Guys, is the Alpine Type R still in production now?

Are there any other similar brands/models that have the same sound characteristics of the Type R? Something that is good in midbass.

Thanks

thanks for your reply
what is the price of the sl60? in what sense the SL60 is better than the type r?
thanks!

thanks for the recommendation bro

besides what, what current available speakers priced about RM600 and below that is closest to either the type r or the sl60

thanks

Guys, what is a good, component set for about RM500-800?

Currently using some Eclipse components which i like. My preference is SQL, with emphasize on mid bass and details. I quite like the sound signature of the old Alpine Type R, so something with similar sound characteristics would be great =D.

Thanks guys!

of these 4, which do you reckon is best for SQ with good clarity and midbass?

Focal Access A1 RM750
Dominations D'Lite RM600
Boston Acoustics SX60 RM750
Alpine Type G SPG-17CS RM788

bear in mind im going to power it only with my HU so it should give good results unamped, but great results amped

thanks guys!

THanks for your input . May i ask, why Boston? Midbass good? Easy to drive?

In order, Boston > Focal > Alpine > Domination?

Wah Boston really that good? 0.o

Is there anywhere i can audition a Boston SX60, Focal Access A1 and Domination Lite?

=D thanks!

I've went to KF today and tried the below. My opinions are:

RM800 range
- Focal Access 165A1 (amped) : Vocals abit harsh/noisy, midbass pretty strong
- Boston Acoustics SX60 (HU direct) : Vocals sounds abit more natural, midbass more solid, but midbass is weaker

Rm1200 range
- Boston Acoustics SL60 (HU direct) : Vocals sound very natural, midbass stronger than SX60, but feels somewhat more bloated, less controlled. whole system sounds very balanced

Is my acoustic observation of these sets matches you all? 0.o. Im curious cause im not that good, so i'd like to know whether my evaluation of these are the same as you all sifus =D.

Anyways, I like the SL60, but its way over my budget. So i'd like to firstly compare between the Focal Access 165A1 and the Boston SL60. Thing is both are not directly comparable since one is amped while the other isnt. I'd like to know whether will the 165A1 perform well with just HU, and what are you all opinion between this two? Which will benefit more in the future from amping? Is the Boston SX60 still undeniably better? Also I've heard so many about the Dominations Lite, but cant seem to find it to audit .

Then, if i were to EXTEND my budget, and get into the Rm1200 range, what are the other options available to me? Again, i love solid midbass, and in every song i look out for the bass guitar and drum beats . Vocals should not be overly harsh, but natural and clear.

Thanks alot people! Appreciate the opinions and help guys!

To be Audited:
- Dominations D'Lite
- ???
- ???

Thanks for your reply bro! Haha i know u have the SL60 before. Its all over the web . You choosed it over the Type R and DLS R6A. Is it really better than those?

The SL60 really poisoned me. I was comparing the SX60 and the Focal Access 165A1, and both were more or less comparable, but once the shopowner insisted i try the SL60, bam, now both the SX60 and 165A1 sounds like crap .

Such a dilemma cause as much possible i'd like to stick to my budget . Anyway, i'll try out the Dominations first, then recompare the SX60 and 165A1. If i really cant tahan then i'll up my budget.

But for RM1200, is the Boston SL60 the best choice? How about other options? Alpine Type X requires amp-ing to sound good right, so that might not be a good choice . What are my other options?

Thanks alot people!

Noted on the Polyglass . Will check them out too.

As for the Dominations, where can i find the review? I get mixed opinions on it. Some say fantastic, some say not established and hyped up =.=.

Anyone here that personally audited it before? How does it compare to both the Boston SX60 and Focal Access 165A1? =D

Thanks!

Mmmm... smooth.. i like smooth...
Argh poison! When i was at KF auditioning the 165A1 and SX60, i told her dont let me hear the SL60, but she insisted. I told her sure i'll get poisoned, and see, now SX60 and 165A1 sounded bad to me .

Anyway i gotta see my wallet. Very painful to increase the budget cause i started with 1k for BOTH HU and speakers . If i want the SL60, i'd have to increase another RM200, just for speakers alone =.=.

Still looking for anyone with actual listening experience for Domination Dlite! Need your comments on this vs 165A1 and SX60! =D

Btw ckmoy sifu, have you tried the SX60 before? In your opinion what is the sonic differences between the SL60 and SX60?

Thanks for your advice . The highest my budget allows was initially SX60/165A1 =.=. But yeah, once u heard a better one, all the previous ones will sound like crap . I plan to go HU direct drive until 1-2 years later only add amp. Will go back and try the SL60 unamped and amped to see the difference .

Thanks for your input bro! I've tried the S60 and the midbass was really lacking, tho like u said, it was clear =D. But funnily, the SL60 sounded like very heavy on midbass 0.o. It was unamped, driven by an Alpine set (at KF Audio). Is the SL60 an exception to the "Bostons are generally weak in midbass" perception?

How is the Focal Polyglass 165V2 sound signature?

it was installed in a shelf =.=
how different would the sound be?



Found more choices in RM1.2k range:
- Hertz HSK165
- Rainbow CSX265
- Focal Polyglass 165V2

mann =.=

This post has been edited by daijoubu: May 20 2010, 09:54 PM

sadly they dont have test unit in car
i only have all board mounted ones

=.= i dont think i'll touch the higher ends one anymore. i'll only slap myself in the face. then i'll feel too guilty to spend RM1.2k on 'inferior' sounding comps

more like i'll be poisoned alot there right =.=
and i wont have enough antidote (money)

Ooh how was the SX60 BEFORE you heard the SL60? . Satisfied with it? Was the midbass ok?
What were you comparing the SX60 before you choosed, and what made you choose it?
Thanks bro!

Thanks for the input . When i tested the SX60 and SL60 the difference were definately there but i didnt test it long enough and with a song that im familiar with to know how big of the difference it was. Will be going back to test with my CD.

Thanks for your info bro . I definately cant do proper amping (unless those Proton amps i have, which highest is 60watts so doubt it'll be enough) until at least a year or two. So of all, which sounds good unamped, but after amping, will have even better improvement in sound?

Btw do you do installations for the speakers you sell? If yes, where is your location?

I've went to 4 shops today

- Audio Quest, SS15. Wanted to try Dominations Dlite, but they do not have the demo car available, so i need to return next week perhaps.

- KK Lau, SS3. No demo available for the units im interested.

- Audio Genesis. Tried Voz 601PC as they do not have much to offer. Tweeters pretty sharp and forward, not my type. Never heard of the brand before. Nothing else of interest for me to test.

- ACP Accessories, SS2. No demo for available for units im interested.

So i really did not gain much today. The one i was looking forward to most was the Dominations, but i have to go back next week to demo it. Meh =.=

Today went for another round of testing! Brought my own CD which i was more familiar with. Here are my findings:

Focal Access 165A1 : Reasonable amount of midbass, vocals are slightly muffled or veiled in comparison with SL60. Tweeters are slightly noisy. Midbass is pretty solid/less muddy

Boston Acoustics SX60 : Sibilance is quite bad, vocals very very bright. Nice at first but can get fatigued fast. Bass is weak. The clarity is definately there, great for vocals if can lower the brightness or down the trebles, but unfortunately lack of bass puts me off.

Boston Acoustics SL60 : Again, very smooth and bass is pretty strong. Dont think its as strong as the 165A1, but the vocals sounds less bright, while maintaining its clarity. Mids are much fuller, and overall sounds much more nicer then the above two.

Dominations Dlite : Tested in car (above 3 speakers tested on speaker board) with Dynamat-ted doors. This set is running purely off Persona OEM HU, with no amp and no sub. Midbass is VERY STRONG. Unfortunately its quite muddy and not very precise, although the strength is there. Not sure is this due to the dynamats, or the HU being low quality. Sibilance is better than SX60 and 165A1, vocals is pretty clear, but imaging is horrible, also maybe due to the HU. Kinda hard to conclude this set.

As of now, i am STILL not decided between the 165A1, SL60 and Dlite. SX60 is totally out, while Dlite is so-so. Its more of between 165A1 vs SL60. Not sure whether the extra money is worth it .

Meh ICE is sooo hard xD.