if yes what is their average monthly income?
when i say trading i dont mean long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading..
thank u in advance
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hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ??
if yes what is their average monthly income? when i say trading i dont mean long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading.. thank u in advance |
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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:06 PM) hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ?? for me, long term investment is more profitable. if yes what is their average monthly income? when i say trading i dont mean long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading.. thank u in advance full time trader (personal, not company) is quite hard i think. firstly you would need capital to invest. thats why u need to work 1st secondly, when the economy worsen or disasters happen and you dont get profit from your stocks, how to survive correct me if i'm wrong |
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QUOTE(richard0304 @ May 2 2011, 03:22 PM) for me, long term investment is more profitable. short term investment is notorious because it is very risky, and , u know wat, it is the high risk tat make short term investment more profitable.full time trader (personal, not company) is quite hard i think. firstly you would need capital to invest. thats why u need to work 1st secondly, when the economy worsen or disasters happen and you dont get profit from your stocks, how to survive correct me if i'm wrong in short : the higher risk it is, the more potential reward it is. firstly, i like long term investment as well, but u need considerable amount of capital in order to hv descent profit , this is why i opt to short term investment. 2ndly, ppl always goreng in stocks, that is why u can also make money even during economy crisis, but of course, not that much of chance lah.. |
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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:57 PM) short term investment is notorious because it is very risky, and , u know wat, it is the high risk tat make short term investment more profitable. Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade. in short : the higher risk it is, the more potential reward it is. firstly, i like long term investment as well, but u need considerable amount of capital in order to hv descent profit , this is why i opt to short term investment. 2ndly, ppl always goreng in stocks, that is why u can also make money even during economy crisis, but of course, not that much of chance lah.. Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences. |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 06:21 PM) Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade. totally agree Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences. |
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You need to pay the "tuition fee" in short term trading to appreciate the benefits of long term investment.
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 06:21 PM) Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade. day trading is too extreme for me, i never consider of doing day trading. i fancy trading which its duration around 5-10 days. Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences. Added on May 2, 2011, 11:22 pm QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 2 2011, 09:08 PM) You need to pay the "tuition fee" in short term trading to appreciate the benefits of long term investment. paying "tuition fee" is what i try to avoid. i practice n examine my strategy in previous shares' data , refine my tactic and then only i jump into the market. This post has been edited by gon3wooha: May 2 2011, 11:26 PM |
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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 11:18 PM) day trading is too extreme for me, i never consider of doing day trading. i fancy trading which its duration around 5-10 days. i think everyone who's new to the market will surely pay a fee for human emotions lol.Added on May 2, 2011, 11:22 pm paying "tuition fee" is what i try to avoid. i practice n examine my strategy in previous shares' data , refine my tactic and then only i jump into the market. for me i divide the portfolio into a few long n some short term strats, active that time then quite often do short term trading, market hot hot that time then sometimes daytrade with the spare cash. market no good then switch back to cash n bunker. i havent heard of a full time trader but from my experience, it's workable.. just need to diversify to other markets than KLSE just because KLSE isn't dynamic enough. |
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dont forget you need to pay your broker commission every time u buy or sell
not really worth it if u keep on buying and selling while the profit is just little |
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I think you can be a full time trader and earn consistent income if you trade in multiple markets. Trading only in Bursa will not survive as we can only play long but not short. Being able to play long and short ensure you to be able to beat the market, else what you going to eat in recession year when all markets are down?
Also I think education on stock market know how is also very important just like you need to get an engineering degree before you can do engineering work. You may argue those Ahmad, Ah Beng or Muthusamy got no education but still earn good money doing construction work but they have gone through the ropes for many years before they aree successful. So either you use the money for education or you use the trial and error (hard knock way - lose a lot of money in stock market) before you can be consistently profitable. Good luck! |
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QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:06 PM) hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ?? My 28 year old friend trades forex from home.....today, his own cash money in broker and trade daily near to USD 450K already....not to mention other assets he got.....if yes what is their average monthly income? when i say trading i dont mean long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading.. thank u in advance |
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everbody has to endure failures and pains before reaping any success. OR even making tons of money.
People only share their success, but rarely mention the hardship that they went through. NO gain without pain. |
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QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 11:35 PM) yes QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 2 2011, 11:58 PM) i think everyone who's new to the market will surely pay a fee for human emotions lol. for me i divide the portfolio into a few long n some short term strats, active that time then quite often do short term trading, market hot hot that time then sometimes daytrade with the spare cash. market no good then switch back to cash n bunker. i havent heard of a full time trader but from my experience, it's workable.. just need to diversify to other markets than KLSE just because KLSE isn't dynamic enough. what do u mean by "dynamic"? volume not great enough? my plan is to target those shares in 10 top active list. even though when the market is cool, still there r somebody goreng (i think this is why still there r stocks which r very active for week, if not weeks) . i plan to spot the trend,of course, short term one, and then ride the trend, and then QUOTE(richard0304 @ May 3 2011, 12:02 AM) dont forget you need to pay your broker commission every time u buy or sell not really worth it if u keep on buying and selling while the profit is just little QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 3 2011, 01:27 AM) I never plan a day trade... If it happen It will be just a coincidence . ( I will sell if the share had moved more than 5% and I had purchase a substantial shares say RM 50K) seems like u r, partly, short term trader as well. My trade are mostly planned for 22 trading days . Only Some time I keep the share to 50 trading days. My plan is to earn more than 5% a month. To leverage I have most of my share in the margin a/c. I also had allocated some fund for a very long term trade. I have MFLOUR that I had kept for 6 years now. I just started to collect a few MAXIS for the long term portfolio. Even if these share are for long term I always have a sale order ready for them in case there is a spike. I use to keep HTPADU for 3 years. TM and Tenaga for many years Regards even though i m a short term trader, i m largely influenced by Warren Buffet. i practice his rule: not lending money.. QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 3 2011, 10:06 AM) I think you can be a full time trader and earn consistent income if you trade in multiple markets. Trading only in Bursa will not survive as we can only play long but not short. Being able to play long and short ensure you to be able to beat the market, else what you going to eat in recession year when all markets are down? thank u. are u a short term trader as well? Also I think education on stock market know how is also very important just like you need to get an engineering degree before you can do engineering work. You may argue those Ahmad, Ah Beng or Muthusamy got no education but still earn good money doing construction work but they have gone through the ropes for many years before they aree successful. So either you use the money for education or you use the trial and error (hard knock way - lose a lot of money in stock market) before you can be consistently profitable. Good luck! QUOTE(pakdamek @ May 3 2011, 10:10 AM) My 28 year old friend trades forex from home.....today, his own cash money in broker and trade daily near to USD 450K already....not to mention other assets he got..... it changes my view on FOREX as i thought it is not that profitable since it is not volatile. since when he started to play forex?? |
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