Hey guys,

Just a short note... alterbridge86, the developer of the Overcome ROM is currently uploading version 1.6.1 of the ROM as I type...

For those waiting to upgrade or to try out Overcome, head over to the xda thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932082

Do remember to check out the installation guide v.1.6.1 too for the updated stocksafe file, as well as for the updated guide!

Cheers and have fun!

For those wanting to try out the new Skype... just get the Market Enabler app from the market, and set it to T-Mobile (US)... and you should get it...

Best steps would be, once you've installed the Market Enabler app, reboot.

Once it's rebooted, fire up the Market Enabler app, and set it to set it to T-Mobile (US). Then, go to Market and search for Skype.

This will only work for ROOTED phones only though....

Been testing my Tab in Russian for the last 24 hours, trying to clear up some of the bugs found in 1.6.0. Hopefully it paid off! ;-)

Do remember to check out the updated installation guide ya?

Cheers and have fun...

For the moment there are no plans to offer an updater file for 1.6.0 to 1.6.1, as too many system apps were changed within, in fixing the issues that arose from the partial translation and shoe-horning of the various locales.

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Added on April 22, 2011, 1:53 amI wouldn't dare claim any credit, as all the hard work was done by alterbridge86. I just help in testing and troubleshooting, and of course the guides. My role would be considered minimal in the overall development work... basically, chief guinea pig, that's all... ;-)

I've never come across such an issue. Was this an issue with other ROMs as well? One way to test would be to restock and check it while it's in the stock ROM. It most likely is a hardware problem if it still happens while in stock ROM, as the JMK-stocksafe.zip file is basically a stock European (dutch-based I presume) with just the protected bootloaders removed. Best way to diagnose... backup your data, of course... :-)


This post has been edited by thepittbull: Apr 22 2011, 01:58 AM

Suggest you don't! The P1010 which is the Galaxy Tab Wifi, is inherently different internally compared to the Phone/3G-enabled P1000 Galaxy Tab! For example, the 3G Tab for short, uses Samsung's Hummingbird CPU while the P1010 uses TI's OMAP chip. So while on the outside they look similar, it's inherently different hardware sets. Similarly not all GSM Tabs are the same, like those sold in Latin America, the P1000L are different too, from those we use...

Again, the Overcome was designed for GSM-based P1000 Tabs only. So please don't flash the Overcome ROM/kernel on the P1010 Wifi-only model.

Hmmm, that's interesting. Did you make sure to only backup only the user apps and data only, and not system apps. It's never a good idea to backup and restore system apps at all....

Do let me know what you find out...

Well, there's no harm to permanently rooting your phone, save for the debate about warranty of course, which I won't get into here... anyway, with regards to Overcome vs Modaco, well, I'm a tad biased towards Overcome, but here's my thoughts. Paul's Modaco ROM is a solid, stable ROM that is great for people that want a decent, optimised ROM for day to day use based on the stock version. However, there's not much updates that's being done on it.

Overcome, on the other hand, can be viewed like the cutting/bleeding edge development of Galaxy Tab ROMs... constantly updated and tweaked, with rapid-fire updates, which sometimes have some small, niggling bugs due to the constant tweaking for maximum performance and efficiency. However, don't take it to mean that it's not stable. It's solid enough for me for day to day use, to the point that I can even UNDERCLOCK the CPU to save battery life, due to its smoothness. I'm running at 800Mhz now but gives me the performance of Modaco running at 1.2Ghz.

So it's a trade-off that you'll have to decide for yourself. A rock-solid, no-fuss Modaco ROM or an extremely fast and inherently tweakable Overcome ROM, albeit with the small, minor bugs (that most Malaysians would probably not notice.) BTW, the latest Overcome ROM is based on the North Asian Froyo 2.2.1 base as compared to the European 2.2 Froyo base that Modaco is running. Both this ROMs are permanently rooted anyway, so the question of to root your Tab temporarily or permanently is moot when running these ROMs. :-)

(Anyway, should you choose to try out the Overcome ROM, do remember to grab the installation guide as well as the tips & tweaks guide that I've written. It's available on the first post in the Overcome thread at XDA. Just follow the installation guide exactly and you shouldn't have any issues....)

As to Titanium Backup... here's a constant rule of thumb that I'll always advise users. Backup and restore User Apps (and data) Only! NEVER EVER BACKUP SYSTEM APP & DATA, MUCH LESS RESTORING THEM! Restoring system apps and the data, is a sure-fire way to mess your system up when playing with customised ROMs! Anyway, @ashx: it's alright if you've backed-up "all user apps + system data", just hit the "Restore missing apps with data) only and NOT the "Restore missing apps + all system data"... next time, just hit the second button "Backup all user apps" only! :-)

Anyway, good luck and as ever, cheers and have fun... :-)

P/S... here's a couple of post-scripts that I wanted to add... Firstly, the 3G Galaxy Tab (the P1000 and its variants) does have a GPS module with A-GPS functionality... A-GPS is essentially Assisted-GPS which basically means that the devices that support AGPS functionalities are capable of using external data sources (such as your mobile data or wifi to augment its capabilities to triangulate/lock on to your location faster) As to the Galaxy Tab Wifi Only model (the P1010 and its variants) has different internals, with Phone Arena quoting that it has a GPS module while the US Page for the Tab Wifi, doesn't mention it at all. So, I'm not sure if it has it or not.

Secondly, have always wanted to thank Uncle Benny for his fine work in getting the Tab thread started and for maintaining it so well! Kudos on shepherding it to a V2 milestone! Cheers Uncle Benny!

This post has been edited by thepittbull: Apr 24 2011, 08:28 AM

Try and wipe your battery stats first... sometimes, when you install a new ROM, the battery stats file gets corrupted. Check out the Tips & Tweaks guide.

Yup, sometimes, you've got to do a couple of charge cycles... i.e. 100% -> say 5% or fully drained... then let it charge to 100% again for 1 full cycle.

So do this, charge it to 100%, let it run down to say the 3% warning comes up, and let it full charge again without interruption. I occasionally get those drops once in a while when flashing the ROMs...

Sometimes it takes two or three good cycles to properly/fully recalibrate...

A good app i use for charging cycles, is the Battery Doctor app...

That's right, just remember to do the cache and dalvik cache wipes while you're still in the CWM recovery after flashing the updater. Just a best practices advice from all our testing! ;-)

Oh yeah, the first boot after wiping the cache and dalvik cache can take a while, so don't panic... it'll resume it's normal "speedy" boot times after that first boot... it just needs time to rebuild the cache and the dalvik cache on the first boot...

This post has been edited by thepittbull: Apr 27 2011, 12:49 AM

When you flash with the Overcome v1.6.3 Updater and not the Overcome v1.6.3 Full Install file, you would be performing an "upgrade" with your data intact. So, what I advised was, while you're still in CWM Recovery (as the Overcome v1.6.3 Updater can only be flashed in the CWM recovery...) you might as well wipe the Cache & Dalvik Cache (and those two only!)

Wiping Cache and Dalvik Cache will not wipe the data in your Tab. It'll clean up all the cached operating data that apps use during its day to day use. To use an analogy, it's like cleaning up your Temp Folders and the files that Windows caches in the "Prefetch" folder to speed up your boot/app use. It does not wipe user data. Of course, it'll take a while for the system to start up during the first boot, as the system needs to rebuild these caches, but it's building up again from the new system files and all the applications residing within.

It's just considered best practices, and have been found to eliminate some small problems and cruft that has been building up over time. It's not a REQUIREMENT, but do you notice that whenever there's a problem/issue on the XDA thread after a (upgrade) flash , the first thing we'd ask users to do, would be to wipe these caches, to see if the issues/problems persist? (If it's a full install, of course, the first question would be, "did you follow the guide?" ;-))

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Added on April 27, 2011, 9:10 amYup, normally I'd do that too.. if there's an upgrade, I'd usually just do an upgrade. Saves time and the "lecehness" of backing up data, and restoring them, etc... But make sure it's from the same base, like a 1.6.0 or 1.6.1 to 1.6.3 upgrade, and not from a different base like 1.4.5 to 1.6.3. That would require a full wipe (and it's always recommended to follow the instructions from the guides found in the first post of the Overcome thread in XDA)

But once in a while, I'd always just do a restock and clean up my system, just like when you're using a Windows PC... after a while, most power users would just reformat their PC's and reinstall Windows from scratch again -- cleans out old rubbish accumulated, and starts a system clean and minty fresh again... ;-)

Just follow the guides there, and you should be fine...

Oh BTW, while the upgrades are constantly tested before release, sometimes a bug crops up that slips through the cracks of testing as well (seeing as we don't have a huge team to test... ) like the 1.6.2 update, it's always a good idea to sometimes do a nandroid backup (which is the backup tool you can find in the CWM recovery) before an upgrade. Just to be safe, and in case you need to revert back.

However, I know some don't do it, as the nandroid process can take a while... and sometimes in the rush to test things, I usually don't do it too, when it comes to an upgrade. It's an advice... but again, you need to know what you're doing to ignore conventional wisdom! ;-)

This post has been edited by thepittbull: Apr 27 2011, 09:13 AM

Hmmm... seems they're releasing the Gingerbread/2.3.3 (Build JQ1) for the P1000 models on the Italian front! We're waiting for it to drop... ;-)

Look's like Chainfire's got his hands on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1073854

As ever, it's best to let him work his magic first, as we know the latest firmwares has the locked bootloaders... so don't go flashing it yet, ok?

This post has been edited by thepittbull: May 11 2011, 09:21 PM

You found the easter egg! ;-)

Cool, my final tally with my experimentation on OC 2.0? 11 hours 54 mins of extensive use before it crapped out! I was just a wee bit too late to snap the pic to post on XDA before it crapped out on me! ;-)

Yup, as you've correctly pointed out, it'll be best to do the whole restock route, as from the many feedback we're getting, there's still some niggling but minor "leftover" glitches here and there going from the stock GB firmware. Don't misconstrue it to mean that you can't do a stock GB to Overcome 2.x, but best practice would be to have a cleaner slate by doing the restock route, according to the guide.

It's inherently faster and very well optimised, despite the RFS file-system found within. One irony is that, you'll encounter a very much lower Quadrant/other synthetic benchmark scores compared to the older much-optimised FroYo-based Overcome 1.x, which is attributable, we believe, to the RFS FS. This is one clear example, that synthetic benchmarks aren't the end-all when it comes to measuring a device and the experience it provides. Before pre-release battery of tests we've conducted, at best Quadrant gave me only 1,200! If you were to take the scores as the gospel truth, you'd think that the Gingerbread base is slow as molasses, but using it in real-life, it's definitely not so, right? ;-)

Well, here's a quick perspective: Yup, the Gingerbread base that Samsung has provided, is indeed a superb foundation to build on. Right now, what you're seeing is still based on the default kernel Samsung gave us, with not much optimisations yet! You can be sure, once the kernel sources are released, you can be sure the devs out there would be pimpin' their magic onto those customised kernels! Remember the early days when the 1.x Overcome Kernels/ROMs were only providing us about 1,400-1,600 Quadrant scores? Now, at the stock 1.0Ghz clock-speeds, the 1.x are easily breaking the 2,000 barrier! :-)

Bright future indeed...

Samsung definitely is improving their software back-end... kudos to them!

Shhh..... don't say it too loudly. ;-) but thanks for the compliment! I'll give you a secret I've never actually told anyone, not even the team... I was actually inspired by brother Benny here. When I first got my Tab, it was his original great instructions about rooting and flashing over to the MoDaCo ROMs/Kernel that got me on my journey in Android Samsung-style! Those of us, spoilt by the ease of HTC's Android infrastructure had a slight learning curve to overcome, and Benny's posts on that in his blog helped me on the way! In a way, it's a tribute to his selfless desire to help, that made me write the guides... Here's a belated thanks again Uncle Benny!

Anyway, with regards to the donation... well, I'll put it this way: alterbridge86 deserves all the donation! He's a very, very nice guy, and does all of this hard work with an absolute dedication and patience that I've never seen in a developer before! His level of tolerance and patience with the newbies is really amazing! I'm just so happy to help in anyway I can, and the satisfaction of doing all of this, certainly is the best reward! :-) That and the reward of always being the first to taste the latest Overcome ROMs/Kernels way fresh out of the oven, of course.... ;-)

This post has been edited by thepittbull: May 13 2011, 04:22 PM

LOL! Thanks again guys. I want to make this point clear first yeah, if you guys would indulge me? If you guys want to donate, best to donate to alterbridge86 at XDA... it's his work, seriously! :-) But if you really want to donate to me, nothing would really make me happier, than if you guys were to donate it to any charity for the poor or the orphans of your choice, as I know every sen counts more for them than for me! As for me, I feel that God has bless me enough already, and I'm happy with his providence... :-)

But having a simple informal teh tarik session sounds nice... lepakin' with fellow Tab fiends is always great way to spend time!

Thanks mate! Real helpfull! Will be so happy to use them... I'll update them now and will probably come out when the next beta hits...

It's all in the Overcome thread in XDA mate: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074759

You know there's an updater right? ;-) Just 16mb only ma...

@Mitmivec.... yup Uncle Benny is spot on. For now, just follow the steps according to Uncle Benny's details in Page 1, to at least get back to Froyo. Once you've got your tab revived, then follow the Overcome guide.

As I always tell the folks at XDA, just follow each and every step, carefully and patiently in the guide and you should alright. I think you skipped the pre-prepped and jalan straight to get the files and flash right? Don't worry, we all were like that once.... super excited when got new toy! ;-)

Yup, just give me a day's notice or two for any TT session... and I'm in.

This post has been edited by thepittbull: May 14 2011, 08:46 AM