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Hou_JaI
post Jun 12 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 12 2017, 11:44 AM)
looks like u r very new to this box and not getting help from yr seller.

there are many things already discussed here in this thread, incl input from me.

take time to read at least last 20 pages as people may not respond if it has been repeatedly discussed before.
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yea .. i got it from lazada ... thx for the info. and its the first 20 pages?
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post Jun 12 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hou_JaI @ Jun 12 2017, 01:00 PM)
yea .. i got it from lazada ... thx for the info. and its the first 20 pages?
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LAST.

maybe last 20, last 30, last 50... read when q10pro issues starts.
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QUOTE(Hou_JaI @ Jun 12 2017, 01:00 PM)
yea .. i got it from lazada ... thx for the info. and its the first 20 pages?
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There's also the "search" and "isolate member posts" feature.. Both are super useful features to quickly narrow down answers.
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post Jun 14 2017, 04:38 PM

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Any news on Himedia H1000? it has dual HDMI output, a feature probably good for old AV receiver that unable to receive 4K HDR signal
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post Jun 14 2017, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 14 2017, 04:38 PM)
Any news on Himedia H1000? it has dual HDMI output, a feature probably good for old AV receiver that unable to receive 4K HDR signal
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i doubt this is a priority for any box or branded BD player maker - too expensive, too few people will buy it.

old receivers can be hdmi but non 4k or no hdmi but using toslink or coaxial.

all that can be handled by existing hdmi or toslink n coaxial output from the box.

if the avr is non 4k and/or non hd audio, the box player will just downgrade the video to 1080p and/or dd/dts or whatever the avr can handle, u still get the best possible video on yr tv and the best possible audio from yr avr.

ok, i am refering to himedia native player, no idea about other box players.

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post Jun 14 2017, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 14 2017, 05:19 PM)
i doubt this is a priority for any box or branded BD player maker - too expensive, too few people will buy it.

old receivers can be hdmi but non 4k or no hdmi but using toslink or coaxial.

No DTS Master HD/Dolby True HD/Atmos/DTS-X

all that can be handled by existing hdmi or toslink n coaxial output from the box.

if the avr is non 4k and/or non hd audio, the box player will just downgrade the video to 1080p and/or dd/dts or whatever the avr can handle, u still get the best possible video on yr tv and the best possible audio from yr avr.

Need to play 4K HDR while maintaining compatibility with HDMI 1.4 AV receiver for sounds

ok, i am refering to himedia native player, no idea about other box players.
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Dual HDMI output is an important feature for high end ULTRA HD bluray player, oppo 203, Samsung K8500, Panasonic UB900/700 all have dual HDMI output.

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post Jun 14 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 14 2017, 08:24 PM)
Dual HDMI output is an important feature for high end ULTRA HD bluray player, oppo 203, Samsung K8500, Panasonic UB900/700 all have dual HDMI output.
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ya, high end bluray DISC cum media players.

how much do these players cost, each?

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post Jun 14 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 14 2017, 08:24 PM)
Dual HDMI output is an important feature for high end ULTRA HD bluray player, oppo 203, Samsung K8500, Panasonic UB900/700 all have dual HDMI output.
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Why do you say it's important?

Edit: OK I saw your purple text...i see where you're going...it's not the primary reason...but ok...

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 14 2017, 09:24 PM)
Why do you say it's important?

Edit: OK I saw your purple text...i see where you're going...it's not the primary reason...but ok...
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likely scenario: he has an old receiver, hdmi, but can't pass thru HD audio.

but has new 4kHDR tv.

so, need player HDMI1 to TV, HDMI2 for just digital dts/dd audio.

but, really, since AVR can't do HD audio, waste of time with hdmi, just connect via coxial/toslink, same digital audio.

player single hdmi to TV.

problem solved, no? biggrin.gif


why mess with rm2-3k player just for that?!!



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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 14 2017, 09:36 PM)
likely scenario: he has an old receiver, hdmi, but can't pass thru HD audio.

but has new 4kHDR tv.

so, need player HDMI1 to TV, HDMI2 for just digital dts/dd audio.

but, really, since AVR can't do HD audio, waste of time with hdmi, just connect via coxial/toslink, same digital audio.

player single hdmi to TV.

problem solved, no? biggrin.gif
why mess with rm2-3k player just for that?!!
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My amp can do HD audio, but if I connect the HDMI 2.0 4K signal to my HDMI 1.4 1080p AMP, no sound at all. I need to lower the display resolution to 1080p to get audio out

If I use toslink/Coaxial digital output, I don't get HD audio because toslink/coaxial digital output has limited bandwidth
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 14 2017, 08:49 PM)
ya, high end bluray DISC cum media players.

how much do these players cost, each?
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oppo UDP 203 is the best, but too costly RM3K, actually all these players have built in cinavia, hmm, you know it... shakehead.gif

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post Jun 14 2017, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 14 2017, 11:24 PM)
My amp can do HD audio, but if I connect the HDMI 2.0 4K signal to my HDMI 1.4 1080p AMP, no sound at all. I need to lower the display resolution to 1080p to get audio out

If I use toslink/Coaxial digital output, I don't get HD audio because toslink/coaxial digital output has limited bandwidth
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well, u said:

No DTS Master HD/Dolby True HD/Atmos/DTS-X

dtshdma/ddtruehd is hd audio.

dts/dd is digital audio.


before i go any further, u should explain what box, what player (app) u r using now, what files u r playing.

also, what tv u hv?

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post Jun 15 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 14 2017, 11:34 PM)
well, u said:

No DTS Master HD/Dolby True HD/Atmos/DTS-X

dtshdma/ddtruehd is hd audio.

dts/dd is digital audio.
before i go any further, u should explain what box, what player (app) u r using now, what files u r playing.

also, what tv u hv?
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If you use Toslink/Coaxial digital output, you don't get dtshdma/ddtruehd or no HD audio, it is pretty clear, right?

I have Himedia Q5 4K30, it can play up to 4K 30fps, himedia connects to Anthem MRX 300 amp which is HDMI 1.4 but it doesn't work well with 4K resolutions, I have JVC X5000 4K HDR projector.

When I set player output to 4K 30fps, I only get 4K picture output on my screen (FYI I set HDMI pass through at my Anthem amp), but no sound output regardless of what file I play, this is pretty common issue when playing 4K movies with old AMP, few ways to get around it without upgrading AMP to HDMI 2.0

1. Player has dual HDMI output - one HDMI 2.0a for 4K HDR video, another one HDMI 1.4 for audio output
2. Get device like HDfury Integral (splitter) and HDfury link (scalar) to split the HDMI from player to two output , and connect one of the output to scaler to downscale it to 1080p HDMI 1.4, then the scaler connect to the old AMP.


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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 15 2017, 10:43 AM)
If you use Toslink/Coaxial digital output, you don't get dtshdma/ddtruehd or no HD audio, it is pretty clear, right?

I have Himedia Q5 4K30, it can play up to 4K 30fps, himedia connects to Anthem MRX 300 amp which is HDMI 1.4 but it doesn't work well with 4K resolutions, I have JVC X5000 4K HDR projector.

When I set player output to 4K 30fps, I only get 4K picture output on my screen (FYI I set HDMI pass through at my Anthem amp), but no sound output regardless of what file I play, this is pretty common issue when playing 4K movies with old AMP, few ways to get around it without upgrading AMP to HDMI 2.0

1. Player has dual HDMI output - one HDMI 2.0a for 4K HDR video, another one HDMI 1.4 for audio output
2. Get device like HDfury Integral (splitter) and HDfury link (scalar) to split the HDMI from player to two output , and connect one of the output to scaler to downscale it to 1080p HDMI 1.4, then the scaler connect to the old AMP.
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yes, coaxial/toslink can't do hd audio.

yr himedia "q5 4k30" - it will help if u say the actual model becos there are like 5 diff "Q5" models - diff chipsets, diff android, diff capabilities.
but since u said "it doesn't work well with 4K", i wud think it is one the earlier ones where it can play some 4k 8bit but not 4k 10bit or 4kHDR.
to play all kinds of 4k, incl 10bit, hdr10, dolby vision, u need to get the new q5pro/q10pro (the HDR wrong aspect ratio issue should be fixed with next firmware).

yr AVR, hdmi 1.4 or 1.3a can only do 1080p with HD audio.
you can pass thru 4k with HDMI pass thru but that will shut off the audio - this AVR feature is meant to set the AVR on standby but pass thru video AND audio to the TV. since u r not using TV but projector, u get video but no audio.

yr situation is clear, many are in same situation - player, AVR, TV capabilities are not in synch.
as they are now, u can either give up 4k video to get HD audio or give up HD audio to get 4k video.

in the longer term to use yr projector to the max, first, u get a new player and then a new AVR:
- new player that can do 10 bit, HDR, dolby vision - cheapest one will be Q5pro, RM500 or so.
- new AVR (4k HDR, dolby vision, atmos, DTSX), RM2-3k for entry level, lower power.

the methods u mentioned, i can't comment - i do not know the prices or how effective they will be for yr equipment over time as the file formats change with new tech.

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post Jun 15 2017, 12:34 PM

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AVFAN... obviously the dual HDMI box is the cheaper option biggrin.gif

Kiding... nice amp/beamer you have there...got any player with hdmi in and dual out?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 15 2017, 12:34 PM)
AVFAN... obviously the dual HDMI box is the cheaper option biggrin.gif

Kiding... nice amp/beamer you have there...got any player with hdmi in and dual out?
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Oppo UDP-203, 1 x HDMI in, 2 x HDMI out, best picture and audio, high end media player. just the price is not friendly cry.gif

AVFAN I won't get new amp, because get a new amp to surpass my current amp audio capability, it will be too costly, and I love my current Anthem amp. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 15 2017, 01:17 PM)
Oppo UDP-203, 1 x HDMI in, 2 x HDMI out, best picture and audio, high end media player. just the price is not friendly cry.gif

AVFAN I won't get new amp, because get a new amp to surpass my current amp audio capability, it will be too costly, and I love my current Anthem amp. laugh.gif
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if prices of these super disc/media players are friendly, there will be no room for cheaper ones!


yr AVR.. i understand... i have a 1.3a Onkyo, marvellous, using it with 1080p tv and PHONO. biggrin.gif

recently bought a new entry level Denon to do 4k/HD audio with Q10pro on 4kTV.

the time will come to get a 3rd set... there is no end, is there? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 15 2017, 01:17 PM)
Oppo UDP-203, 1 x HDMI in, 2 x HDMI out, best picture and audio, high end media player. just the price is not friendly cry.gif

AVFAN I won't get new amp, because get a new amp to surpass my current amp audio capability, it will be too costly, and I love my current Anthem amp. laugh.gif
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I tot you might have an oppo...

Can try Q5 to oppo hdmi in? Your Oppo hdmi1 to JVC, hdmi2 to amp?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 15 2017, 01:33 PM)
I tot you might have an oppo...

Can try Q5 to oppo hdmi in? Your Oppo hdmi1 to JVC, hdmi2 to amp?
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Should be able to do that, but I don't want to manage two players, too messy ...
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jun 15 2017, 05:59 PM)
Should be able to do that, but I don't want to manage two players, too messy ...
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Well...its temporary until the new box...

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