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 SAMSUNG GALAXY S II Official thread V2, Dual Core 1.2 Ghz - best Android phone ?

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post May 1 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(the100308 @ May 1 2011, 08:27 AM)
Hi guys, I was just wondering, is it possible to close the application from long pressing the middle button? Or must I go to task manager and kill it?

secondly, is there anyway I can get a larger profile picture when my contact is synced with facebook? Thansk
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The close app question: keep clicking back until the app exits.

Added on May 1, 2011, 11:04 am@benny

the SGS2 has been rooted. Gingerbreak also doesn't root retail units, or at least that's what the XDA thread says.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334

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post May 2 2011, 06:49 PM

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agree with irenic. oldKyoo you might want to tone down your fanboyism a bit.

The iOS platform has both eye candy and fluidity, something Android is lacking severely. HTC sense took care of the eye candy bit, but fluid it is not. I admire iOS for having such an enormous reach despite being only on one device they call a phone. Not to mention that multitouch gesture is amazing, despite being a bit gimmicky.
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post May 3 2011, 12:41 AM

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^you got it wrong. The android you see today will not exist without the existence of iOS. I'm as much of an Android fan as everyone in this subforum, but I acknowledge the contributions iOS had on the Android platform.

Nobody can deny iOS popularised multitouch zooming. Beautification of Android also started when people start comparing with iOS.

And it's only fair to consider the first commercially available Android device, which is the G1. Even the G1, dare you say it is comparable to the iPhone 2G at that time?

Me in support of anti-fanboyism.

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post May 3 2011, 04:46 PM

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There's the search bar at the bottom of every thread page though. whistling.gif

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post May 3 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(nothing_nth @ May 3 2011, 04:52 PM)
not trying to troll ~ If I wanna ask which dealer in Msia gonna take in SGS II 1st, try use the search bar n c... what can u do with it...  whistling.gif  doh.gif
p/s: just ans what u knw or ignore...what the point flaming?  blush.gif
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lol i was talking about trivial stuff.

If dealer, there's always the Garage Sales Mobile Phones subforum. Or Mudah.com. Or Lelong.
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post May 4 2011, 11:23 PM

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Anyone has a name as to the way SGS2 renders the webpages? The implementation is very similar to iPhone's. If I'm not mistaken the webpage halts rendering when the pinch-zoom gesture is performed, which is why you see checkerboard when pinch zooming (also as seen on iPhone). The page resumes rendering when the zoom gesture was ended.

The advantage of this rendering method is that it gives a very smooth feel to browsing. The disadvantage is of coz the checkerboards.

Anyone have a name for it?
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post May 5 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(gzero @ May 5 2011, 06:56 AM)
Actually this checkerbox rendering thingy is already implemented in some newer version of current SGS1 firmware. I am personally using it now so i can attest to that. Only certain version though. Basically, when u pinch to zoom, everything will be blurred as u pinch, and it will only refocus the text/image once u release your finger. Sure, the advantage is that it's a lot smoother, but it's also less pretty to eyes smile.gif. The original browser on older firmware, will refocus the text real time as you zoom, and this will cause sluggishness if the website is graphic/flash heavy, but it's also more pleasing to the eye as you can read while you zoom. So, there's a compromise to both, unless the phone is powerful enough to refocus real time as you zoom.

However,"stop-rendering" during zoom pinching is a completely separate thing if i'm not wrong. I don't think SGS1 has that feature.
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"stop rendering" is just my guess because checkerboard in the world of graphics design means transparency, something like a space of void that allows background images to be visible. Makes sense as my guess would be the zoom process actually involves the phone taking a screenshot of the page, resize it based on finger movement and then render the webpage based on zoom level.

The reason I wanna identify the rendering method is coz i wanna find a browser that has that implementation, and compare both rendering methods. Pretty sure the Sensation will not have that rendering style.

Unless, the whole thing is actually due to hardware acceleration (which I've read from youtube comments).

Anyway, by 'refocus' you mean the text become blur? Or 'text reflow'?
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^ah hah. Thanks to above two replies. I forgot where I heard it from, and am pretty sure now it's from PhoneArena.

Seems my hypothesis is kinda right, in that a screenshot (or pseudo screenshot, whatever it is) is taken and zooming is performed on it.

Sucks that text-reflow is not automatic.

Would be interesting to investigate the user experience of both rendering method, ie smooth but jagged text, or jittery but sharp in focus text.
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QUOTE(gzero @ May 5 2011, 06:35 PM)
I'm not familiar with the word 'text reflow' so i can't really comment on that. Actually what i think happen is, say your zoom level is now 100%, when u try to zoom it to 150%, as you zoom, the word is firstly stretched to 150% size without a change in resolution, so it'll appear blurry. Once you release the finger, the text will become clear again @ 150% zoom, hence the term "refocus". 

As for the older browser on older firmware, they text will remain sharp throughout your zooming.

I'm not sure if this is implemented on a hardware or a software level, but i believe it's software. I'm using stock browser btw, but i remember seeing it in Dolphin and Opera too if i am not mistaken.
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Hrmm... Dolphin mini on my phone has its text remain sharp all the time when pinch zooming was performed.

Text reflow is the phenomenon where the text rearranges itself for easy viewing on the screen. Like when you zoom into a paragraph, instead of the screen being in the middle of the paragraph (which is what happens on iOS, and some androids), the text rearranges itself to be read top down without scrolling left to right.
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bro ccm, i recommend joining the videos in youtube's video editor.
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post May 7 2011, 11:15 AM

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lol buy phone also play until so serious. whysoserious.jpg

When I buy my Desire Z kena delay 2 weeks due to low stock also tadak complain. 2 sellers, both deposit paid. In the end one after the other say no stock kena refund deposit. Complain pun tadak coz I know ppl doin business also.

There's no need to apply everything you learn into real life. Sometimes it makes you look like an a$$.

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post May 7 2011, 01:20 PM

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^yeah, that's a galaxy S exclusive feature, Video calls over 3G.
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post May 7 2011, 06:31 PM

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lol i believe no glass is scratch proof. Resistant, maybe but definitely not scratch proof. Unless it's made of diamond, nothing is scratch proof.

The videos on youtube did not use enough force to do the scratching.

And there's a saying that goes 'replacing a screen protector is cheaper than replacing the display panel'.

Interested at the camera quality as well.
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^ It's the first properly done dual core android phone with mind blowing Quadrant scores. Other than that it makes calls and does internet browsing like any other phone. Quite future proof though, this phone is.
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Do give alternative launchers (like Launcher Pro) a try before you give up on it. TouchWiz is not everyone's favourite UI. In fact I believe it'll achieve speed of light if you install Launcher Pro.

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ May 7 2011, 10:28 PM)
Most of us bought ut for RM2.8k at the same shop at SS15 today. I"m the worst person to ask if you switch because im a very new Android user, about 1 month. Have been an iOS user all the time. If you're asking if its slow, then the answer is no. coming from the HTC Incredible S, all i can say is that the SGS II screen is better BUT not by much.
my personal take?i feel the phone has been rushed out. It just doesn't have the polish that i should be expecting from such an expensive device. Every thing from the included ring tones to wallpaper "sucks". Thats all i can say. Am i disappointed? YES.
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Would you say the Incredible S offers a better user experience than the S2 then, without considering the cost of the phone and the hardware calibre of the phone?

Do give my suggestion of an alternative launcher a thought.

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lol give it a few more days. I believe you'll see the light in the monster.

Or maybe it's just a TouchWiz thing.
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QUOTE(phantomash @ May 8 2011, 11:38 AM)
locked bootloader doesn't mean you can't root it, it just makes it hard for the firmware to be modified
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locked bootloader is not the same as the signed bootloader. All bootloaders are locked when they leave the factory, but not all are signed. Signed means you need an extra step for the bootloader to be unlocked, which is to use a signature from the manufacturer to execute the unlocking process.

A signed bootloader, the Incredible S has.

Rooting can be done without unlocking the bootloader. But whether it sticks upon a reboot depends on the bootloader. Some phones do, some (like the newer HTCs) don't.

To add to the GG thing. Did you know that even diamond can be scratched by other diamonds? Nothing is scratch proof. It may have higher strength (like that bending test done on dragontrail), but scratch resistant/proof is a different ball game (it's hardness we're talking about, if you're interested).

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^pretty similar I would say considering the Devs need to do extra work just to get that damned thing unlocked.
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lol 10 minutes also will become hot la
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