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mizi28
post Aug 31 2011, 06:44 AM

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great review and great monitor but its size is the main issue.due to small space of my working table.

bx2231 has ideal size for my preference...
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post Aug 31 2011, 08:47 AM

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Bro, LED version arrived liao. U2312HM @RM864. sad.gif
I think too expensive, sure Dell will offer discount and coupons.
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post Aug 31 2011, 12:16 PM

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to all U2311H user.

usually how far is your eye distance from the monitor?
my workplace is abit narrow.this huge monitor maybe not suitable for my table.


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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 08:47 AM)
Bro, LED version arrived liao. U2312HM @RM864. sad.gif
I think too expensive, sure Dell will offer discount and coupons.
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That's pretty pricey. I'd pay an extra RM30 for the U2412M for the larger resolution hmm.gif.

QUOTE(mizi28 @ Aug 31 2011, 12:16 PM)
to all U2311H user.

usually how far is your eye distance from the monitor?
my workplace is abit narrow.this huge monitor maybe not suitable for my table.
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I view my U2311H from about 56CM away ( measured from the front side of the stand ). It's fine but I'd say that you'll want at least 60CM away from it for maximum comfort.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 08:47 AM)
Bro, LED version arrived liao. U2312HM @RM864. sad.gif
I think too expensive, sure Dell will offer discount and coupons.
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it still too new, i guess they want to clean u2311h stock first tongue.gif, after few month it will priced as u2311h pricing
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post Aug 31 2011, 12:56 PM

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pic above is the dimension of my workplace.very limited...
my main concern is viewing distance, because when i look at my friend monitor(Samsung 23" in pic) i feel uncomfortable.

great monitor but major setback.shall i proceed?

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What sort of chair are you using? And do you usually look at your monitor from the top down or straight or from the bottom up?

What screen are you using anyway?
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post Aug 31 2011, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Aug 31 2011, 01:14 PM)
What sort of chair are you using? And do you usually look at your monitor from the top down or straight or from the bottom up?

What screen are you using anyway?
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i usually look straight at the monitor and i use chair as you can see in the pic.
what do you think? isn't it too near?
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post Aug 31 2011, 07:48 PM

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You should raise your chair up so you're viewing the monitor from the top. It will help in terms of comfort.

Anyway, you can use a Dell U2311H comfortably with your workstation if you decide to use it without its stand. You can prop it against the wall, angle it slightly facing upwards and put something heavy at the base to prevent it from slipping.
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Aug 31 2011, 07:23 PM)
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i usually look straight at the monitor and i use chair as you can see in the pic.
what do you think? isn't it too near?
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Raise your chair, put a small little stool to put your feet onto comfortable position, that way you won't sit until your whole lower leg goes numb.
And that position is for watching movie? Or working? I think it's fine with watching movie in relax position but not ideal for working.
Distance from the monitor is fine as that, I came a little close when I type this and a little further when I watching movie.
You can consider a move-able table (wheels) that slide between your leg and the table height, there you put your keyboard and mouse, and you can sit further away while still able to reach your keyboard and mouse comfortably.
Usual computer desk has slider to put the keyboard and/or mouse for this purpose.
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currently using samsung px2370,planing change to dell 24",is that worth ?
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QUOTE(LancerGT @ Sep 1 2011, 09:12 PM)
currently using samsung px2370,planing change to dell 24",is that worth ?
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It's up to you to answer that question.

If you are referring to the Dell U2412M, then it could be worth it if the benefits of having a monitor with an e-IPS panel over monitors with TN panels appeal to you.
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guys.. i bought a display port to hdmi port cable. obviously connect dp port in the monitor and hdmi on my ati 6850. but it seems like cannot detect my gc, an error msg saying there is no signal coming from my pc.

help.. thanks..
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 31 2011, 08:47 AM)
Bro, LED version arrived liao. U2312HM @RM864. sad.gif
I think too expensive, sure Dell will offer discount and coupons.
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go look at the small and medium business section in Dell's online store, the U2312HM is priced at RM649 and i found sellers in the garage sales section that can also give such competitive pricing

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Aug 31 2011, 12:20 PM)
That's pretty pricey. I'd pay an extra RM30 for the U2412M for the larger resolution hmm.gif.
I view my U2311H from about 56CM away ( measured from the front side of the stand ). It's fine but I'd say that you'll want at least 60CM away from it for maximum comfort.
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for the U2412M, you can use this coupon (JFDLCN701KHK0S) to get a further RM150 discount (but i think the code is expiring soon)

QUOTE(chaics85 @ Sep 5 2011, 10:52 PM)
guys.. i bought a display port to hdmi port cable. obviously connect dp port in the monitor and hdmi on my ati 6850. but it seems like cannot detect my gc, an error msg saying there is no signal coming from my pc.

help.. thanks..
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not really sure whats the problem, but i have read ppl facing problems with DP->HDMI / DP->DVI converters b4 and most of them are pointing the finger at AMD as a driver issue. but could be wrong here.

This post has been edited by Raki: Sep 6 2011, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE(Raki @ Sep 6 2011, 05:01 AM)
for the U2412M, you can use this coupon (JFDLCN701KHK0S) to get a further RM150 discount (but i think the code is expiring soon)
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Expiring on 8th Sept. I already got one last week laugh.gif
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QUOTE(chaics85 @ Sep 5 2011, 10:52 PM)
guys.. i bought a display port to hdmi port cable. obviously connect dp port in the monitor and hdmi on my ati 6850. but it seems like cannot detect my gc, an error msg saying there is no signal coming from my pc.

help.. thanks..
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Are yours DP > HDMI active or passive converter? Normal graphics card does not output DP signal through their HDMI and vice versa. DP and HDMI are 2 distinct technology and different protocol so you need active converter to do so.
Passive converter usually just a 2 heads and plugs, while active converter require some sort of adapter and require power source to power the adapter (5v USB cables, etc.).

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post Sep 6 2011, 11:07 AM

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mine is something like this..
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mind telling me whats the purpose of this cable if its not for connecting dp port to hdmi port? kinda noob..

i thought it can be use.. doh.gif
btw, what if i connect this cable to u2311h with a ps3? will it work??
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QUOTE(chaics85 @ Sep 6 2011, 11:07 AM)
mine is something like this..
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mind telling me whats the purpose of this cable if its not for connecting dp port to hdmi port? kinda noob..

i thought it can be use..  doh.gif
btw, what if i connect this cable to u2311h with a ps3? will it work??
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I don't think this is an active converter, like I said, normal HDMI output won't carry DP signal so no it won't work out of the box, you need a HDMI > DP active converter to do so, and unfortunately your cable might went to waste, or sell it off to someone whom might find it useful (rare case).
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post Sep 6 2011, 02:00 PM

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cry.gif money wasted... i always thought it can be used.. doh.gif

btw, anyone using this u2311h with ps3 and pc? how do u guys connect it? planning to get a ps3 soon.. thanks..
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QUOTE(chaics85 @ Sep 6 2011, 11:07 AM)
mine is something like this..
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mind telling me whats the purpose of this cable if its not for connecting dp port to hdmi port? kinda noob..

i thought it can be use..  doh.gif
btw, what if i connect this cable to u2311h with a ps3? will it work??
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you got ur tech wrong here.

after reading over ur post. I see that what you have there is a DP to HDMI cable (its doesn't work the other way around)

Here a quote from DP official website
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DisplayPort-to-HDMI adaptors and DisplayPort-to-DVI adapters are very simple and only operate one way. For instance, when a DP-to-HDMI adaptor is connected to a PC that supports DP++ (multimode) capability, the PC senses the presence of the adaptor and sends HDMI signals over the DisplayPort connector rather than DisplayPort signals. No signal conversion is performed by the HDM adaptor. HDMI signals are merely passed through. The unique DisplayPort adaptor capability enables the PC to connect to a variety of displays via the DisplayPort connector including HDMI, DVI, and VGA. VGA adaptors are more complex and perform active signal conversion from DisplayPort to VGA. These adaptors also operate only one way. Unfortunately, HDMI does not support conversion to other display formats as does DisplayPort.


Simply put, HDMI output can is not compatible to handle any DP output. (a totally different technology)

How different you might ask,
quote from wikipedia
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unlike DVI/HDMI and LVDS standards where differential pairs(connectors) are fixed to transmitting RGB pixels and a clock signal, the DisplayPort protocol is based on small data packets(similar to other data communication protocols such as Ethernet, USB, and PCI Express) with clock embedded (self-clocking rather than clock signal provided by the GC).


So whats the point of the passive and active converter?
If you still haven't realise after reading the quote from DisplayPort official website,

A DisplayPort++ (output from GC not input DP on monitor as it only handle data packets and does not convert the signal. thats ur GC's job) supports 2 modes: The native packetized data transmission mode and a dual-mode that generates transition minimized differential signalling (TMDS) and clock for single-link DVI/HDMI signalling with an external simple line-level conversion dongle to properly convert to the respective DVI or HDMI standard.

The active converters are needed when you need a dual-link DVI (DP can only provide single link DVI) or analog VGA because of the perform active conversion. Because the DP output port from the GC will be transmitting in data packets and the converter does all the conversation to RGB.
While passive converters rely on the GC to transmit RGB first to work properly.

So why are there active DP to DVI-D(single link) adapters? since only dual link needs active conversations.
Answer: Eyefinity

As passive works at switching DP to DVI (single link) or HDMI, but only if the other two sets of TMDS are not being used on each graphic card unit, it can also be used to drive a VGA monitor, but once again, as long as the other two RAMDACs are not being used.

Why is that so?
Remember when I say DP is "self-clocking rather than clock signal provided by the GC". Thats the reason.

Why?
Because each GC can provide 2 clock signals and when DP goes into dual port mode with passive adapters, it does not use DP's embedded clock but uses one of the GC's. Hence why active adapters are used in eyefinity scenerios.

Conclusion,
As far as I know, there no such thing a HDMI to DP adapter (maybe I'm wrong) since both transmissions are different.
Passive adapters can be use when no more than 2 monitors are connected to 1 single GC
Active adapters must be use when more than 2 of any passive adapters or dvi or hdmi is used on one single GC or u need to convert from DP to dual link DVI or VGA


QUOTE(chaics85 @ Sep 6 2011, 02:00 PM)
cry.gif money wasted... i always thought it can be used..  doh.gif

btw, anyone using this u2311h with ps3 and pc? how do u guys connect it? planning to get a ps3 soon.. thanks..
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DVI to anything else except DP tongue.gif since U2311H 's DVI port does support HDCP input

This post has been edited by Raki: Sep 7 2011, 11:41 AM

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