What u mean there are stuff that goes even deeper?
Guess i've been using the term wrongly all the while...

What kinda phones are u looking for?
full-sized headphones, portable headphones, clip-ons, earphones, canalphones?
If they must be canalphones, i guess u could try the Edifier H260
Clip-ons, get the KSC-75

Btw, isnt the CM7 quite a bit more than RM200?

You have gotta try some other phones then
The HP1000 has a noticably worse seperation and soundstage compared to a HD595
And the HD595 isnt really great in soundstaging

I guess me and that person have different ears, lets just leave it at that

But my testing was done only through a crappy Edifier amp, which is basically no amping
But it should apply to LittleGhost anyways, since he's running unamped too

Who knows, perhaps after a nice amp it'll be good to compare with a HDXX0

Btw, u guys need to learn to lighten up
Where's the fun in being nice to everyone?

I wouldnt know, never tried the K701
Dont really intend to either, doesnt seem to be something i'd like

Problem here in the Audiophiles section, say something just a little not nice and ppl start going "guys, calm down!"

Yeah the EX71 has a really short cable, but other than that i wouldnt really recommend it
Settle for the other choices instead, a longer cable wont be that irritating once u get used to it

Oh!
Just realised from your sig that you have a PA2V2 !
Lol, i thought u were running unamped...

Does the amp give a big improvement to the HP1000?

Simply based on what you prefer

Some ppl want them small, so they dont look weird so they go for earphones
Some ppl dont mind looking like an alien, so they get some clip-ons (KSC-75 )
Some ppl dont mind lugging some weight around, so they get full sized headphones. Or rather they're using them at home, and comfort is a big issue
Some ppl want noise isolation, perhaps they take the bus/train while listening, so they go for canalphones

And some ppl like me with spectacles simply cannot stand behind-the-neck phones...I actually broke a pair out of frustration

Yeah they do
Try checking with Sony Wings or whatever the Sony shop is called
But they're pretty expensive for rubber buds, if i recall correctly

Might wanna just ask around if there are ppl not using the size that you're looking for and ask them to donate

Now how does the ER4 fit anywhere near your RM400 budget?

Get the Altec Lansing IM716 instead if u can order it from overseas

No its not anywhere near waayyy over

Check Amazon.com
You just need someone there too ship it to you here

Why would u wanna buy from ebay anyway?

This post has been edited by KilJim: Jul 10 2006, 11:30 PM

If you're nice enough you may be able to get someone to help out
Hehe, just be resourceful enough if you really want them

If not just the the ER-6i la
Had them before, pretty good other than the lacking bass and impact
If bass is important to you just forget them. Probably forget the ER4 altogether

Wait a min, i'm getting irritated by his spamming too
The Altec Lansings are supposed to be by Etymotic actually, that's why they're good
Initial rumors were that they're the exact same thing as the ER-4, but now its supposed to be a little inferior but pretty good
Plus it has a "bass mode" or something that u can switch for added bass, suitable for the mainstream market i guess

What kinda IEMs are u looking for?

There arent really any good headphones with a mic
Perhaps u can get a proper non-mic headphone, and get a seperate cheap mic headphone for the mic alone

You probably cant have sound canceling, but passive noise reduction will do as good a job or probably even better with the canalphones

And your ranking is pretty screwed up man...why are all the Etymotics at the highest on the list?

The normal recommendations are :
Philips HP805 - Full sized headphones
Koss KSC-75 - Clip-ons, portables but worthy enough to be used at home
Not too sure how they fare with each other since i only have the ksc-75
Nah, upping a little to RM150 wont help, no other choices
Unless if you'll consider 2nd hand stuff, then u can get a HP-895/890

Which is why i said his rankings are screwed up, dont bother about that
You get isolation, its not those active noise cancelation phones.
No, you need to read Alamak's post again...
He said you either get clear with little bass or bassy with rolled off highs
Basically the opposite of each other's sound, not that all IEMs are the first option

The Sonys should be of the bassy one, if its anything like the EX71 it'll be pretty muffled though, that's the main thing you might dislike
Plus they dont isolate near as much as the Etymotics

He's asking about the headphones not amp
I've never tried the 555 or Aurilium too, so not much to comment on there


Generally the oppinions are :
1. Might be lacking in bass. Comfortable. Light-weight
2. Retail is more, so dont bother getting from other places if u can get them from him or mike
3. Yes it "powerful enough", of course just like all other headphones, they'll be better wih an amp. If u have the extra cash get a LDM or something, if not they'll be fine without an amp too

Doh, tell la earlier
Try the Philips HP-895 for full sized cans or a Koss KSC-75 under RM100 for clip-ons

There are no headphones that "need" an amp to power them
What, no sound will come out without an amp?
The difference is how much improvement an amp would make

And all budget phones dont benefit much from amps, so you're safe at that budget

Sometimes the technicallity doesnt hold, depending on the user
empire enjoyed his HD650 unamped for quite some time yah

Another "regardless of budget" question on recommendations...
It'll just be wasting our time listing the thousand USD phones when in the end you will ask for something cheaper

Unless if you're just asking for the info for some research or something

The PX100 wasnt exactly portable enough to be kept in the pocket IMO
It's about the size of a spectacles case
Well, can be kept in the pocket if u dont mind it bulging out like that la

Not that the PX100 is worst, just that it has a different kinda sound

Trance addict?
You might have done better with the PX100 instead