Tea.

300k setup cost, including renovation, opening stock, deposits, franchise fees, everything.

They have one in Sg Wang and just opened one in Berjaya Times Square.

If anyone has tried it, would appreciate some feedback here.
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Come Buy, one of the more popular ones (at least in Taipei) also has entered Malaysia.

In fact they even have a recruiting thread here in LYN

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1912170

TBH, I never seen ChaTime in Taipei but Come Buy is all over the place tongue.gif
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sorry lah

Chatime franchising queue close already for now  - too many applicants.

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How do u know? Any sources?
I personally think Chatime Boss most likely wish to have more applicant as they can earn more franchise fees thumbup.gif
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How do u know? Any sources?
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Nope, I've already asked. They're closed, at least for this year.

It's a damn good investment. You can recover your cost in less than a year.
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Truly? I thought it's just a passing phase. A fad.
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(off topic)....how about snowflake and share tea? i saw long queues at the stall too

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(off topic)....how about snowflake and share tea? i saw long queues at the stall too
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Snowflake's closed their franchising for now too. Share Tea's still open, but don't know if it can compete with Chatime..
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my fren who works in chatime marketing told me they receive an average of 500 emails a day.. n the minimum fees to be incurred is 250k..

too many branches now in kl adi.. i guess other states will be better choice? haha
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my fren who works in chatime marketing told me they receive an average of 500 emails a day.. n the minimum fees to be incurred is 250k..

too many branches now in kl adi.. i guess other states will be better choice? haha
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They've opened in Penang, Johor, Malacca aredy man.

I think it has to be a different country aredi lo.
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Btw, I would like to ask some opinions.
Assuming I want to open a desert shop.
Which do you think is easier/better ?

1) Go work hands-on part-time in similar industry (but takes longer time to raise capital) OR
2) Hire someone from the industry to pass down the knowledge to us (while we raise capital 3-6 months faster )

Also take into consideration that we would like to open it fast to be ahead of other potential competitors.

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ochado not open for franchise yet??
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my fren who works in chatime marketing told me they receive an average of 500 emails a day.. n the minimum fees to be incurred is 250k..

too many branches now in kl adi.. i guess other states will be better choice? haha
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r u sure receive 500 email/day so many ppl wan to open chat time?? it cost 250K if plus the renovation fee is come with 500K but still got many ppl
wan to open what the hell. rclxub.gif
but i see got some ppl say it can earn back that amount in one don't know izzit true or not/ tongue.gif

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chatime open at scott garden d
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QUOTE(chinyen @ Aug 24 2011, 03:12 PM)
(off topic)....how about snowflake and share tea? i saw long queues at the stall too
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Chatime already got branches in penang. But snowflakes and share tea not yet. Anyone able to open francise there will surely earn.
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if you want your biz to last more than 5 years, why dun you come up with ur own brand n franchise it out on your own or sell the whole business.
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if you want your biz to last more than 5 years, why dun you come up with ur own brand n franchise it out on your own or  sell the whole business.
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This is a good idea, but you want to make your own brand is a very very difficult this idea i think every person who wanted to do
business also got think before, ofcoz in real business world it's not so easy as we though and say it need alot of
experience to earn that we must sacrifice alot of time.
and the chances to build a new brand is 1% to sucess in the begining.

100 people doing business only 10people will sucess in 10 people
only 1person will remain in the business. icon_rolleyes.gif

ofcoz if we can sucessfully build our own that will earn alot the amount u can imagine brows.gif



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Hi,

Haven't really followed the thread but if you're interested perhaps you should call to find out and get more information. However, last I heard, the franchise is no longer available ?
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my uncle told me franchise fee alone cost rm200k...........very xpensive,
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This is a good idea, but you want to make your own brand is a very very difficult this idea i think every person who wanted to do
business also got think before, ofcoz in real business world it's not so easy as we though and say it need alot of
experience to earn that we must sacrifice alot of time.
and the chances to build a new brand is 1% to sucess in the begining.

100 people doing business only 10people will sucess in 10 people
only 1person will remain in the business. icon_rolleyes.gif

ofcoz if we can sucessfully build our own that will earn alot the amount u can imagine  brows.gif 
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becoz..the news have already published that bubble tea is harmful to be consumed..this business wont last long..

i dont understand why ppl here cant see that malaysia has become a garbage port...in us, p1 wimax is banned for extreme radiation output, therefore sold here at
cheap prices, all those daiso, 100yen is actually selling rejects or not-so-good products from japan, take this example, we have japanese branded microwaves here since many decades ago, and do you know that the producer is not even selling 1 in their own country? our buses, you guess it, are from other countries too.

and now for the bubble tea from taiwan, and fruit flavouring from china, we knew that they're toxic and yet, it's obvious the customers and lovers just ignored the news
and the impact to their body just to satisfy their taste buds.

unless, you plan to earn as much money these few years then close or sell off the biz, that's alright as i dont think this biz would last long...if you manage to open one..i congratulate you here in advance smile.gif

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i dont understand why ppl here cant see that malaysia has become a garbage port...in us, p1 wimax is banned for extreme radiation output, therefore sold here at
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There's another new player in town for the bubble tea business. Shiny Tea.

Saw this Shiny Tea about to be open in Berjaya Times Square which already has Chatime and ShareTea.
I did some searching on the internet and found out one interesting fact about this brand.

Apparently their founder is the official inventor of bubble tea! nod.gif
Seems like another interesting brand is about to enter the market.

Wonder if they offer any franchise opportunity; now that Chatime is not releasing any more franchise for this year...
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QUOTE(powderful @ Sep 27 2011, 01:26 AM)
There's another new player in town for the bubble tea business. Shiny Tea.

Saw this Shiny Tea about to be open in Berjaya Times Square which already has Chatime and ShareTea.
I did some searching on the internet and found out one interesting fact about this brand.

Apparently their founder is the official inventor of bubble tea!  nod.gif
Seems like another interesting brand is about to enter the market.

Wonder if they offer any franchise opportunity; now that Chatime is not releasing any more franchise for this year...
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so many these kind of franchisee.
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I think alot people didnt realize the different between these kind of bubble tea and those from pasar malam stall. It's not the packaging or the concept, it's the ingredient of the milk tea.

You can notice those normal bubble tea stalls have alot boxes with different color powder inside, their bubble tea is actually made by these color powder, cheap milk powder and shake with the tea. Some even worse by just using plain water mix the powder and milk powder(i've seen how they make in pasar malam). I can't taste the tea at all actually.
well, I believe Chatime uses fresh milk and tea to produce their drinks, that's why their price is abit expensive compare with those powder-mixed 'tea'.

I think beverage business is more sustainable than donut trend. I've been to Shanghai and saw alot milk tea franchises like CoCo Milk Tea or 85'C their milk tea taste much more better than Chatime. I seriously hope someone can franchise it in M'sia. tongue.gif
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hey guys any body tryed share tea ? saw one outlet at kenanga wholesale city .. wanna to try but it seems like alot of people are queuing up ? .. is chatime better then this ?
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never saw this chatime bubble tea at penang..
maybe i was looking at sometimes else most of the time..

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QUOTE(powderful @ Sep 27 2011, 01:26 AM)
There's another new player in town for the bubble tea business. Shiny Tea.

Saw this Shiny Tea about to be open in Berjaya Times Square which already has Chatime and ShareTea.
I did some searching on the internet and found out one interesting fact about this brand.

Apparently their founder is the official inventor of bubble tea!  nod.gif
Seems like another interesting brand is about to enter the market.

Wonder if they offer any franchise opportunity; now that Chatime is not releasing any more franchise for this year...
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Would you happen to have their contact or know how to get in touch with them?
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Beside mal'sia there are alot alot this kind
of bubble tea but not famous selling it.
but i really dont undertand why ppl like drink this "bubble tea" so much
event can spend 5 buck or more to buy just a drink rclxub.gif

some one who can explain what is happening? icon_question.gif
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Another Chatime opening soon at Sunway Carnival Mall, Penang. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 7 2011, 12:15 PM)
...and people still complain the increase of cost of living but they can indulge in all these over priced beverages everyday.. doh.gif

good luck to those who are keen with the franchise... biggrin.gif
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Why pay more to the cronies? What you are actually paying extra is for the brand name, renovations, their rental, etc.
All these drinks not healthy for consumption wan.. Prepare to potong kaki. Drink once a while ok lah..
So many people drink them. No wonder Malaysia have high obesity rate. brows.gif
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its the way they market it man
same as snowflake
it gives the illusion of health and affordable luxury
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its the way they market it man
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ya... this is one of the marketing strategy.....
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chatime just opened new outlet in plaza mont kiara, and que like crazy. ppl queing up non stop, even on weekend, nobody around, also got ppl go chatime to drink. went there 1st time, not very impressed. oreder hazelnut milk tea, below expectations.. yes, ppl willing to fork rm 5, 6 7 for the milke tea... why, though?.. marketing strategy, maybe... but i haven't seen their ads via tv/radio/print media.. any1 know how they advertise? and personally... i dont know how the business gonna stay in biz in d long run... are the drink really that nice?... or is it our culture of tea? like in australia, ppl have a coffee culture and are willing to pay for coffee... is it that in msia, we have tea/milk tea culture? enlighten me pls..
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chatime just opened new outlet in plaza mont kiara, and que like crazy. ppl queing up non stop, even on weekend, nobody around, also got ppl go chatime to drink. went there 1st time, not very impressed. oreder hazelnut milk tea, below expectations.. yes, ppl willing to fork rm 5, 6 7 for the milke tea... why, though?.. marketing strategy, maybe... but i haven't seen their ads via tv/radio/print media.. any1 know how they advertise? and personally... i dont know how the business gonna stay in biz in d long run... are the drink really that nice?... or is it our culture of tea? like in australia, ppl have a coffee culture and are willing to pay for coffee... is it that in msia, we have tea/milk tea culture? enlighten me pls..
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simple m'sians don't hav culture at all closest thing we had it's teh tarik or kopi o

all they follow is fad

1st it was starbucks n coffee bean then old town kopitiam then donuts then cupcakes then macaroons n now bubble tea

next it's probably some healthy yoghurt stuff or some sort of

australia doesn't hav a coffee culture at all

it's was started during ww2 whre lots italians migrated thre n brought in their drinking coffee culture

so now what's it's mostly coffee culture around the world wit espresso,cappuccino, caffe latte, machiatto it's from italians itself

so their onli coffee invention is the flat white whre it's 25-30ml of espresso lots of milk n a bit of foam on top smile.gif

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What's Ochado? Popular? Where are they located?
Its at Tokyo Street, Pavilion.

Its slightly more expensive - taste lighter and less bubbles compare to ChaTime and ShareTea. It feels more tea based.

ShareTea @ Sg Wang is diluted (neither tea or fruit strong) to me - and even tho with NO SUGAR, it still taste sweet - i suspect when they scoop the bubbles into the cup, they didnt sieve it properly. After cooking, the bubbles are soaked in a container of sugar syrup and scooped when needed. Not sure why.

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Shiny Tea outlet is at Berjaya Times Square Level 1 near the Monorail entrance.
You might wanna go into their store and ask the store manager about Franchise opportunity
I tried some of their products last week while I was there...it actually taste quite good...strong tea flavour as opposed to some of the other brands that I have tried...

They seems to be quite different from Chatime and Sharetea in that their primary focus seems to be on tea quality (7 different kinds of tea smile.gif) and none of those weird Taro, strawberry flavour stuff.

Heard from the staff there that there might be a promotion again next week.
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it stuffs is called pearl or bubbles??
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Any idea about GONGCHA?
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Gongcha is not opening for any franchise opportunity at the moment.
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Chatime also opens at Kenanga Wholesale Mall.
Wah, here no need to queue at all!
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Alot of people is keeping away from taiwanese food/drinks due to DEHP, teas from Melamine Cup etc

is chat time really doing well or what? alot of competitor like yippe cup etc, giving buy 1 free 1 promo also not many people buying with the same price as chat time and more variety over 90++ different flavour of bubble tea/pearls etc

Probably in malls/shopping mall is good business, but the rental is expensive but not for shops outlet.

Bubble tea/pearls selling at price rm5.90 is quite expensive price, cost only around rm1 (put some pearls, ais,tea etc) and buy 1 free 1 also around rm2.50 each also no people. with the price rather go for star buck with nice environment and wifi ready

pasar malam/ hawker stall sellling around rm2.20 each. its a big risky business.

Not many flavour bubble tea bcos of the oolong tea smell and also not good for health, sweet and can have diabetes or heart disease etc if drink too much. And also taiwanese products due to DEHP etc. bubble tea contains hazardous ingredient.

Same thing in taiwan is only below NT$35-40 about RM3.50-4.00, but here is 5.90 each rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Nov 15 2011, 01:59 PM)
Alot of people is keeping away from taiwanese food/drinks due to DEHP, teas from Melamine Cup etc

is chat time really doing well or what? alot of competitor like yippe cup etc, giving buy 1 free 1 promo also not many people buying with the same price as chat time and more variety over 90++ different flavour of bubble tea/pearls etc

Probably in malls/shopping mall is good business, but the rental is expensive but not for shops outlet.

Bubble tea/pearls selling at price rm5.90 is quite expensive price, cost only around rm1 (put some pearls, ais,tea etc) and buy 1 free 1 also around rm2.50 each also no people. with the price rather go for star buck with nice environment and wifi ready

pasar malam/ hawker stall sellling  around rm2.20 each. its a big risky business.

Not many flavour bubble tea bcos of the oolong tea smell and also not good for health, sweet and can have diabetes or heart disease etc if drink too much. And also taiwanese products due to DEHP etc.  bubble tea contains hazardous ingredient.

Same thing in taiwan is only below NT$35-40 about RM3.50-4.00, but here is 5.90 each  rclxub.gif
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I think what Chatime is selling is different from what is available at any night market. Similiar to coffee by Starbucks and mamak restaurant.

Chatime is doing extremely well, not only in shopping malls but shoplots too (I seen people q for Chatime in Seri Petaling while nearby competitors are quiet) I think ROI is very good for Chatime's venture but unless it's Chatime, you are going to sweat it all out to build a stable business. Competition is stiff. It had been mushrooming for a while.
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is there any substance to substantiate for chat time about their products, bcos alot of people is keeping away from taiwanese food/drinks due to DEHP/ teas from Melamine Cup etc

people tends to forget about it, but it dangerous to health later on
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QUOTE(recyka @ Nov 15 2011, 02:12 PM)
I think what Chatime is selling is different from what is available at any night market. Similiar to coffee by Starbucks and mamak restaurant.

Chatime is doing extremely well, not only in shopping malls but shoplots too (I seen people q for Chatime in Seri Petaling while nearby competitors are quiet) I think ROI is very good for Chatime's venture but unless it's Chatime, you are going to sweat it all out to build a stable business. Competition is stiff. It had been mushrooming for a while.
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is there any substance to substantiate for chat time about their products, bcos alot of people is keeping away from taiwanese food/drinks due to DEHP/ teas from Melamine Cup etc

people tends to forget about it, but it dangerous to health later on
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I think it had been clarified that its just tapioca... can't remember the source though..anyway i don't like the bubble thingy.. just the grass jelly or milk tea for me.

anyway, the tea they use are better quality not those pasar malam type..
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actually is in the preparation method...

U see in pasar malam or the cheaper stores they use powder and water to mix the flavour

where as the RM6 ones they brew from tea leaves, if u notice chatime, gongcha or ochado they have big tanks behind where they pour the tea out, when the tea is finish they brew it again with hot water and tea leaves. Not sure how the tea leaves are made but i guess its suppose to be healthier than instant powder
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QUOTE(lowyat888 @ Nov 15 2011, 01:59 PM)
Bubble tea/pearls selling at price rm5.90 is quite expensive price, cost only around rm1 (put some pearls, ais,tea etc) and buy 1 free 1 also around rm2.50 each also no people. with the price rather go for star buck with nice environment and wifi ready
RM5.90 ? shakehead.gif That's very expensive. In Hong Kong, they are selling one plastic cup for about RM4.80 and the plastic cup is bigger than ours.

Anyway, we have a shop called yoyo here in Kota Kinabalu and it is owned by a Taiwanese. It has since evolved from just two shops to five shops. A cup of pearl milk tea is sold for just RM3.80. It used to be just RM2.80 a few years ago.


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is there any substance to substantiate for chat time about their products, bcos alot of people is keeping away from taiwanese food/drinks due to DEHP/ teas from Melamine Cup etc

people tends to forget about it, but it dangerous to health later on
That's true!


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there is no concrete certificate from ministry of health to show customer that the taiwanese product is safe. in this business, its better to have certification from MOH, just incase anything do happen in future, blaming/sueing here n there and have something to fall back to.

100% check on products is not there and some may go thru without checking. quality control may be out due to alot of mishandling,discrepancy,other nuisance things etc

Quality is not there, only think of making $$.

For the safe of the customer, shop selling should impose certification, safety for customer to have confident in the product rather than verbally talking.

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IMHO, a smart businessman don't really bother so much as long as I can make quick money biggrin.gif of course have to make sure the drink wont cause any ppl die la

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some mixture of drinks will get stomach upset due to different kinds of people.
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The trend of bubble milk tea is slowly diminishing. I wonder what is the next trend after this?
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colouring of the powder that mix in the bubble tea. not safe
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Why do you say it is slowly diminishing? The queues are as long as ever and there are more and more branches.
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Is there any opportunity to buy a snowflakes franchise? I think it's safer comparing to those tea biz. Chatime actually own by someone I know. Not close. But heard tat they need to open up at least 25 outlets b4 giving franchise. R they reaching 25 yet? How much u need to pay n if 6 mths to break even is damn good Liao.
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Why do you say it is slowly diminishing? The queues are as long as ever and there are more and more branches.
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IMHO, I don't think it's diminishing, it's still growing... not at its peak yet.. maybe wait at least a year
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Bubble tea has always been trendy :/ lol its like Starbucks and Coffee Bean with more choices & cheaper.
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Is there any opportunity to buy a snowflakes franchise? I think it's safer comparing to those tea biz. Chatime actually own by someone I know. Not close. But heard tat they need to open up at least 25 outlets b4 giving franchise. R they reaching 25 yet? How much u need to pay n if 6 mths to break even is damn good Liao.
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Snowflakes dont do franchise cause the owner want to earn it all by himself.
Their profit at least 200%.
As said by many, 6 months breakeven so it is quite safe.
But u must at least have that amount of $$ to buy the franchise and also all the costs for the shop.
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Is there any opportunity to buy a snowflakes franchise? I think it's safer comparing to those tea biz. Chatime actually own by someone I know. Not close. But heard tat they need to open up at least 25 outlets b4 giving franchise. R they reaching 25 yet? How much u need to pay n if 6 mths to break even is damn good Liao.
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U mean u know bryan loo???

they hav alreadi 30 or more outlets n countin doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

400k or more depending on location

anyway it's overrated n plus the newer outlets r sufferin now

so it all depends on location n all the prime areas hav alreadi been taken

unless newer shopping centres which r mushroomin soon
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so whats the next trend ? i see planet popcorn, garret popcorn arnd, smth new to the market, but can it make an impact like wat chatime did ? franchise at least rm250k.. but the rate of return wont be as high as chatime imo.
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if you take the franchise don forget to tell me how bubble pearl was made of?
tea? or wad?
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i can tell u is chemicals

u can google on how to make pearls online
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Over at Sri Petaling, Snow Mix (which is actually Snowflake) doesn't seem to have that many customers. In fact, Poon Kee has more. But next to Poon Kee is ChaTime and this one is packed.

I haven't tried ChaTime but if it's something like Snowflake, I think I'll just try it one time.

Anyone prefers traditional desserts like those sold by Poon Kee? I'm not saying that they sell good stuff as I've tasted better ones in stalls like the one in the corner shop in Seapark PJ (well, used to be good, anyway)...
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Nov 21 2011, 02:40 PM)
U mean u know bryan loo???

they hav alreadi 30 or more outlets n countin doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

400k or more depending on location

anyway it's overrated n plus the newer outlets r sufferin now

so it all depends on location n all the prime areas hav alreadi been taken

unless newer shopping centres which r mushroomin soon
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The management blindly approve franchise without restrict the number in an area

In subang jaya, 2 outlet in sunway pyramid, 1 outlet in ss15(opposite asia cafe), 1 outlet in first subang, 1 outlet in summit, total up there is 5 outlet in subang jaya sweat.gif
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The management blindly approve franchise without restrict the number in an area

In subang jaya, 2 outlet in sunway pyramid, 1 outlet in ss15(opposite asia cafe), 1 outlet in first subang, 1 outlet in summit, total up there is 5 outlet in subang jaya sweat.gif
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otherwise how they sux more money from the franchisee tongue.gif

from those 5 i would say 2 of them r makin money tongue.gif
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otherwise how they sux more money from the franchisee tongue.gif

from those 5 i would say 2 of them r makin money tongue.gif
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which are the one inside pyramid and ss15 opposite asia cafe ?

i think first subang and summit would take at least double the time to break even compared to the 2 outlets above.
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The management blindly approve franchise without restrict the number in an area

In subang jaya, 2 outlet in sunway pyramid, 1 outlet in ss15(opposite asia cafe), 1 outlet in first subang, 1 outlet in summit, total up there is 5 outlet in subang jaya sweat.gif
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there is another 1 in lakeside Taylor's Syopz. so shud have 6
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which are the one inside pyramid and ss15 opposite asia cafe ?

i think first subang and summit would take at least double the time to break even compared to the 2 outlets above.
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probably mayb triple the time
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Nov 22 2011, 01:54 PM)
The management blindly approve franchise without restrict the number in an area

In subang jaya, 2 outlet in sunway pyramid, 1 outlet in ss15(opposite asia cafe), 1 outlet in first subang, 1 outlet in summit, total up there is 5 outlet in subang jaya sweat.gif
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From the master franchiser perspective, he doesn't care if the franchisee can survive or not, all he care just the franchise fee that is already paid to him. The franchisee tapao or not tapao is not his business anymore smile.gif
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New chatime in summit usj. So easy to buy it. No need line up. Business bad cos location. Anyway, pasar malam bubble tea taste better. biggrin.gif
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From the master franchiser perspective, he doesn't care if the franchisee can survive or not, all he care just the franchise fee that is already paid to him. The franchisee tapao or not tapao is not his business anymore smile.gif
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i believe the master franchiser for Malaysia owned those in strategic location, don't forget the franchise had to tied up 3 years contract sweat.gif
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just temporary only. wont last long. rental will kill the business. selling bubble teas alone wont last need to sell other things as well in order to be competitive

drink too much bubble tea is very bad for health, the pearls is tough n hard to dissolve bad for the body n will also get stomach ache due to sweet n sour taste plus simply mix different type of powder or syrup(dont know what brand) (dont know have side effect later on or not)

bubble tea wont get addicted to drink more in future not like coffee. for coffee, the more u drink will get addicted. for bubble teas, first time drink ok but no second time. if every day drink different type of bubble tea, guarantee, will get stomach ache. have test it terrible experience n also itch here n there at the body with red spots.

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But young ppl never think of health issue one because they still healthy mah. They also ada FAMA allowance to spend. They dun really care one.

YOu are right..........rental kills biz
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ChaTime currently closed off their franchising already. A friend of mine went to enquire details about it. ChaTime eventually will fade out just~ I mean how many days could you continuosly drink the same beverages? ._.
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just temporary only. wont last long. rental will kill the business. selling bubble teas alone wont last need to sell other things as well in order to be competitive

drink too much bubble tea is very bad for health, the pearls is tough n hard to dissolve bad for the body n will also get stomach ache due to sweet n sour taste  plus simply mix different type of powder or syrup(dont know what brand) (dont know have side effect later on or not)

bubble tea wont get addicted to drink more in future not like coffee. for coffee, the more u drink will get addicted. for bubble teas, first time drink ok but no second time. if every day drink different type of bubble tea, guarantee, will get stomach ache. have test it terrible experience n also itch here n there at the body with red spots.
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u r wrong in that sense if u drink more coffee u will b addicted

u r not addicted 2 the coffee but the caffeine being produce by the coffee doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

trying drinkin decaf instead

anythin wit caffeine makes u addicted like coffee, coke cigarettes etc tongue.gif

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anyone know what are the chemical material they used to make pearl and the glass jelly ? did they use the plastic chemical material to make it ?
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QUOTE(gerrardling @ Nov 23 2011, 02:42 PM)
anyone know what are the chemical material they used to make pearl and the glass jelly ? did they use the plastic chemical material to make it ?
The pearl is actually made of "sagu". Sarawak is a state producing "sagu".

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Another chatime opening in Jusco Aeon Malacca. They are springing up just like mushroom after the rain!
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The pearl is actually made of "sagu". Sarawak is a state producing "sagu".
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i know it made of sagu. but the problem is did they add in any "extra" chemical thing to soften it ?
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chattime taste damn worse . . . . . . . maybe local still have no chance to try those real milk tea yet . . . . . . . .
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i know it made of sagu. but the problem is did they add in any "extra" chemical thing to soften it ?
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try googlin molecular gastronomy n find out more doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Anyone has franchise plan/quotation of Chatime, Gongcha, Comebuy, Coolblog, Snowflakes etc?

Currently, I have Sharetea quotation in hand, I hope to research more on this business. Please pm me if you have, hope to exchange the info! Thanks!

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Snowflakes does not do franchise
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I thought the pearls were made of tapioca instead of sagu
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last 6 months before I also plan to get franchise and try search facebook and website, but not show any contact info to their management
Luckily I get Taiwan main office contact and I direct call to Taiwan, they told me Malaysia market alrdy have a company take over so you please contact this guy and his contact number.

When I call that guy, he told me that they no more open for franchise d
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QUOTE(pokok86 @ Nov 28 2011, 02:16 AM)
This topic and closed d
last 6 months before I also plan to get franchise and try search facebook and website, but not show any contact info to their management
Luckily I get Taiwan main office contact and I direct call to Taiwan, they told me Malaysia market alrdy have a company take over so you please contact this guy and his contact number.

When I call that guy, he told me that they no more open for franchise d
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There are still others like COME BUY
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QUOTE(pokok86 @ Nov 28 2011, 02:16 AM)
This topic and closed d
last 6 months before I also plan to get franchise and try search facebook and website, but not show any contact info to their management
Luckily I get Taiwan main office contact and I direct call to Taiwan, they told me Malaysia market alrdy have a company take over so you please contact this guy and his contact number.

When I call that guy, he told me that they no more open for franchise d
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No more franchise? Sure?
Mid Valley one going to open soon...
btw, how much was the franchise fee for Chatime?
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QUOTE(Violet Ling @ Nov 28 2011, 06:32 PM)
No more franchise? Sure?
Mid Valley one going to open soon...
btw, how much was the franchise fee for Chatime?
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I thought MV already got one in LG?
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I thought MV already got one in LG?
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that LG is consider under The Gardens... now opening another near GSC Mid Valley... same floor with Snowflakes... what a competition! biggrin.gif
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Chatime at Kenanga Wholesale Mall having buy 1 free 1 and free upsize to draw in empty crowds.
So far I see business is starting to catch up. Main who drink are the younger generations. Girls especially. I think they are the main target for the product.
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r u sure is rm200K franchise fee? what it is included?
If rm200K, i think roi for breakeven is 10-12 months.
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QUOTE(zen.lee29 @ Nov 28 2011, 07:25 PM)
r u sure is rm200K franchise fee? what it is included?
If rm200K, i think roi for breakeven is 10-12 months.
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Why do you say ROI for breakeven is 10-12 months? Care to explain?
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Why do you say ROI for breakeven is 10-12 months? Care to explain?
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I heard the one at Damansara Uptown branch has revenue of 6-7k per day! So you can roughly know the turnover rate..

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I heard the one at Damansara Uptown branch has revenue of 6-7k per day! So you can roughly know the turnover rate..
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Was there on a weekend night, and got to know they're selling around 800-1200 cups on that day!!! That's around revenue of 5.5k - 8.2k @ $6.90/cup
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QUOTE(zen.lee29 @ Nov 28 2011, 07:25 PM)
r u sure is rm200K franchise fee? what it is included?
If rm200K, i think roi for breakeven is 10-12 months.
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I heard the one at Damansara Uptown branch has revenue of 6-7k per day! So you can roughly know the turnover rate..
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Was there on a weekend night, and got to know they're selling around 800-1200 cups on that day!!! That's around revenue of 5.5k - 8.2k @ $6.90/cup
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I think their biggest concern is too much workforce, unnecessary money spend that could brought profit/revenue to a lower percentage.
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I got around 50K can i join as partners?
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how about 1U comebuy????i tink their business oso not bad....
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Does chatime's pearl / grass jelly contain pig gluten? Is this true?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47019407
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QUOTE(umikosan @ Nov 29 2011, 12:48 PM)
I got around 50K can i join as partners?
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from what i heard is 80k-300k francise fees depends on location and size, 5% for royalties on top of everymonth sales...


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That's the limitations with franchises. If it was not a franchise, you can start tyo add snacks into your menu later on using the same premises but in a franchise setup, this is not allowed. I think it is much safer to get an interior designer to design a nice setup and start your own brand, using a foreign Taiwanese name if you insist, afterall you are going to buy the same ingredients, the same equipments. I saw them at the last food fair. If the fad dies down, you can convert it into a small cafe and still selling the 'gong teh' laugh.gif  Afterall why waste an over 100K renovations. icon_rolleyes.gif
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After one day still nobody can give an answer to this?
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what i know is their franchise fee is RM450k, only basic equipment included.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Dec 5 2011, 04:08 PM)
Does chatime's pearl / grass jelly contain pig gluten? Is this true?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47019407
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Why not ask the poster himself.
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any website(from malaysia) that show most of the franchise fees???
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Does anyone have idea regrading writing an proposal to apply a franchise? What things should be included?
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For what I know, midvalley and the gardens Chatime is belonged to the owner (Bryan). Only second choice location are given out to others, which will cost around 400-500k including reno and equipment. So far, they growing so fast with vast opening of shops and the support of online media.

I dun understand why people are going crazy with it as Chatime doesn't do well in Taiwan (Closed many outlets). They are tagged with lower grade of milk tea by Taiwanese (This was told by my Taiwanese friend) There are much better of choice according to them.
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This is my personal opinion of the Chatime franchise. I see that the franchise owner is so willing is selling away franchise that it's ultimately hurting the brand itself. Kudos to him since he'll just be reaping the benefits of the royalties while owning the high traffic volume outlets such as Mid V and One Utama. But to the others who own supposedly 'second-tier' location, the ROI may take awhile or even worse negative returns. You can see how it's proliferating like mushrooms at almost every location such that the sales at such location are thinly spread.

I don't believe that the franchise owner works to protect the brand and its franchisee
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This Chatime popularity looks like a hype to me. A hype is only temporary and it will die down once everybody has tried it, repeatedly, and started to get bored with it.

Remember the Big Apple donut hype? Stalls mushrooming everywhere and anywhere was having long queue trying to buy the donuts. After the hype died, look at how many stalls closed down now, and the remaining stalls, where has the queue gone?

So if you are going to put in 300-400K into a franchise business (that is thriving on a hype), think about how long before you can make back the invested capital compared to how long the hype will last. If you need 2 years to breakeven, and if you think the hype will last 3 years, then you'll make money for 1 yr. If you think the hype will only last 2 years or less, then you are in for nothing or even stand to lose money.
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QUOTE(SpringChill @ Dec 8 2011, 10:52 AM)
This is my personal opinion of the Chatime franchise. I see that the franchise owner is so willing is selling away franchise that it's ultimately hurting the brand itself. Kudos to him since he'll just be reaping the benefits of the royalties while owning the high traffic volume outlets such as Mid V and One Utama. But to the others who own supposedly 'second-tier' location, the ROI may take awhile or even worse negative returns. You can see how it's proliferating like mushrooms at almost every location such that the sales at such location are thinly spread.

I don't believe that the franchise owner works to protect the brand and its franchisee
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IMHO, this business would not last long, so for a short term gain I think it's a smart move by the franchiser. After earning a hugh profit, closing down this business does not mean the end of the world, he could use the enlarged capital to do other business as well. If for me, I would do the same smile.gif


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This Chatime popularity looks like a hype to me. A hype is only temporary and it will die down once everybody has tried it, repeatedly, and started to get bored with it.

Remember the Big Apple donut hype? Stalls mushrooming everywhere and anywhere was having long queue trying to buy the donuts. After the hype died, look at how many stalls closed down now, and the remaining stalls, where has the queue gone?

So if you are going to put in 300-400K into a franchise business (that is thriving on a hype), think about how long before you can make back the invested capital compared to how long the hype will last. If you need 2 years to breakeven, and if you think the hype will last 3 years, then you'll make money for 1 yr. If you think the hype will only last 2 years or less, then you are in for nothing or even stand to lose money.
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I think the hype will last at least 1 year. The average break even period for the franchisee is 6 months, so there is another 6 months to make profit.

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QUOTE(lucifal @ Nov 29 2011, 11:19 AM)
Was there on a weekend night, and got to know they're selling around 800-1200 cups on that day!!! That's around revenue of 5.5k - 8.2k @ $6.90/cup
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To have a revenue of RM6-7k a day, they need to sell abt 1000 cups a day. Assuming the business is open for 12 hours a day, they need to sell 1.5 cups per minute starting from 9am - 9pm. From what you see at the store, is this happening every minute on everyday?

Assuming you open 365 days a year, and assuming your gross profit is 40%, and nett profit is 20%, you will need about 10-12 months to make back the invested capital. All these are assumptions, if you have the right figures, put it in and do your own calculation.

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QUOTE(SpringChill @ Dec 8 2011, 10:52 AM)
This is my personal opinion of the Chatime franchise. I see that the franchise owner is so willing is selling away franchise that it's ultimately hurting the brand itself. Kudos to him since he'll just be reaping the benefits of the royalties while owning the high traffic volume outlets such as Mid V and One Utama. But to the others who own supposedly 'second-tier' location, the ROI may take awhile or even worse negative returns. You can see how it's proliferating like mushrooms at almost every location such that the sales at such location are thinly spread.

I don't believe that the franchise owner works to protect the brand and its franchisee
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As i mentioned before, there is 6 chatime outlet in Subang! doh.gif

Chatime is totally different with Mcdonald franchise, they do a lot of market research before open a shop, strict R&R impose to each branch to maintain their image.

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To have a revenue of RM6-7k a day, they need to sell abt 1000 cups a day. Assuming the business is open for 12 hours a day, they need to sell 1.5 cups per minute starting from 9am - 9pm.  From what you see at the store, is this happening every minute on everyday?

Assuming you open 365 days a year, and assuming your gross profit is 40%, and nett profit is 20%, you will need about 10-12 months to make back the invested capital. All these are assumptions, if you have the right figures, put it in and do your own calculation.
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I read it in Personal Money Nov'11 issue, the owner manage to breakeven in 8 months time sweat.gif
i highly doubt those coming after would manage to score that
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ts, what do you think of biz famous for selling food made from leftover or not-so-fresh ingredients.
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that's the normal trend in m'sia doing f&b business

QUOTE(jitking @ Dec 8 2011, 10:35 AM)
For what I know, midvalley and the gardens Chatime is belonged to the owner (Bryan). Only second choice location are given out to others, which will cost around 400-500k including reno and equipment. So far, they growing so fast with vast opening of shops and the support of online media.

I dun understand why people are going crazy with it as Chatime doesn't do well in Taiwan (Closed many outlets). They are tagged with lower grade of milk tea by Taiwanese (This was told by my Taiwanese friend) There are much better of choice according to them.
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u r right bout the franchise fee which should b increasing next 2 rm500k or more

anyway chatime is long gone so called international business it has been closed in usa in san franscisco yrs ago same goes in australia as well

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To have a revenue of RM6-7k a day, they need to sell abt 1000 cups a day. Assuming the business is open for 12 hours a day, they need to sell 1.5 cups per minute starting from 9am - 9pm.  From what you see at the store, is this happening every minute on everyday?

Assuming you open 365 days a year, and assuming your gross profit is 40%, and nett profit is 20%, you will need about 10-12 months to make back the invested capital. All these are assumptions, if you have the right figures, put it in and do your own calculation.
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if any1 were running the business which such margin u would b closing down sooner than 3months

how can you do a f&b business wit such gross profit @ 40% n the net profit is 20% impossible doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

to put it this way f&b u hav many expenses bill like labor, machinery, stock, etc 40% can cover u nothin
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QUOTE(jitking @ Dec 8 2011, 10:35 AM)
For what I know, midvalley and the gardens Chatime is belonged to the owner (Bryan). Only second choice location are given out to others, which will cost around 400-500k including reno and equipment. So far, they growing so fast with vast opening of shops and the support of online media.

I dun understand why people are going crazy with it as Chatime doesn't do well in Taiwan (Closed many outlets). They are tagged with lower grade of milk tea by Taiwanese (This was told by my Taiwanese friend) There are much better of choice according to them.
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if any1 were running the business which such margin u would b closing down sooner than 3months

how can you do a f&b business wit such gross profit @ 40% n the net profit is 20% impossible doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

to put it this way f&b u hav many expenses bill like labor, machinery, stock, etc 40% can cover u nothin
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As I said, these are just assumptions. Put in your own figures if you think this is not correct. If 40% is not enough, what do you think is the right figure?

If you have followed the thread, we were talking about the condition that turnover is RM7k a day (don't ask me whether can achieve or not, i asked the same question to the originator of this suggested figure too). 7k x 30days = 210,000/month. x 40% = gross profit 84,000 - (Rental RM5,000 + Salary RM21,000 + Utilities RM1,000 + Franchise RM10,000 + Others RM5,000) = RM42,000/month nett profit. (which is 20% of turnover)

Using the above, breakeven in 10 months. Allow costs/profit variance of 5%, that's why I said the breakeven should take 10-12 months at a typical location, and with an invested capital of RM400k. Oh, also consider you have RM65k cash to run the business (half month of supplies).

If the actual gross profit is higher than 40%, that would make the breakeven point shorter.

The question is, whether can really achieve RM7k revenue (sell 1000 cups) per day or not? And whether the bubble-tea hype can last more than 1 year or not?

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QUOTE(jitking @ Dec 8 2011, 10:35 AM)
I dun understand why people are going crazy with it as Chatime doesn't do well in Taiwan (Closed many outlets). They are tagged with lower grade of milk tea by Taiwanese (This was told by my Taiwanese friend) There are much better of choice according to them.
Chatime is one of the biggest pearl milk tea companies in Taiwan. The reason they are not selling well in recent months is because of the DEHP scandal and the drinks served by Chatime along with a rival are found to contain DEHP.


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And whether the bubble-tea hype can last more than 1 year or not?
This Taiwanese pearl milk tea is absolutely nothing new, at least not in Kota Kinabalu. We already have Taiwanese pearl milk tea since 2002 or 2003 and they have since grown from just 1 shop to 5 shops today! The shops owner is a Taiwanese lady. If i'm not mistaken, she married a local Chinese.

Anyway, the hype is certainly still here sweat.gif

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