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post Apr 14 2011, 09:42 AM, updated 15y ago

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The Federal Territory Bread Vendors’ Association has only 100 members now, compared with 400 in its heyday.

The bread vendors who are still servicing the hundreds of housing estates in the Klang Valley are mostly retirees, but they do not mind working from 4am to 11pm every day with only a few hours rest in between.

Amanula Sikander, 62, said he was used to the long hours and if he did not work, he would feel bored.

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Closely-knit community: Abu Bakar (right) having a light moment with Mohd Arief.

“I will deliver the bread as long as I can work. My regular customers still like to see me,” said Amanula, who has been selling bread around Kepong for the past 30 years.

Badre Alam, 72, raised his eight children with the meagre income he earned as a bread delivery man plying Jalan Ipoh.

“It’s been 50 years and I feel healthy working,” said the bearded grandfather with a stick of beedi between his lips.

He said the job was the only choice because he was illiterate.

Badre, who came from India, was grinning from ear to ear when he talked about his many grandchildren, but brushed off the idea of retirement.

The rotiman community is continuing to shrink as the city’s high cost of living has turned many away.

The two old rotiman are among 20 bread vendors who visit an old bungalow in Jalan Ipoh twice daily to replenish stock.

They have to share the bungalow’s rental that has increased to RM4,000. They also have to worry about fuel and repair, which will cost about RM300 per month.

Another vendor, Asokumaran Muniandy, 50, said they could make RM2,500 a month three years ago but now it is only RM1,500.

“People buy bread at hypermarkets now or near where they have dinner. Worse still, the commission is very little now,” Asokumaran said.

Without newcomers, even the association’s president Abu Bakar Abdul Samad felt that the rotiman business might soon die a natural death.

“It’s a tough job as they are exposed to the sun and rain every day earning only a pittance,” said Abu Bakar, who is now a bread factory’s distributor as 43 years of riding the bike under harsh weather had caused serious arthritis problems.

“I think the rotiman will just fade away when these seniors are gone,” he said.

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post Apr 14 2011, 09:44 AM

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sad but true.. i so very the seldom see any more 'po pu po pu' honk now.
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:46 AM

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wtf that cheapo roti with the white packaging dem good one. and Foah tis rotiman got the keropok durian , super ring and bika woahh this the best. and the green packet one also , this -ok ok only la.
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Kinda Sad Liow , i used to wait for the Rotiman in front of my house when i was small..
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:47 AM

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now adays got shopping mall everywhere, convenient store everywhere.... its that opportunity moment ppl will stop the roti man in days to buy if they got the chance to but in days everyone working.... then those who no working also dun wanna buy coz the roti expose to the sun for hours become roti panas...ppl no confident scare hotter roti faster expired and rather wanna buy from everywhere got convenient store like 7-11 to get cold roti.

i use to wait rotiman infront of my house to buy mamee, super ring and the chocolate cake in the pink white packet. very nice wan. blush.gif

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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 14 2011, 09:47 AM)
now adays got shopping mall everywhere, convenient store everywhere.... its that opportunity moment ppl will stop the roti man in days to buy if they got the chance to but in days everyone working.... then those who no working also dun wanna buy coz the roti expose to the sun for hours become roti panas...ppl no confident scare hotter roti faster expired and rather wanna buy from everywhere got convenient store like 7-11 to get cold roti.

i use to wait rotiman infront of my house to buy mamee, super ring and the chocolate cake in the pink white packet. very nice wan.  blush.gif
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Apr 14 2011, 10:46 AM)
wtf that cheapo roti with the white packaging dem good one. and Foah tis rotiman got the keropok durian , super ring and bika woahh this the best. and the green packet one also , this -ok ok only la.
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ffuuu roti krim keropok durian super ring and tora-tora i nostalgia naoos

i gona find rotiman after this drool.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:51 AM

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post Apr 14 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(double7 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:51 AM)
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HAHAHAHA this brings back memories hahhahahaha
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I still miss the choco cake in the packet about the size of an adult arm nowadays. smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:53 AM

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kampung kids will still chase la... oh i miss my childhood so much... especially rotiman + ice-cream-man hybrid... now city kids? no haagen daz also no layan
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 14 2011, 09:53 AM)
kampung kids will still chase la... oh i miss my childhood so much... especially rotiman + ice-cream-man hybrid... now city kids? no haagen daz also no layan
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so you are kampung gal ar? hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 14 2011, 09:55 AM)
so you are kampung gal ar?  hmm.gif
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rotiman when they pass by what sound one?
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QUOTE(romentheposmen @ Apr 14 2011, 10:58 AM)
rotiman when they pass by what sound one?
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*kling keling kling*


Added on April 14, 2011, 10:02 amthe bell sound

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post Apr 14 2011, 10:02 AM

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dying? im grateful my new housing area need climb slope somemore... the rotiman also dare to venture and honk honk. *respect*.


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post Apr 14 2011, 10:03 AM

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Eventually it'l be one of my childhood memories. Nowdays when I see a rotiman, I'll buy a Roti Susu for support, even if I'm not hungry.
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QUOTE(b3ta @ Apr 14 2011, 10:00 AM)
*kling keling kling*


Added on April 14, 2011, 10:02 amthe bell sound

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 14 2011, 09:57 AM)
yes, am 100% kampung girl  biggrin.gif
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so cool... you got a rumah atap beside the river, ducks and chickens beside the river maybe with one cat or dog.... you and your siblings bathing in the river while your mum washing clothes lower down.... smile.gif I always wanna live like this last time.
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i used to wait for the roti guy when i was small to buy those "Ding Dang" and "Tora". I wonder if they are still selling it now. and how much izzit now? last time was 50 sen for Ding Dang and RM1 for Tora.

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Apr 14 2011, 10:00 AM)
*kling keling kling*


Added on April 14, 2011, 10:02 amthe bell sound

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Since mine uses van, its *honk honk* laugh.gif

Anyway these days people are getting more modern. Things we 'oldfolk' enjoy aren't going to get the same treatment anymore. Which kid these days still eat those awsum breads? Most will go secret recipe, auntie anne, jco, krispy kreme, big apple, insert-more-expensive-bread-or-snack. As they say, 'tak standard la beli roti2 centuh'.
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QUOTE(romentheposmen @ Apr 14 2011, 09:58 AM)
rotiman when they pass by what sound one?
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my place even shout "ROTI!ROTI!ROTI!"
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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 14 2011, 10:05 AM)
so cool... you got a rumah atap beside the river, ducks and chickens beside the river maybe with one cat or dog.... you and your siblings bathing in the river while your mum washing clothes lower down....  smile.gif  I always wanna live like this last time.
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if i born 1 generation up then yes

later on my grandparents aredy upgrade the house to brick house, i born never get to stay in atap, and now the river-cum-waterfall, also converted to huge drainage system and the area developed to housing garden sweat.gif
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owh mang!!when my childhood i call this man BABU got the 20cent black packaging snack with free toys or sticker or eraser!!!
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wow, my place here in Jln Gombak still have this people.

Rounds are at 8.00 am and 10.00 pm....

Even have those ice cream moto with the "mat kool, mat kool kawan ku, mari kita ikut, mat kool! main main selalu, syoknya syoknya ada mat kool" song!
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Apr 14 2011, 10:19 AM)
wow, my place here in Jln Gombak still have this people.

Rounds are at 8.00 am and 10.00 pm....

Even have those ice cream moto with the "mat kool, mat kool kawan ku, mari kita ikut, mat kool! main main selalu, syoknya syoknya ada mat kool" song!
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yo budak gombak!
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post Apr 14 2011, 10:27 AM

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I think this is more than just the dying of a trade, is signals the dying for solidarity between Malaysians too. We prefer the impersonal act of picking things of wide and high shelves and dealing with cashier who are usually no more than barcode scanners. We even pack out own goods into the plastic bags ourselves. Hole ourselves up in the house, in the car, in the small group we go out with. We don't run out of the house without slippers anymore, we have to hide out legs beneath branded shoes, from what I don't know, the sun? our neighbors?
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Whoah. This is indeed diminishing slowly. Used to bought plenty of roti and jajan just before Mahgrib after playing basketball when I was a kid back then
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Apr 14 2011, 11:19 AM)
wow, my place here in Jln Gombak still have this people.

Rounds are at 8.00 am and 10.00 pm....

Even have those ice cream moto with the "mat kool, mat kool kawan ku, mari kita ikut, mat kool! main main selalu, syoknya syoknya ada mat kool" song!
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my generation's song is ........ "Paddle pop! wow! Paddle pop.Yea!" . If got budget, usually aimed for the crocodile-shaped ice-cream.
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:43 AM

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reminds me during childhood days

also not to be forgot other like ice-cream man, putu mayam rider,susu lembu/kambing man,pau seller as well!

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awwww, rotiman...!

i used to play at playground and since sure not bringing any money, when rotiman arrive, i'd say, "esok bayar", same like tomorrow, "esok bayar" for all week, then today i know my parent paid weekly lol...
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1) more highrise in urban, less chance for rotiman

2) gated housing areas

3) high crime rate, ppl lock up their door/gate and close it, hard to hear, leceh to come out to buy roti, kids dont play outside house anymore.

4) kids not at home - tuition all the time/play computer dont want to come to buy snak


Added on April 14, 2011, 11:50 am5) majlis/polis always stop them to kacau.


Added on April 14, 2011, 11:51 am6) younger generation do not want to work this job as it not comfort/dont pay well since education level now higher than long ago. pejam mata lulus dapat ijazah.

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 14 2011, 11:43 AM)
reminds me during childhood days

also not to be forgot other like ice-cream man, putu mayam rider,susu lembu/kambing man,pau seller as well!
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oO i remember putu mayam ones...dam like it that one ...no more edi....i miss that one mroe than roti.... ice cream man.... my area last time got one who serve self made ice cream...freakingly nice one...oso no more edi. btw...susu man do wad one? how they sell? RM1 per package?
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i am more of a displaced budak johor living in KL part of jalan gombak area.....
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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Apr 14 2011, 10:29 AM)
my generation's song is ........ "Paddle pop! wow! Paddle pop.Yea!" . If got budget, usually aimed for the crocodile-shaped ice-cream.
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LOL, my place has 3 ice cream motor vendor, 1st is mat kool, the other is polar which I really like the song ("P-O-L-A-R, ais krim polar!"), but my favourite is the magnolia ais krim motor vendor, because their ice cream tastes best among all 3....
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Apr 14 2011, 11:06 AM)
Since mine uses van, its *honk honk* laugh.gif

Anyway these days people are getting more modern. Things we 'oldfolk' enjoy aren't going to get the same treatment anymore. Which kid these days still eat those awsum breads? Most will go secret recipe, auntie anne, jco, krispy kreme, big apple, insert-more-expensive-bread-or-snack. As they say, 'tak standard la beli roti2 centuh'.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Apr 14 2011, 12:48 PM)
awwww, rotiman...!

i used to play at playground and since sure not bringing any money, when rotiman arrive, i'd say, "esok bayar", same like tomorrow, "esok bayar" for all week, then today i know my parent paid weekly lol...
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No wonder they aren't making much of rm25k per annum

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Yeah the good old days.

But living costs now, how la to survive. That's why no one do anymore.
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I remember I used to wait on them while in my house, once I hear their honk, will straight away try to stop them so I can buy biggrin.gif

Sometimes might miss it... then will feel sad. Will have to wait for another day.
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the roti man brings lots of memories to most of us and lucky me,they're still doing their rounds in my neighbourhood.I'll buy some keropok from them sometimes.
There was once i dont know where i saw a rotiman's motor with all the roti in a drain. cry.gif

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keropok durian.. hard to find nowadays..

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ahhh i still miss those days..wen i heard the horn sound behind my hse i would run thr n grab twisties...n oh..muruku ikan syok...
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they have the best bread mang

when I was a kid whenever I hear the honking sound I quickly ask my mum for money and wait for the rotiman
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This brings back childhood memory. Whether I heard the rotiman or ice cream motor coming, i sure ran outside to stop them so that my grandma could buy some bread or ice cream for me.
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Apr 14 2011, 12:25 PM)
the roti man brings lots of memories to most of us and lucky me,they're still doing their rounds in my neighbourhood.I'll buy some keropok from them sometimes.
There was once i dont know where i saw a rotiman's motor with all the roti in a drain.  cry.gif
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u remember we got this merchant...bring alot of colourful ball (inside is balloon) sell 3 by 3 ones....and a monkey on a stick...if u pull strings the monkey will climb up one....I loves all these when I was young I always nag parents to buy either one for me....not until...... until..... bandaraya come and catch them.... i still remember see the poor merhant force to leaves all his balloons on the floor and dbkl break all the monkey sticks and throw all of them into the big rubbish container... cry.gif until today i still feel sad for those poor merchants.... come one, they take away one....
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The rotiman in my area last time is the coolest, he sell yoyo and teach us kid some awesome yoyo trick!
Since they demolished our home to build this metro prima, i no more childhood
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my place got apek sell roti in van...and sometimes I think his roti is much better than the ones in bakery/supermarket

rite now seems very rare
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ahh.. the rotiman during my childhood time, sells roti with hot bilis sambal... drool.gif .. Ahh.. the good old time.
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haha i remember buying those junk food then later cannot eat dinner get scolding
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last time my roti man always speed like rempit, damn hard to stop him. i have to camp outside my house around the time he comes to stop him for my junk food. the bread last time very gooding also, still hot straight from factory.
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change all the motorcycles to this... buying roti will never be the same again

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It's dying because people come home at 8 pm. How the fudge do you expect rotiman to go pot pot pot at 8 pm? They always pot pot pot around 5 pm.
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fuuuuuuuu, very nostalgic la this ones. i remember last time when i stay with my grandma..every 4 pm got van will go to my cousin house, i always run to his house to buy all the gooding snacks...only 30 cent yo the keropok and gula asam boi drool.gif my fave..
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Last time after school sure buy snack... po pi po pi tunggu!!!
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i used to buy my breakfast from rotiman. long time didnt c any of them already sweat.gif
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now ppl also rike to stay in apartment, condos, rotiman come also nobody bothers
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my fav wuz the long bun wif kaya and planta.. thumbup.gif drool.gif

can tambah kaya for 10 sens.... for a cheap total price of 50 cents..

use to have it for tea every other day rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(double7 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:51 AM)
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Like it..
Now my son will say shout the same thing when the rotiman is leaving... he call the rotiman " babu, tungu..tunggu"
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:42 PM

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I still buy from roti man bout 2 to 3 times per week smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Kit II @ Apr 14 2011, 12:51 PM)
unsung heroes of our childhood life..
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:47 PM

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the roti batu also very nice all i w want
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post Apr 14 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Apr 14 2011, 03:22 PM)
change all the motorcycles to this... buying roti will never be the same again

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can each roti is rm10
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I miss waving my 2 ringgit note chasing rotiman while screaming "ROTI!! ROTI!!" back when i'm still a kiddo.......cry.gif
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QUOTE(JunWisewar @ Apr 14 2011, 05:51 PM)
I miss waving my 2 ringgit note chasing rotiman while screaming "ROTI!! ROTI!!" back when i'm still a kiddo.......cry.gif
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u can do it now also , even with pants down
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QUOTE(JunWisewar @ Apr 14 2011, 05:51 PM)
I miss waving my 2 ringgit note chasing rotiman while screaming "ROTI!! ROTI!!" back when i'm still a kiddo.......cry.gif
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Haha reminds me of waving my 1 ringgit coin at the pak cik jagung. 1 coin can buy 5x short sweet jagung.. wtf man.

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post Apr 14 2011, 06:03 PM

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I feel sad for them sad.gif
10 years ago, I always asked my mom to drive quick so I could catch the Rotiman passing by my street.

Then there was also the ice cream man. Always cycling up and down the hill. He doesn't pass through my street anymore. I am sad.
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QUOTE(double7 @ Apr 14 2011, 09:51 AM)
tunggu tunggu!
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applied to ais krim too laugh.gif
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kota damansara area still got rotiman, putu mayam man and aiskrim man

BTW i miss lokceng man..fish satay so gooding
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QUOTE(ketiak_masyam @ Apr 14 2011, 06:16 PM)
kota damansara area still got rotiman, putu mayam man and aiskrim man

BTW i miss lokceng man..fish satay so gooding
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i miss satay ikan too. very gooding, but i wonder what are the ingredients...

my place no more babu, seems like the kids no longer look for him
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QUOTE(seather @ Apr 14 2011, 04:56 PM)
my fav wuz the long bun wif kaya and planta..  thumbup.gif  drool.gif

can tambah kaya for 10 sens.... for a cheap total price of 50 cents..

use to have it for tea every other day rclxms.gif
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yeah man my fav too.but cant recall how much is it back then.mom always paid for me tongue.gif

luv to buy the jajan too biggrin.gif.usually buy those with free toys inside laugh.gif

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mann, another childhood memory that is going to fade in due time.....how i miss those rotiman.....

Last time, i also remember at night, got those people who send milk to our house as well....those milk very gooding one....
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QUOTE(straw @ Apr 14 2011, 05:37 PM)
... po pi po pi tunggu!!!
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thats sound mesmerized my memory...tq... smile.gif
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i like their margerin bun. it is very gooding. and some of them got sell those kaya buns also very gooding. haih i miss my child hood.

i cna only find pau vendor on bnike in pekan pahang only. his pau is gooding also.
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f*** THEM! Pin Pin but ride so fast one. never get the chance to get ahold of them nowadays. roti krim FTW
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QUOTE(Renegade67 @ Apr 18 2011, 08:06 AM)
f*** THEM! Pin Pin but ride so fast one. never get the chance to get ahold of them nowadays. roti krim FTW
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LOL Roti Krim so long I never eat already
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QUOTE(liez @ Apr 14 2011, 12:50 PM)
u remember we got this merchant...bring alot of colourful ball (inside is balloon) sell 3 by 3 ones....and a monkey on a stick...if u pull strings the monkey will climb up one....I loves all these when I was young I always nag parents to buy either one for me....not until...... until..... bandaraya come and catch them.... i still remember see the poor merhant force to leaves all his balloons on the floor and dbkl break all the monkey sticks and throw all of them into the big rubbish container...  cry.gif  until today i still feel sad for those poor merchants.... come one, they take away one....
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