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hwa107
post Aug 8 2005, 06:55 PM

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yeah i agree that programing skill is very important in developing a game. but planning is also important! without proper plainning nth u can come out with it.

wat i suggest is, keep on writing the doc, BUT!! make sure it's small, come out something that's very simple, make sure it's within ur ability range, so that u can at least start ur project.

after u have done the basic thing, ur game engine and so on, then only u expand ur idea, improve ur game, n add more interesting into it...

this is just wat i think, any comments r welcome! smile.gif
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post Aug 9 2005, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hunt @ Aug 9 2005, 08:53 AM)
In your opinion, what would be the ideal programming language? I know a lot of ppl say C++. It takes quite a while to really get a grasp of it. It will take longer for someone like me. (still i have to do it in the shortest time possible). How about for a beginner or for a small simple project like u suggested, what language should i should first get accustomed too?.
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flash? java? director? or even php! (web based game) any languange will do!! who say must C++? right?? laugh.gif

wat's the ideal language, i think is none! any language can create game, even javascript! however for a beginning, i would suggest flash, coz it's easy, n doesn't need lots of programing skills, n there r whole lot's of sample code outside, n even more free flash game out there that u can take as an example, n here got whole lot of them.

actually wat i trying to say is to urge u ppl to start ur project, starting ur projec is not easy, instead just think of ideas, like i wan to make this n that, y dun ppl go n actually do it? coz once u started it, mean u r doing somethng...

n yes i know the limitation of programing skills, actually me also facing this problem sad.gif but i dun think that will stop u from doing games right? think that as 1 of the obstacle u have to face, nth is easy on this world right?

btw, i dun thnk u should wait untill u fully master a certain language then only u can start making a game, not only C++ but other language also, coz this definally will take times. i suggest do while u learn, n learn while u do, u will relised that u actually having fun while learning something tongue.gif

that's my RM0.02, hope i din offended someone here, but if i do, i'm sorry. smile.gif

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hwa107
post Aug 9 2005, 11:14 AM

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ok guys i found this some time ago, try it n see smile.gif

Go to 'Start > Run' then type 'debug', after that paste the code below.

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And when the console finish copying, press enter and see what happen, to terminate the console just type 'quit'.

that's not C++ right? or any other common programing language that we used to see. but wat's it? i dunno also, but for me it's very interesting tongue.gif

This post has been edited by hwa107: Aug 9 2005, 11:16 AM
hwa107
post Aug 11 2005, 06:44 PM

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i c many of u expect very much from gaming industry, u ppl wan to make ur game, a very awsome one, with 3D graphic n very fast engine, coded with the infamous C++ language... that's true who dun wan right?

but do u know where to start? i mean, all u ppl think of is only programing, it's like, with programing skills u can guarantee to make a game, but wat about others? artist? games designer? level designer? do u know wat it takes to make a game? how bout game content? most important thing, have u ever try to make a game b4??

i bet when u go to interview they will sure ask u wat have done related to game b4, then wat u going to tell them? that's y i said, at least start some project, very simple one will do, then slowly go for more advance, after u understand how to make a game more a bit.

honestly programing is not the only thing, design is important also, as well as other aspect, like graphic design n so on...
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post Aug 25 2005, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 25 2005, 09:30 AM)
Another market that  small timer can go for is mobile phone games. They're 2D and easy to make. But you've to find a way to distribute and sell the game via those mobile service provider.
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YUP! mobile game, it's still very new n not many competitors, unlike other console like ps2 or pc games. i think if anyone of u wan to get involve into gaming industry should consider mobile games also. beside, 3D isn't always good, sometime i prefer the old fashion 2D style laugh.gif

for ur information there oledi got some mobile game company in malaysia, one of them is Unrealmind Interactive, the one who created Shabox thumbup.gif

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