edited: i also would like to point out that when warpgate research time is increased to 180 sec, by the time it is finished the terran would already have stimpack (which in the previous patch stimpack time research was increased where 4 gating a terran is relatively easier)

I am a protoss player, u see, the say i have is archons now cannot be slowed by marauders, which is good, consider archons do extra dmg to bio, especially to M&M bioball, a good buff

warp gate research time increase, which does not affect me much, cuz i try to train up my macro now in most pvt and pvz, but in pvp, i have to rethink my strategy, perhaps skip the 1st zealot and chronoboasting some stalkers for early pressure would seem necessary, i saw this in HD world tournament demonstrated by Axslav v Socke even though they did this in 1.3.2, not a very successful pressure but yet they incorporate this early pressure build into their play

well, train time for zealot decrease, i expect more protoss cheese coming to me, and i know ways to defend them, just doesnt know which is the best still, becuz i cant keep my calm every time i see cheese

well, to defend a 6 pool in 1.3.3, is easy now, no need forge, just wall off your entrance with 2 gates and leave 1 gap for your zealot, and chronoboast your zealot, the 1st gate should be built not leaning the ledge, to let your zealot comes out immediate to the gap without taking a good old marry go round. but this has to depend on map, smaller map with close spawn u might need some probes to block the gap until your zealot comes out, microing some low hp probes bit by zergling back to the mineral line with mineral pathing would be necessary

no comments on other changes




This post has been edited by pepsi89: May 1 2011, 10:42 PM

Well the warp gate nerf is big.
The 3 gate pressure is a big part to punish terran if they 1 racks expand or rising to tech while you safely expand behind it

4 gates will be very rare in PvP

dayumm.. this is not good.. not good at all.. fml

i agree on this, or perhaps if the terran go banshee rush i might not manage to 4 gate the terran in time, especially if i did not manage to steal the gas of the terran early on

if terran go banshee rush, you shouldnt 4 gate at all, you have robo build, stargate build, TC build.... it was like this since forever till you all can forcefield the bunkers which is broken. QQQQ

u will never know if your opponent goes for banshee rush if he wall off his entrance, or the map is too big for your obs to travel there and by the time your obs reaches there, the banshee attack imminent

i have no problem in 4 gating my opponent who goes for banshee rush (well, my main objective is to see what kind of unit composition he has while i reach his base), with only 1 time fail which i didnt manage to steal his gas. perhaps i just like to play a fast game instead, i hate to scramble my units here and there to fend off banshee especially if i have 2 bases and the obs is so slow to chase a banshee and forced to train more obs, and yet i hate robo units vs terran where if i go colussi, most terran will just go mass maurader, when u see this and u decide to get immortals, they will just to add some marines in some of his unit composition, and also i gate viking sniping down my colussi, which hardly can fend off without amulet research from high templar to storm the vikings more easily

i also would like to point out that when warpgate research time is increased to 180 sec, by the time it is finished the terran would already have stimpack (which in the previous patch stimpack time research was increased where 4 gating a terran is relatively easy)

if you see a wall off with reactored barracks and bunker. rest assure you, banshee.

Protoss nerf on warp gate but buff on build time = u will see more protoss goes for proxy gateway.

^ this
u can know what is he going for based on his army comp when u poke his ramp...
if he dun react, u can apply tonnes of pressure...

Agree, it will be tempting too since every other build has changed. But it will even out with time I'm sure

some players would wall off with a bunker/s and/or supply depot/s and build barrack behind it, so u cant see whether if he banshee rushes u or fast expand with another CC, but either way 4 gates will work best in this situation, but u have to get sentries earlier to make sure they have enough energies. another way, work best in metalopolis, 3 gates with void rays

4 gates work best in all situation. true story.

at least it will get anybody to at least diamond league

QQ

can anybody know how to def a fast zealot build as a zerg? =( i means proxy gateway

One spine crawler.

1) scout around your base at around 10-13 supply (normally solves most of the problem) then aim down the probe/pylon with about 4 drones per building and 1 drone per probe.

2) if the gate is up, your pool should be done soon too, get 1 spine in your mineral line, micro your drone and lings to defend the spine till its up. when its up, you are safe.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: May 4 2011, 05:16 PM

dun really need to scout around base when u got overlords...
if u open with pool first u are safe vs ling rush...

Updated patch 1.3.3 (03/05/2011)

General

* The default hotkey to toggle in-game music on/off has been reverted to its hotkey prior to Patch 1.3.0. The hotkey to display APM in the observer stat panel has been changed as a result.



Balance

* PROTOSS

o Archon

+ Now a Massive unit.

+ Range increased from 2 to 3.

o Cybernetics Core

+ Research Warp Gate time increased from 140 to 160.

o Gateway

+ Sentry train time decreased from 42 to 37.

+ Warp Gate unit train times remain unchanged.

o Pylon power radius has been decreased from 7.5 to 6.5.


* TERRAN

o Bunker

+ Salvage resource return reduced from 100% to 75%.

o Ghost

+ Cost changed from 150/150 to 200/100.

o Thor

+ Thor now has 200 max energy, and starts with 50 energy.

+ 250mm Strike Cannons now cost 150 energy to use (cooldown removed).


* ZERG

o Infestor

+ Speed decreased from 2.5 to 2.25.

o Spore Crawler

+ Root time decreased from 12 to 6.



Bug Fixes

* Fixed an issue where Ghosts could not quickly EMP the same location.

* Fixed an issue that allowed players to stack air units when issuing a queued stop command before the units reached the end of their patrol point.

* Fixed an issue where unplugging your USB headset while another player was talking to you could cause a crash.

* Fixed an issue where the APM statistic could be artificially increased.

* Fixed an issue where 3D unit portraits were not animating smoothly at slow game speeds.

* Fixed an issue where, when viewing a replay, no text message was displayed when a player left a game.

* The Taiwanese hotkey to display/hide the game UI while in Observer mode now works correctly.

This post has been edited by XenoFr3ak: May 4 2011, 07:02 PM