Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

3 Pages  1 2 3 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 full-time trader

views
     
TSgon3wooha
post May 2 2011, 03:06 PM, updated 15y ago

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
64 posts

Joined: Apr 2011
hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ??

if yes what is their average monthly income?

when i say trading i dont mean long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading..

thank u in advance smile.gif
richard0304
post May 2 2011, 03:22 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
193 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: 鸟不生蛋的地方


QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:06 PM)
hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ??

if yes what is their average monthly income?

when i say trading i dont mean  long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading..

thank u in advance smile.gif
*
for me, long term investment is more profitable.

full time trader (personal, not company) is quite hard i think.
firstly you would need capital to invest. thats why u need to work 1st
secondly, when the economy worsen or disasters happen and you dont get profit from your stocks, how to survive

correct me if i'm wrong notworthy.gif
TSgon3wooha
post May 2 2011, 03:57 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
64 posts

Joined: Apr 2011
QUOTE(richard0304 @ May 2 2011, 03:22 PM)
for me, long term investment is more profitable.

full time trader (personal, not company) is quite hard i think.
firstly you would need capital to invest. thats why u need to work 1st
secondly, when the economy worsen or disasters happen and you dont get profit from your stocks, how to survive

correct me if i'm wrong  notworthy.gif
*
short term investment is notorious because it is very risky, and , u know wat, it is the high risk tat make short term investment more profitable.
in short : the higher risk it is, the more potential reward it is.

firstly, i like long term investment as well, but u need considerable amount of capital in order to hv descent profit , this is why i opt to short term investment.

2ndly, ppl always goreng in stocks, that is why u can also make money even during economy crisis, but of course, not that much of chance lah..

smile.gif
Icehart
post May 2 2011, 06:21 PM

72.55.191.6
********
All Stars
14,905 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Kuala Lumpur & Selangor


QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:57 PM)
short term investment is notorious because it is very risky, and , u know wat, it is the high risk tat make short term investment more profitable.
in short : the higher risk it is, the more potential reward it is.

firstly, i like long term investment as well, but u need considerable amount of capital in order to hv descent profit , this is why i opt to short term investment.

2ndly, ppl always goreng in stocks, that is why u can also make money even during economy crisis, but of course, not that much of chance lah..

smile.gif
*
Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade.

Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences. smile.gif
richard0304
post May 2 2011, 06:42 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
193 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: 鸟不生蛋的地方


QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 06:21 PM)
Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade.

Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences.  smile.gif
*
totally agree rclxms.gif
simplesmile
post May 2 2011, 09:08 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,991 posts

Joined: Jun 2007


You need to pay the "tuition fee" in short term trading to appreciate the benefits of long term investment.
TSgon3wooha
post May 2 2011, 11:18 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
64 posts

Joined: Apr 2011
QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 06:21 PM)
Full time trader can earn up to 10k a month with a capital of 15k, that is with contra and cash multiplication. Since they are trader, they usually settle their contract by the end of the trading day (even at loss) or hold until tomorrow if the prospect is good. I used to be a full time trader before, some months I make good money and some months I eat roti kosong - especially if market is going south. At the end, I measure my performance against putting money in long term investment and from what I can see, long term investment yields more money and it's less risky. I don't have to commit to look at trading screen for the whole day to day trade.

Anyway, some can survive and make a wealthy progress from trading day by day while some makes too with long term investment. It's just a matter of personal preferences.  smile.gif
*
day trading is too extreme for me, i never consider of doing day trading. i fancy trading which its duration around 5-10 days. smile.gif


Added on May 2, 2011, 11:22 pm
QUOTE(simplesmile @ May 2 2011, 09:08 PM)
You need to pay the "tuition fee" in short term trading to appreciate the benefits of long term investment.
*
laugh.gif
paying "tuition fee" is what i try to avoid. i practice n examine my strategy in previous shares' data , refine my tactic and then only i jump into the market.

This post has been edited by gon3wooha: May 2 2011, 11:26 PM
Icehart
post May 2 2011, 11:35 PM

72.55.191.6
********
All Stars
14,905 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Kuala Lumpur & Selangor


QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 11:18 PM)
day trading is too extreme for me, i never consider of doing day trading. i fancy trading which its duration around 5-10 days. smile.gif
*
Short term trader? biggrin.gif
teehk_tee
post May 2 2011, 11:58 PM

ไม่เป็นไร
*******
Senior Member
5,363 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: กรุงเทพมหานคร BKK

QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 11:18 PM)
day trading is too extreme for me, i never consider of doing day trading. i fancy trading which its duration around 5-10 days. smile.gif


Added on May 2, 2011, 11:22 pm

laugh.gif
paying "tuition fee" is what i try to avoid. i practice n examine my strategy in previous shares' data , refine my tactic and then only i jump into the market.
*
i think everyone who's new to the market will surely pay a fee for human emotions lol.

for me i divide the portfolio into a few long n some short term strats, active that time then quite often do short term trading, market hot hot that time then sometimes daytrade with the spare cash. market no good then switch back to cash n bunker. biggrin.gif

i havent heard of a full time trader but from my experience, it's workable.. just need to diversify to other markets than KLSE just because KLSE isn't dynamic enough.
richard0304
post May 3 2011, 12:02 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
193 posts

Joined: Aug 2007
From: 鸟不生蛋的地方


dont forget you need to pay your broker commission every time u buy or sell

not really worth it if u keep on buying and selling while the profit is just little
rosdi1
post May 3 2011, 01:27 AM

Cari makan
*******
Senior Member
2,211 posts

Joined: Sep 2009
From: Kuala Lumpur


deleted
Regards

This post has been edited by rosdi1: May 3 2011, 01:09 PM
escargo75
post May 3 2011, 10:06 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
630 posts

Joined: Oct 2010


I think you can be a full time trader and earn consistent income if you trade in multiple markets. Trading only in Bursa will not survive as we can only play long but not short. Being able to play long and short ensure you to be able to beat the market, else what you going to eat in recession year when all markets are down? sweat.gif But still you need to have substantial capital to play in different markets. So for a start, save money every months to build your capital before starting the journey.

Also I think education on stock market know how is also very important just like you need to get an engineering degree before you can do engineering work. You may argue those Ahmad, Ah Beng or Muthusamy got no education but still earn good money doing construction work but they have gone through the ropes for many years before they aree successful. So either you use the money for education or you use the trial and error (hard knock way - lose a lot of money in stock market) before you can be consistently profitable.

Good luck!
pakdamek
post May 3 2011, 10:10 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
646 posts

Joined: May 2006
QUOTE(gon3wooha @ May 2 2011, 03:06 PM)
hv u guys heard about full-time trader full make money by doing trading in home ??

if yes what is their average monthly income?

when i say trading i dont mean  long term trading like fundamental investing ,not day trading as well, i mean momemtum trading, "goreng", and other short term trading..

thank u in advance smile.gif
*
My 28 year old friend trades forex from home.....today, his own cash money in broker and trade daily near to USD 450K already....not to mention other assets he got.....
nasni
post May 3 2011, 10:38 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,675 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: KUL


everbody has to endure failures and pains before reaping any success. OR even making tons of money.

People only share their success, but rarely mention the hardship that they went through.


NO gain without pain.


Icehart
post May 3 2011, 10:40 AM

72.55.191.6
********
All Stars
14,905 posts

Joined: Apr 2005
From: Kuala Lumpur & Selangor


QUOTE(nasni @ May 3 2011, 10:38 AM)
everbody has to endure failures and pains before reaping any success. OR even making tons of money.

People only share their success, but rarely mention the hardship that they went through.
NO gain without pain.
*
Quite true. laugh.gif
sharesa
post May 3 2011, 10:54 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,587 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: KL


delete

This post has been edited by sharesa: May 3 2011, 10:54 AM
TSgon3wooha
post May 3 2011, 11:16 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
64 posts

Joined: Apr 2011
QUOTE(Icehart @ May 2 2011, 11:35 PM)
Short term trader?  biggrin.gif
*
yes cool2.gif




QUOTE(teehk_tee @ May 2 2011, 11:58 PM)
i think everyone who's new to the market will surely pay a fee for human emotions lol.

for me i divide the portfolio into a few long n some short term strats, active that time then quite often do short term trading, market hot hot that time then sometimes daytrade with the spare cash. market no good then switch back to cash n bunker. biggrin.gif

i havent heard of a full time trader but from my experience, it's workable.. just need to diversify to other markets than KLSE just because KLSE isn't dynamic enough.
*
nod.gif ya, it is true ,especially for those who buy on the market ,not on the company. i learn this sentence fr Warren Buffet.. laugh.gif

what do u mean by "dynamic"? volume not great enough?
my plan is to target those shares in 10 top active list. even though when the market is cool, still there r somebody goreng (i think this is why still there r stocks which r very active for week, if not weeks) . i plan to spot the trend,of course, short term one, and then ride the trend, and then rclxm9.gif .





QUOTE(richard0304 @ May 3 2011, 12:02 AM)
dont forget you need to pay your broker commission every time u buy or sell

not really worth it if u keep on buying and selling while the profit is just little
*
nod.gif ya, winning by too small capital, after minus broker fee , stem fee,.... can only earn u 1 or 2 roti canai



QUOTE(rosdi1 @ May 3 2011, 01:27 AM)
I never plan a day trade... If it happen It will be just a coincidence . ( I will sell if the share had moved more than 5% and I had purchase a substantial shares say RM 50K)
My trade are mostly planned  for 22 trading days . Only Some time I keep the share to 50 trading days.
My plan is to earn more than 5% a month. To leverage I have most of my share in the margin a/c.

I also had allocated some fund for a very long term trade.  I have MFLOUR that I had kept for 6 years now. I just started to collect a few MAXIS for the long term portfolio.
Even if these share are for long term I always have a sale order ready for them in case there is a spike.
I use to keep HTPADU for 3 years. TM and Tenaga for many years
Regards
*
seems like u r, partly, short term trader as well.

even though i m a short term trader, i m largely influenced by Warren Buffet. i practice his rule: not lending money..


QUOTE(escargo75 @ May 3 2011, 10:06 AM)
I think you can be a full time trader and earn consistent income if you trade in multiple markets. Trading only in Bursa will not survive as we can only play long but not short. Being able to play long and short ensure you to be able to beat the market, else what you going to eat in recession year when all markets are down?  sweat.gif  But still you need to have substantial capital to play in different markets. So for a start, save money every months to build your capital before starting the journey.

Also I think education on stock market know how is also very important just like you need to get an engineering degree before you can do engineering work. You may argue those Ahmad, Ah Beng or Muthusamy got no education but still earn good money doing construction work but they have gone through the ropes for many years before they aree successful. So either you use the money for education or you use the trial and error (hard knock way - lose a lot of money in stock market) before you can be consistently profitable.

Good luck!
*
thank u. are u a short term trader as well?




QUOTE(pakdamek @ May 3 2011, 10:10 AM)
My 28 year old friend trades forex from home.....today, his own cash money in broker and trade daily near to USD 450K already....not to mention other assets he got.....
*
it changes my view on FOREX as i thought it is not that profitable since it is not volatile. since when he started to play forex??
fttrader
post Jul 29 2012, 06:41 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
35 posts

Joined: Jul 2012
hmm.gif not to be tempted by just the figs or the "success" side of story. Being a full time trader takes a lot of works and perseverance. not to mention mental strength.

This post has been edited by fttrader: Jul 29 2012, 06:46 PM
Patrick-Star
post Jul 29 2012, 11:50 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
80 posts

Joined: Feb 2012
If you have to ask, then your not ready !!!
asambuffett
post Jul 29 2012, 11:57 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
476 posts

Joined: Aug 2008
deleted

due to uninspiring comment on day / short term doh.gif trading

This post has been edited by asambuffett: Jul 30 2012, 12:53 AM

3 Pages  1 2 3 >Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0202sec    0.48    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 24th December 2025 - 09:25 AM