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post May 26 2011, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Breakers @ May 26 2011, 03:46 PM)
no more free cert and key from opda leh... how.. sad.gif
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Really? Just apply 2 last week and downloaded it this week. Just wait a week before they allow free user to download.
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QUOTE(apecx92 @ May 26 2011, 05:30 PM)
need to hack the bootloader first to overclocked

but until now no one manage to hacked it.
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QUOTE(RiuK3n @ May 26 2011, 08:22 PM)
It's really funny that all the rangers suddenly so active whenever there is a free phone is involved
U won't even see them this active when there is a ranger + blogger event
Bt when rumors started that there is a free phone they are the most active
It's almost like a leech when they smell human blood they crawl up the leg no matter how risky it is  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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Active? Got meh?

Just one post regarding maybe free phone... Then the rest is somewhat unrelated...

I think I had made it quite clear when I get C7 that probably Nokia should broaden their Ranger list to include more people. Basically, function remains same, with slight difference on the exterior, camera capability, additional addon like voice cancellation, but core S^3 is just the same across the board. Why you so butthurt?
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QUOTE(firstknight @ May 26 2011, 08:36 PM)
thats what they are for... lol...
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Yes, I do feel the same at times.

Rangers or not, actually we did not have any specialty at all. We have no access to beta, formal launches, etc. They want feedback and we have given them what they want, but where are the things that we want? Free phones or not, I really don't care anymore. One thing for sure when I joined is that I wanted to see how Nokia can reinvent Symbian and I don't want to spent anymore money on outdated smartphones. I'm still pretty disappointed to say at least, up until today.

You really wonder if the view of Rangers on Symbian over the world is being used as one of the consideration when Nokia was considering whether or not to jump ship to WP7.


Added on May 26, 2011, 9:59 pm
QUOTE(alexlimco @ May 26 2011, 09:43 PM)
No need to explain lar guys. If Nokia keep going at this pace, it's a wonder if this thread gets even 1 page every week. whistling.gif

BTW, I've jumped ship to Android so can someone else start the next thread when the time comes? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(acemaster15 @ May 26 2011, 10:27 PM)
Gratz to those who will get free phones from nokia and brag how bad they are as well taking a 3 months break before been feed again.

Questions comes back to user:
do we really need a godlike phone?
how often u hardcore multitask? (camerapro and normal camera app like me)
is the update(browers update) important that it can substitute your pc/notebook?

dont just simple huha u'll get free phone(and tell the HOLD WORLD), i dont think nokia will be that blind, it take 1 to check all previous post of SELECTIVE user and dertermine whether he get a free ride or not

BTW: im also mac(nvr iph) and andriod user too~
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Its not about being godlike. I think Google I/O has the RIGHT word for you, ITS ALL ABOUT CHOICE. Giving user the CHOICE, to experience whats used to be impossible, right in your palm.

Who cares about multitasking? Only Nokia hardcore fans care I think.. a few kept saying Symbian is the true multitasking mobile OS as Android and iOS managed it in someway that apps are being closed without your knowledge. They have nothing to brag about, and they kept a blind eyes even as Symbian phone runs slowly with all these apps hogging the memory and to some extend running out of memory to use.

I have my PC hooked to my 37" which makes it not suitable for anything else but watching TV and BT. I had my laptop in its bag unless I really need Flash10. Despite the slimness and lightweight iPad2, it still quite troublesome at times when you just cant leave it in car/table just like that. Those who never appreciate doing these stuffs on a smartphone because they NEVER open themselves to the WORLD of ENDLESS POSSIBILITY brought upon us by the likes of Google, RIM, Apple etc. I bet some Nokia BLINDED fans are still complaining about the soft ringtone volume for other brand of smartphones.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 26 2011, 10:31 PM)
All these hype happens because of "free" phones; If the rangers never get "free" stuffs, then it will not be the same. That's why somethings is best not to reveal because no matter what, people will look differently and there're many types of people around. Anyway, when they first ask, they never mentioned anything about freebies, they only say attend launching, get information and so on; I also ask about any obligations or requirements, commitments, etc. there was none. The 'free' phones comes as a surprise.
I'm also have privilege for invitation for launching, information for another different product; it doesn't mean there must be free stuff only join or anything.

I'm not sure how many are active, but not necessary must post something meaning active, reading without posting is nobody knows. Plus, the rangers were NOT only from N8 forum, there're N900 owners, and other thread members, basically mostly is the thread starter as they work the hardest and provide the most information, spend lots of their time contributing without asking anything in return. Even if they didn't maintain it anymore, it doesn't mean their past work should be forgotten, they may have a family or busy with their life/work, etc.

As for revoking the "priviledges"; I don't think it's a nice thing to say; If being a ranger for the sake of getting freebies, might as well say, no more freebies next time instead of keep changing the rangers? So, no need to fight who wanna become a ranger.
It won't end, there will always be people who're not happy and "comment" something.

Anyway, if those that are sooo keen, I think being a blogger gives you better "reward" and "opportunities"; You might get a lot more stuffs and sponsored by few companies instead of only Nokia.

My cheap 2 cents.
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I do not need rewards, or free phones. I can purchased them if I wanted to, BUT DEFINITELY NOT RUBBISH PHONES. Thats why I said, I did not want to pay for something that I felt was over-hype ever since the beginning. How many of you Nokia fans were saying S3 is nothing like you ever seen? LOL... yeah, one that sent Symbian to death valley... I never seen before? Oh wait, I seen and used one... Nokia 7710 based on S90. It was sent to hell during launch.


Added on May 26, 2011, 11:21 pm
QUOTE(hengguowei @ May 26 2011, 11:04 PM)
Nope. Definitely no. Or why do you think they're still using ARM11 for all Symbian devices and nHD after 2 years 7 months since Nokia 5800 was released, still the same. Only improvement was Graphic chip and higher clocked ARM11 and of course Symbian^3 and capacitive.
Does it matter ARM11 or not? Im using an ARM11 Android phone. Fast? Perhaps not as smooth as those 1GHz ARMv7 but usability, its about the same minus Flash10 and 720P playback.

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I do not need your teaching, best kept to yourself. The fact remains is that I'm not offended by your post. I don't know what makes you feel this way. If you are one of those Symbian coder, I might be but you are not.

I do not need to explain further on the above. It's up to you to perceived what I have said. Nokia used to offer endless possibility in the past but it's all but endless pain now. You can still keep on with your Nokia device, I'm not forcing you to leave Nokia. In fact, I have clients who just bought a C7. When they ask me what to buy, I won't recommend a Nokia but if they come up with qeuestion like, it's usable, of course a big yes. Then they come to ask you please help me install this game (pointing to the game I'm paying on my ipad2) and I will tell them f*** off.
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QUOTE(yeelin04 @ May 27 2011, 12:52 AM)
when nokia gives good thing, all also crawl here...

when nokia did something bad, all critics like hell...all know how to say how bad nokia was...

have u ever think about how good nokia was, when they give u good / free things??

show some courtesy pls..
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LOL

I think I have said this before. Nokia perhaps should just get hardcore BLIND supporter like you to be Rangers.
They want a CHALLENGE and want to show us, the iFaggers and Goblins, they can do a better job.
Why dont you check out the very first few post I criticize on S3 even before Radiance does her picking here.
When I got to the Rangers event, some of them already KNEW about my skepticism about Symbian and showed me they are using either an Iphone or Android phones to proved that Nokia does compare itself to its competitors. Knowing is one thing, deliver the promise is something else. You wanna know what I was being PROMISED in the initial Ranger event?

Gratitude? Have you ever think of those paying customer who buy N8 new and have to sent in for a mainboard change and worse come back with cosmetic damage. Have you ever think of those paying customer who buy a C6 and end up with a dead phone as well. Have you ever think of those paying customer who buy a N97 and it kept running out of memory. Did Nokia compensate them? HELL NO!!!

You can keep your passion of Nokia to yourself, period.

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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ May 27 2011, 02:13 AM)
disagree.rubbish phone or not,it depends.every phone definitely got their own pros and cons..the advantages of the phone fit your wants and demands,its a good phone then.For example,my girl friend need a REALLY LONG LONG BATTERY LIFE phone.so i bought her a Nokia 1616.it last for 2 weeks.1616 got nothing special,extraordinary functions but long battery life fulfill her demand so its a good phone for her.
For me,N8 undoubtedly is slow,UI ugly but 2 major things make me still keep it as my main phone.OVI MAPS+GARMIN.Camera which NONE of any other brand or OS can offer. smile.gif
Damn... pamper sendiri with Iphone, Android phone, N8 and only give your GF an alien from the 90's.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ May 27 2011, 09:57 AM)
u still dun understand.like abalone is a great and expensive dishes but if someone there wanna eat ice cream u give him an abalone?he want an ice cream.hope this may help u.
EVERY PHONE GOT THEIR OWN PROS AND CONS. smile.gif
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(Revised) Every manufacturers got its own pros and cons...

Buy Nokia if you plan to drop it to the floor every now and then... sturdier than a brick. An Iphone if you want to dress it up like a barbie. An Android if you want to look weird and nerdy.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ May 27 2011, 10:32 AM)
lol!dun think c7 can tahan.
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I think you under-estimate C7. The most fragile part of C7 for me would be the screen. It has gotten a scratch on the nice screen when I accidentally drop it in LCCT during my trip to Bali. Body wise is quite sturdy, as it slips a number of times (probably 10 or more) out of my pocket while I was sitting on lazy couch or massage chair. Its really slim and slippery like EEL. Being black, most of the damage is not really apparent until you look real upclose. I will try to capture some image when Im free this weekend.
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Oh, I so want Freebies, but only if it's A Fruit... I want to eat Mango...

Anna, or Isabella I left it to you guys...
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陈sir still very enthusiast with N8... Every now n then will post some nice pic from Penang...


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QUOTE(alexlimco @ May 28 2011, 12:12 AM)
If the service level is up to par and no frustations then I guess I am a sour grape then. But I've dedicated the last 15+ years of my stoopid life being loyal to Bokia for nothing!!!  vmad.gif
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Added on May 28, 2011, 8:07 amYeah, yeah, yeah...

iOS is boring. Android is nothing.

iOS can be jailbroken is 5minutes, Android in less than a day, but Symbian after 10years, still standing strong, no jailbreak. The most secure mobile OS EVER.

HAIL NOKIA....

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QUOTE(hengguowei @ May 28 2011, 01:26 PM)

So many off topic discussion here.
Really? It seem like most of the replies do have either Nokia, N8, Symbian, etc.

Nokia is Nokia, Symbian also is Nokia's, N8 is Nokia's too... So definitely not being off topic...

iDoalotmore is also Nokia's... Rangers is also Nokia's... Butthurt is not... My apologies for being off topic...
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QUOTE(emino @ May 28 2011, 10:31 PM)
Why your danbo can kangkang like that one? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(emino @ May 29 2011, 10:05 AM)
What the hell man? Which part of that is me? You need your eyes checked. doh.gif
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A 'photoshop' version of you cosplay Ace.. but with shirt... just feel the similarity nia... not you for sure
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 29 2011, 10:56 AM)
Well, same like iOS, simplfied and lack of features; That's one key point for stability and less problems.

Basic rules in development (or any other fields), the more complciated/sophisticated, the more doors you open, the harder to maintain, control, etc. and the more work you need to do.
Not really, it's just an excuse for not providing Flash. Nothing wrong to provide, they can "turn off" the support by default and let user choose whether they want to have that feature and take the risk of the problems like lag, slower response, hang, etc.
I don't buy their excuses, don't have say don't have, don't want to provide say don't want to provide, don't give excuses, especially lame ones.

Plus, the videos I posted before for Windows Phone, iDunCare performs the worst for HTML5 rendering with only 2 frames per second, Android got 10 frames per second while Windows Phone with IE9 utilizing hardware acceleration renders at 24 frames per second.
Still waiting for Windows Phone to support Flash; the news about Adobe creating Flash for Windows Phone has been announce since early 2010. Now, I only read, both Adobe and MS are "still" working on it.
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Hahaha... Some people don't really know the difference between OS and hardware. Keep comparing the camera la, camera la and camera la. Camera can upgrade hor? Can change lens hor? Sorry lor, I'm not interested in taking pics at all. Still, I won't go and tell you don't post your pics geh, just asking to spoiler tag nia n dun repeatly post same pics ge je.

Ya, I still wanna learn how to jailbreak le. For now, I just break my bank account first.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 29 2011, 11:58 AM)
Yup, it's still being used by many nonetheless; If don't want to support or provide, then just say it, don't give "lame" excuses; That's what I trying to say.

They can always give OPTION for the user. "Turn on support for Flash", then put a disclaimer.
Not providing and giving "lame" excuses is another story.
BUT anyway, I'm just nobody and they don't need EVERY TYPE of user to use their device, every device has its target users; Just like cars, there is different segment, different types, that suit different people.
Let's put it this way, if Windows given ONLY "Guest" account to the user, then as an admin, you have lots of control over the user and you have less worry what the user is capable of doing; If you can control they can only run 1 application at 1 time, not allow them to run certain programs, no access to certain features, etc. You can pretty much be sure there will be less complain to the user (unless they are intermediate-advance users).
The problem is iOS? They never give ANY OPTION to the user. Everyone is treated as the same, regardless you're "professional" or someone who have never used a computer before.

As for other "smartphone", perhaps they should make their OS "DEFAULT" as simple as possible, then the intermediate-advance users can choose to enable the advance options; But then, the "normal" users might ask, "How come your device can do this and mine can't".

Of course, you have to understand above usage of "account" is an EXAMPLE. In just like software development, we try to make it simple to the users and prevent them from making problems, etc.  Depending on the software you develop and user coverage, the simple part is, the software might be target to small scale (e.g. company, and there's not really the need to make the program/software "boombastic", BUT as a developer, we can always make it more flexible for the user through turning on certain options.)
For example: The search function, for most simple user, they just use the search. We don't give them the "Advanced Search" by default, the user can "choose" to use it, IF they know how to use it. Even if they starting out as SIMPLE user, then can eventually upgrade and learn. If we only LOCK them with simple search function, then next time they saw another software which offers "Advance Search", they'll be like point blank, and they said, I prefer the previous software, more easy to use? *HINT* this is also a "dirty" strategy to keep your user.

Just my cheap cheap 2 cents lah.
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Hmm, quite different from what I thought. WP7 won't be open sourced for sure, thus we can only rely on what Nokia chooses for us. I think what you want is already available somewhere. Both Android n iOS don't have a lot of those stock in-house apps like file manager etc. If you need those, you would need to download or buy them from Market. I think your idea are brilliant, but there's one catch. Those user who don't need those advance feature will ask whether or not they can pay for a simpler version of it. That will create diversion. Perhaps something like in apps purchase to unlock advance features. Just like early Android devices from HTC namely Legend n Desire. Only RM100 apart despite the big difference in hardware configuration.

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