QUOTE(razuryza @ Apr 24 2011, 05:36 AM)
i'm using d700+16-35mm for ages... no problemo.. feel just nize 
for ages? Biar betul, I thought you only upgraded to D700 for not even a year plus? Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V9, D5100 stock arrived !
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Apr 24 2011, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Apr 24 2011, 05:36 AM) i'm using d700+16-35mm for ages... no problemo.. feel just nize for ages? Biar betul, I thought you only upgraded to D700 for not even a year plus? |
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Apr 24 2011, 10:57 AM
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Apr 25 2011, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 25 2011, 11:08 AM) 50mm on cropped sensor is roughly the same as 85mm on FF, having said so, the MFD difference between these 2 lenses is pretty significant. 50mm f1.4 - 0.45 metre 85mm f1.4 - 0.85 metre So it affects the DOF too. Added on April 25, 2011, 11:17 am QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 25 2011, 11:16 AM) Well, his shot lseems little more closer, and if he focus and recompose, it will affect his focus plane. Finally, he might also have moved a little probably before pressing the shutter. Refer to my post above. The MFD shorter MFD on 50mm f1.4 allows him to go closer anyway, lol, we're like playing detective or troubleshooting, haha. just my guess lah, there can be many possibilities, only the person knows best. This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 25 2011, 11:17 AM |
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Apr 25 2011, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 25 2011, 11:42 AM) But when obtaining similar field of view, 50mm on DX versus 85mm on FF. Not necessary, for instance,Let's say 85mm stands 1 meter away from focus point, the 50mm would be roughly 1 meter away too right? The dof for 85m would be more shallow isn't it due to focal length. 85mm f1.4 on full frame body and you are 1 metre away from the subject. 50mm f1.4 on cropped body and you are 1 metre away from the subject. If you ignore the minor differences, you should be able to get the same field of view, but when both steps closer by half a metre 85mm f1.4 on full frame body and you are 0.5 metre away from the subject (you get OOF shot due to you went beyond the MFD) 50mm f1.4 on cropped body and you are 0.5 metre away from the subject. (you get a narrower DOF due to the nearer the subject's distance to you, the narrower the DOF except you go beyond the MFD) |
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Apr 25 2011, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 25 2011, 12:04 PM) Understood, but I was comparing when both lens are still within focus distance. If beyond MFD no point comparing since can't even get a lock on the focus already. No point comparing both within same distance cause everyone knows obviously the 85mm f1.4 on full frame has a shallower DOF compared to 50mm f1.4 on cropped sensor body. The reason I highlighted that MFD does affect too cause Andy214 was saying that the picture above appeared to be taken very close, so high chances the shooter went very close to the subject considering 50mm f1.4's MFD is 0.45metre allowing the shooter to go very very close. QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 25 2011, 12:04 PM) I think to help identify the problem of the picture, it doesnm't really matter if his picture have more shallow DOF than yours or vice versa. The key point here is, there is shallow DOF. For the picture that I see, I would say the DOF is shallow since its considered close up, and we're also nolt sure if he uses focus recompose technique, if yes, this further cause the problem. I see that we are tuning the same channel Even if he did not focus and recompose, it can be he focus and lock and during framing and waiting for the moment, he move or the subject moved shifting the focus plane. As I said, there can be many reasons, only the person knows best. From the picture, what I can say is there is shallow DOF since its close up, the rest, it depends on the technique and how the shot was taken. |
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Apr 25 2011, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Apr 25 2011, 12:25 PM) I think the subject moving around, shifting the focus plane may sound reasonable, especially when you are indirectly shooting her, and she will just move her face to other photogs on and off. Yes and it's one of the common factor that causes you to get OOF shots |
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Apr 25 2011, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Apr 25 2011, 12:30 PM) That's why proper communication is important. Sometimes, I will confirm my focus lock few times when the model looked at me. Tit tit tit few times if I got the time luxury, this will sometimes guarantee really tack sharp focus, even on my kitlens. Some inexperienced model will move their body a tad when they pose without knowing this is bad for the photogs who just locked their focus. |
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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Apr 25 2011, 12:38 PM) PC Fair I would care less. OOF shots will go straight to the recycle bin. Hence effective communication is one of the key! But for outdoor portrait shooting where I can talk to my models, and if I want to achieve certain shots, I would tell her, "OK, look at me, I focus on your eyes... but don't move". If she moves, then I have to educate/coach her not to move much. So sometimes, it requires a few takes before I got that perfect shot with perfect focus especially if it's a complicated pose which involves movement and dynamics. It worth the effort. |
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Apr 25 2011, 11:30 PM
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Best way shoot RAW and adjust later.
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Apr 26 2011, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 26 2011, 09:29 AM) So you're not seeing that instead of the photo... cause on my side I'm able to see the photo that's why was wondering what's the Katak Beku referring to Nah, now I'm able to view unker scotty's pics by clicking on them. I too registered an imageshack account but the problem still persists Thought you mentioned her expression like katak beku QUOTE(stsh90 @ Apr 26 2011, 10:34 AM) aduh... QUOTE(0168257061 @ Apr 26 2011, 11:01 AM) LuLz of the day. You are actually seeing mine cause I posted a real frozen frog there. QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 26 2011, 11:05 AM) |
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 26 2011, 07:48 PM) uik, that one havent post in LYN QUOTE(Irbean @ Apr 27 2011, 01:42 AM) Me just bought Rapid 7, damn nice to use. Launched it during the recent PC Fair. My only whine is changing lens is a tad harder compared to normal neck strap. |
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QUOTE(Irbean @ Apr 27 2011, 03:09 AM) let say body+grip + 24-70 attached, with the BR RS7, is it comfortable? just worried my gear hanging on my side upside down..and quite risky i think..is it so? My setup during PC Fair,- Canon EOS 5D Mark II + BG-E6 loaded with 2 batts - Canon EF 24L, 35L, 50L, 15FE, S12-24 - Canon 580exII Speedlite with diffuser - Kirk 5D2 plate I screw the RS7 to my Kirk plate and let it move freely during PC Fair and didn't face any issue except changing lens is slightly invonvenient or probably I'm still not used to it. Yes, it's pretty comfy compared to normal neck strap but you have to be careful that your body and lens don't bang here and there when you move around. |
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Apr 27 2011, 10:26 AM) RS4 is around Rm208, i guess shashinki.com is selling at one of the lowest price, RS7 is around RM228.. The only reason i didnt get the RS7 was the stupid buckle at the back of the strap which can dismount the strap Not really, there's a safety lock before you can buckle it off |
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 22 2011, 11:49 AM) Yeah, same goes with me. Will see other photos or perhaps more reviews to come. My budget at the moment only allow me to go for this lens You might wanna consider getting yourself a Siggy 30mm f1.4 HSM. Ideal for cropped sensor bodies. Should or shouldn't I consider the Sigmalux? However, 35mm seems to be better option for an all-rounder prime lens. |
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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ May 25 2011, 02:36 PM) K I’ve learnt to use the manual mode, and adjust the bar to “0” to get picture with correct exposure. Trial & Error. Sometimes you just can't solely rely on that bar thingy. But when the place get too dark, e.g. sometimes in house, or at night, I can’t follow the bar right? So how do I gauge whether my picture with correct exposure or not? |
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