i am juz curious bout certain things bout ICE. i need some recommendations on what i shud do. but 1st, u can c how long is it gonna be. kinda fussy when it comes to my car. i m sure those who love their cars will understand me. sorry if my ideas r juz plain stupidity or simply not possible. but any feedbacks will surely be appreiated, good or bad. i m ready for some kaw kaw scoldings or rude n sarcastic comments.

i m quite new to ICE. driving a kancil. my current ICE setup is as follows: HU - Clarion DB186MP, Comp - Boschmann AL100SE (4" 2
Way), Coaxial - Nakamichi SPC2-650 (6.5" 2 Way). All connected to the HU. no amps, no subs. a simple ice setup. however, i belif i was conned by a guy in Seremban. he is a real cut-throat. those of u from Seremban might know who is it already. LOH TONG MING or better known as LTM. when i went there, i was really new n juz fell for the image his shop had. anyway, too late now. juz wish no one from here will ever go there. this is juz my experience.

let's get back to my ice setup. i want a system that can compete in any sound competition in malaysia n dont lose terribly. u get wat i mean? budget is out of the question. i wouldnt mind spending 5k (certainly not more than that) for my kancil if its really worth it. although it would be difficult for me to come out with that much of money lump sum, i really dont mind. oh yes, i listen to almost any kind of music n i want good sound quality. but here's the catch, while i want it to be for competitions, i also want it to be practical for my daily usage. i want the lights n all those good looking stuff in my trunk but still be able to take out my spare tire. hehe. get me? is it possible? i want to be able to listen to songs, watch videos in the best manner without giving too much of a headache. my intention here is juz to get the best quality. thats y i say i want a system for competitions. not really keen in going for any competitions anyway. but will surely do at least once to c where i stand. it must also look good cuz i want ppl to look at my car n its ice n get astonished. hehe.

so now that all sifus out there know what i want. i really need help here. what would u suggest. HU+comp+sub+amps? HU+comp+coaxial+sound proofing? stick to m,y current HU,coaxial n comp? i dont know. u tell me. pls specify the brands and models as well. where can i get them? i'm from seremban. dont mind coming to klang valley but would always prefer to get it done it done in seremban itself. n also the price for each.

there's one guy said that he could do it for 5k for competition. it seems he has won some b4 n even some of his customers go for competitions. he sells limited brands. so of cuz he promotes his brands only such as pegasus, eclipse, blaupunkt and another brand better than pegasus(cant recall now).

this was his suggestion eclipse HU nearly 2k. canonly play cd n mp3 i think. definitely cant play vcd or dvd. sound proofing but not for the whole car. pegasus comp for the front. he said he will fix the tweeter to the pillar. 1 pegasus 12 inch sub. n cant remember 1 or 2 pegasus amps. n high quality cables.

what do u guys think? is it worth? or m i being cheated again? juz wanna be careful this time. all ur feedbacks will be very much appreciated. are those items sold in e bay, here n lowyat originals?

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:10 ambtw, wats sq, sql n spl? sq= sound quality? sorry guys. really really new to all these things. tq.

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:21 ammy budget of 5k is not inclusive of the monitor or screen or wateva u call it.

nearly forgot this as well. i know i said i m willing to spend 5k but if lesser better as long as it can fulfill my needs. anywhere u guys know where i can pay in instalments? hehe. finding it hard to save 5k.

This post has been edited by zilole9729: Nov 1 2008, 12:21 AM

oh yes, the guy who said could do it for 5k said that better if i do all at once rather that 1 by 1. dunno the real reason. can i do one by one?

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:52 ambased on this, i guess that guy was intending to take me for a ride. thanx man. really value ur opinion. how many amps do i need? or juz use a 4 ch amp? can i do this slowly? meaning i fix the hu 1st. then, the amps maybe. till i m finally satisfied.

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:54 amwhat kind of cables should i be looking for? brands?

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:56 amnow that i know sql is 50-50, i think i would prefer sql. so still the same like wat ckmoy007 suggested?

This post has been edited by zilole9729: Nov 1 2008, 12:56 AM

can anyone tell me the difference btw good amps n lousy ones? does it matter anyway? after all, the sound is not coming from amps. correct me if i m wrong.

so based on what i want, what type of amps would i need?

ok la. lets put it this way. 5k if lump sum. but now i m planning to get one by one. so no need any mid end rite?

if my HU, comp n amp only high end can ah?

i have another question here. does size really matter? for eg, there's 5.5 n 6.5 components rite? wats the difference? lets take pegasus comp as an example.

Model : PG166PF
Type : 6.5" (16cm) Kelvar Cone 2-way Component System

Features
- Soft and Detailed Sound from Aluminium Case Silk Dome Tweeter
- Rigid 6.5" (16cm) Double-layer Kelvar Cone
- Well Matching Aluminium Case 2-way 12dB/Octave Passive Crossover
- Solid Wooden Box Packing

Specifications
Power Rating : 75 Watts RMS, 150 Watts Peak
Frequency Response : 40 - 20K Hz
Sensitivity : <no spam links> (1W/1M)
Impedance : 4 Ohm
Crossover : 3.5K Hz at 12dB/Octave, with 0, -3dB and -6dB selectable attenuation circuit
Woofer : 6.5" (16cm) Double Layers Kelvar Cone, 1.2" (30mm) Ribbon Wire Kapton Voice Coil
Tweeter : 1" Silk Dome, Aluminium Body, 25mm Kapton Voice Coil, Neodymium Magnet
Master Pack Quantity : 1 Set / Carton



Model : PG136PF
Type : 5.25" (13cm) Kelvar Cone 2-way Component System

Features
- Soft and Detailed Sound from Aluminium Case Silk Dome Tweeter
- Rigid 5.25" (13cm) Double-layer Kelvar Cone
- Well Matching Aluminium Case 2-way 12dB/Octave Passive Crossover
- Solid Wooden Box Packing

Specifications
Power Rating : 60 Watts RMS, 120 Watts Peak
Frequency Response : 45 - 20K Hz
Sensitivity : <no spam links> (1W/1M)
Impedance : 4 Ohm
Crossover : 3.5K Hz at 12dB/Octave, with 0, -3dB and -6dB selectable attenuation circuit
Woofer : 5.25" (13cm) Double Layers Kelvar Cone, 1.2" (30mm) Ribbon Wire Kapton Voice Coil
Tweeter : 1" Silk Dome, Aluminium Body, 25mm Kapton Voice Coil, Neodymium Magnet
Master Pack Quantity : 1 Set / Carton


as u can c here, the differences are the size, power rating and frequency response. how significant are these differences? or does it simply mean that bigger means louder?

when u say mid frequency, what do u mean?

btw, i m juz curious y my rear speakers louder than my front component? hardly can hear any sound from the front. its like all the sound is coming from the rear. i know i can adjust the fader on my hu. is there any other way? is it cuz my rear speakers r more powerful than my front comp? if i get an amp, a 2 ch amp, can i use it juz to power my front comp but leave my rear o be powered by my hu? will this make my comp louder than the rear speakers? meaning that i will feel like the sound is coming from the front only. i juz want the rear speakers now to let the rear passengers listen to some music. all these are for temporary only. will remove the rear speakers when i get my sub. but for now......pls help.

ok. i m getting an amp this weekend. gonna rajin-rajin look for it now. budget increased to 1500. but can still add another 200 or 300 for it. juz strike number juz now.

wit such tight budget, u can get a Clarion DB186 entry lvl HU. i m using it n i would say its really worth it for the $$ u pay but of cuz u cant be too demanding with its performance. Quality wise, its good as u can expect from Clarion HU's.
then, u can get a component for the front n maybe a coaxial for the rear. u can look for howie choo. quite sure he can help u.

maybe if u state ur budget, we can help u out.