Personally, I don't care for the media and their labels.

No I didn't compare Gilmour with that guitarist, I compared The Wall with the first track. Perhaps you should listen to the album before ranting. Not all music played on MTV are bad, you gotta live out of the media's influence and start judging music on your own. Just because it's mis-labeled or overhyped, it doesn't make it bad.

For me, it's First Rays of the New Rising Sun. Even though the album isn't complete, the songs here are much more structured and have a huge groove to it. Can't get enough of songs like Freedom, Dolly Dagger and Angel.

As for his live stuff, Band of Gypsys is amazing and the Isle of Wright DVD is a must.

Alright, so you've heard the album? Fair enough, I apologize for assuming that you didn't. Moving on...

So ranting is a healthy discourse? Mind you, this is a topic on recommended music albums and from the MCR album, you went on and rant about MTV. I would like to know how healthy it is to rant in a forum, we all know it rarely leads to a happy ending.

If you don't like what they're playing on the Rock Show, fair enough but I for one do not think they are "total dogs bollocks". So Keane and so forth are probably not your thing, however imo they still fall under the category of Pop Rock, thus Channel V does has its reasons for including it in The Rock Show. Perhaps my sentence "judging music no your own" is too vague... Did I assume that you can't judge music on its own merits? No. Do I think you fail to differentiate between music that is not your cup of tea and music that is 'total bollocks'? From your post, I couldn't help but think so.

As on the subject of Pink Floyd,
When I compared the track The End to The Wall, obviously I'm comparing Gilmour's guitar work on The Wall to the guitar work on The End. But your question was... and may I remind you :
"You're comparing David Gilmour to whateverhisname guitarist?"
Firstly, I'm not comparing David as a guitarist to whateverhisname guitarist, but merely their work on their respective tracks. The riffs & arrangements both are, without doubt similiar to that of In The Flesh.

The Wall is Roger's masterpiece and vision. If someone were to compare The Wall to some other album, the first things that come into mind are the rock opera theme, the lyrics, the dark-sounding Bb(?) key that was used throughout the album.
Unless you're assuming that the comparison is made from a guitarist's standpoint, that is.

And one final thing...
"in fact the first track reminds me of Pink Floyd's The Wall"
Your reply?
"You're comparing David Gilmour to whateverhisname guitarist?"
And?
"My earlier post did not for one moment assume that you are an idiot for expressing your opinion on the album and for your comparisons. I would appreciate it if your replies were written in similar vein - to myself or to others."

I rest my case.

Did Pix imply that you're a anti-MTV??? I don't know, but if so, your first post does indirectly imply that you're one. Not that I'm assuming that you are one, anyway.

2. Does it make a difference? Don't forget about the "wussy teen poppish music"... isn't that slating bands who weren't your cup of tea too?
3. If you put it this way, fine.
4, 5. The similarity between the 2 is too huge to be ignore. Like I've said, the lyrics, the rock-opera theme, the dark-sounding key as well as the riffs. I'm not being defensive, it just surprises me that you find it surprising to see comparison. I believe I'm not the only one or few who have made such comparisons... it shouldn't have surprised you.
And to answer your alternate view, I was merely comparing the first track of the album to The Wall. MCR's music on the whole, pales in comparison to Pink Floyd's imho.
1,6. Disagree, yes. Going further and rant about the Rock Show and so forth?

Perhaps you want to know why I view the questions on MTV and its mislabelling directed to me? Whilst I'm a fan of classic rock and blues, I'm also a huge fan of the music played on MTV - James Blunt, Keane, Coldplay etc... you name 'em. And perhaps you should respect the music listeners of this kind rather than dismissing them as "wussy teen poppish music". They're poppish (nothing wrong with that, eh?) music, but not in any way "wussy" or "teen".

PS: Wikipedia : Emo Music

Go on, you know it's irresistable.

I believe your post did not convey that meaning successfully.

Now that's surprising... so why is it Keane not rock enough for the Rock Show. Just curious here.

I think Pix knows where you're coming from & I doubt that he assumed that you're anti-MTV. He was just... being Pix.

Couldn't agree more. There're only 2 types of music to me, good and bad but like Diazepam said, he's not the type who could sit around and let the MTV generation getting brainwashed by the (mis-)labels. For me, I couldn't care less.

Cafe Del Mar??? Care for a review?

Yeah, Friday Night In San Francisco was amazing. Til this day, I can't believe how they manage to pull all those stuffoff.

And perhaps you also know why I stop posting there.

Uh-huh? I thought he was pretty ok with the guys in Jamtank?

To be honest, there are certain Jamtankers that I couldn't stand. I think you know who they are... and some of which you have personal feuds with.

Ahh I see, sounds like good stuff. Where do you get these compilations?

I meant that you knew what he's trying to convey.

His old nick was Gapster, he switched to Gapnap for God knows why.

Like I said, it was surprising for me that you couldn't see the comparison. That's why I jump into conclusion that you haven't heard of the album.

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM

The drum sound on this is top notch. It's a darn good album and the tracks are rather accessible. Scott Henderson's playing is jaw-dropping nonetheless.

I doubt so, everdying mentioned echobrainproject.

As for the other merlvyn, never seen his posts.

Yeah, he had the same nick there. Perhaps we should ask everdying to clarify this matter, he was the one who brought it up. I'm curious because like I've said, I always thought he was ok with Tankers.