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post Apr 12 2011, 10:15 PM, updated 15y ago

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Live broadcast now.

8 great players, super smooth stream, super fast game start.

This event is perfect.

http://www.dreamhack.se/

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/dreamhackTV
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post Apr 12 2011, 11:00 PM

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TLO played TvZ so poorly.......maybe this is what you get from not playing standard. trying to do weird stuff every game doesnt work everytime.
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 12 2011, 11:00 PM)
TLO played TvZ so poorly.......maybe this is what you get from not playing standard. trying to do weird stuff every game doesnt work everytime.
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he should not go for a macro game against IDRA. Looking forward to Huk's game!

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post Apr 12 2011, 11:55 PM

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Huk played equally as bad too doh.gif

Liquid player left Jinro only.
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post Apr 13 2011, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Apr 12 2011, 11:55 PM)
Huk played equally as bad too doh.gif

Liquid player left Jinro only.
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too much harass from Sjow. I love the banshee with 32 kills! Go WhiteRa next game!
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post Apr 13 2011, 12:49 AM

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=.= Liquid players tak boleh pakai.
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post Apr 13 2011, 12:56 AM

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WTF with the banelings song =.=
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post Apr 13 2011, 01:32 AM

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IDRA GOING FOR 6 POOL AGAINST MC WOOT
and nice blocking by MC.

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post Apr 13 2011, 01:49 AM

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MC is too godly

teamliquid = gg. they're all in a very very bad slump right now

i follow huk's and jinro's stream religiously and they're not doing so well =/
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post Apr 13 2011, 02:01 AM

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Come on SjOw! wub.gif

Owh SjoW cry.gif White-Ra vs. MC for final rclxms.gif

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post Apr 13 2011, 02:43 AM

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oh my battlecruiser also have to lose lol...
white ra vs MC, MC FOR THE WIN GOGOGO
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:12 AM

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WhiteRa: So I heard you like Pylon? I'll build two Pylons near your mineral line.
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:40 AM

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ROFL cheese, MC won 3-2 !
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:41 AM

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hahaha imba english by MC hahahaha
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:45 AM

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just when u thoguht whitera have the best special tactics?
MC have a better one...
balls for doing it in the final game!
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:47 AM

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crap how did the final game ended? =.=

my net lagged the last game hanged, got back and MC was walking out...fuuuu
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post Apr 13 2011, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Apr 13 2011, 03:47 AM)
crap how did the final game ended? =.=

my net lagged the last game hanged, got back and MC was walking out...fuuuu
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On April 13 2011 04:44 MayorITC wrote:
It wasn't just cheese. The sheer genius behind it is amazing.

1. MC has NEVER proxied before in any tournament.
2. White-Ra usually goes 13 gate.
3. White-Ra usually skips a zealot and goes 2 gate stalkers.

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Added on April 13, 2011, 3:50 am

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post Apr 13 2011, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 13 2011, 03:48 AM)
On April 13 2011 04:44 MayorITC wrote:
It wasn't just cheese. The sheer genius behind it is amazing.

1. MC has NEVER proxied before in any tournament.
2. White-Ra usually goes 13 gate.
3. White-Ra usually skips a zealot and goes 2 gate stalkers.

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Added on April 13, 2011, 3:50 am
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If Season 3 vs. MKP proxied two gates and final vs. Rain were not considered proxy I think I am gonna google the meaning of Proxy.
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post Apr 13 2011, 07:31 AM

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is it just me? or did MC kinda like...deliberately let WhiteRa take the lead and then went srs lol....the 1st gameplay was kinda uncalled for for the 2 pylon, 2nd was fast too...then the 3rd and 4th kinda went the usual style. eff....i want to watch the last game! grrr eff streamyx!
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post Apr 13 2011, 07:32 AM

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Those who miss part of some it here for VODs.

http://www.justin.tv/dreamhacktv/videos
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post Apr 13 2011, 02:26 PM

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watch 2 games during lunch time. Nvr knew Sweden got such a passion and huge crowd. The audience response and cheers to every good move. It is like the old days of BW where korean girls will simply orgasm when a storm casted or a tank blast.

SC2 growing outside of Korea certainly
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post Apr 13 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Apr 13 2011, 02:26 PM)
watch 2 games during lunch time. Nvr knew Sweden got such a passion and huge crowd. The audience response and cheers to every good move. It is like the old days of BW where korean girls will simply orgasm when a storm casted or a tank blast.

SC2 growing outside of Korea certainly
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post Apr 13 2011, 02:39 PM

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Sweden gaming community really evolving to another level and somewhat much closer to Korea already.

White-Ra really unlucky to lose at the final, but to be honest there is no disgrace taking 2 sets from god Protoss.


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post Apr 13 2011, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(westley0214 @ Apr 13 2011, 03:56 AM)
If Season 3 vs. MKP proxied two gates and final vs. Rain were not considered proxy I think I am gonna google the meaning of Proxy.
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jsut copy pasted from TL...

QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Apr 13 2011, 07:31 AM)
is it just me? or did MC kinda like...deliberately let WhiteRa take the lead and then went srs lol....the 1st gameplay was kinda uncalled for for the 2 pylon, 2nd was fast too...then the 3rd and 4th kinda went the usual style. eff....i want to watch the last game! grrr eff streamyx!
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nah whitera is good...
but he did the same opening every game and mc got up to it...
whitera been cutting corners to gain advantage and in the final game MC jz decided to punish him hard...
late scout, didnt scout around base when its that late, skipping the first zeal to get the 3 stalkers etc...
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post Apr 13 2011, 06:59 PM

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Sweden had been an Esport stronghold in Europe since forever.....they have really really good counterstrike and dota team and Esport is really something to them. Look, Jinro is so good.
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post Apr 14 2011, 07:22 PM

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just saw idra 6 pooled. wat?
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post Apr 14 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 14 2011, 07:22 PM)
just saw idra 6 pooled. wat?
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come on, he knows he stand 0 chance against MC in a str8 up battle. 6 pool gives him the highest chance to win, probably over 50%
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post Apr 14 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 14 2011, 08:01 PM)
come on, he knows he stand 0 chance against MC in a str8 up battle. 6 pool gives him the highest chance to win, probably over 50%
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on macro idra. yeah i lol'd
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:45 PM

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If u see in the first game, Idra was leading most of the time even though on more bases and much faster unit regrouping and strong macro.

But MC still stomp him like they were even or much further ahead. That's probably why he go for 6 pool especially Xel naga a 1 v 1 map which obviously not much Idra could do.
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post Apr 15 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 14 2011, 10:44 PM)
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on macro idra. yeah i lol'd
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i dun think u realize idra changed a lot...
his recent games are a beauty to watch especially due to his insanely good mechanics...
he did bling drop, the +1speedling build, hydra drop etc...
and look at his game 1 gosu overlord creep spread to reinforce his first attack...
honestly game1 idra had it if he hadnt gotten too greedy with his BL out of space...

as for 6pool...
actionjesus = 6pooled to 3.4k master...
it have almsot 80% win rate in ZvP from TL survey though good toss like MC would be able to handle it accordingly...
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Apr 14 2011, 11:45 PM)
If u see in the first game, Idra was leading most of the time even though on more bases and much faster unit regrouping and strong macro.

But MC still stomp him like they were even or much further ahead. That's probably why he go for 6 pool especially Xel naga a 1 v 1 map which obviously not much Idra could do.
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what, having his queens roflstomped is leading? mid ish game yeah, but never "most of the time"

oh "come back to the come back to the comeback to the come back" rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 15 2011, 12:18 AM)
i dun think u realize idra changed a lot...
his recent games are a beauty to watch especially due to his insanely good mechanics...
he did bling drop, the +1speedling build, hydra drop etc...
and look at his game 1 gosu overlord creep spread to reinforce his first attack...
honestly game1 idra had it if he hadnt gotten too greedy with his BL out of space...

as for 6pool...
actionjesus = 6pooled to 3.4k master...
it have almsot 80% win rate in ZvP from TL survey though good toss like MC would be able to handle it accordingly...
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yeah he actually changed a lot. i mean, he actually got a fighter pose instead of just standing there. i was fairly surprised.

seriously though, idra is known for his macro, and he still is more comfortable on playing macro. yes, i think anyone would've known that idra felt hopeless against MC, especially how it ended in game 1. point being people perceived him being "serious" for his 6 pool when looking from the bigger picture, idra in a way pretty much gave up hope. hell, you said it yourself that most high level plays no longer involve allins/rush/cheese. all involved long macros. and no doubt players the caliber of MC should be able to handle cheese/rush/allins etc without too much issue. he scouted the pool before the lings are at his doorstep after all giving him time to plan out/prepare on what to do.

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post Apr 15 2011, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 15 2011, 12:47 AM)
what, having his queens roflstomped is leading? mid ish game yeah, but never "most of the time"

oh "come back to the come back to the comeback to the come back"  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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u didnt realize tat losing queen is nothing when the toss cant do any pressure on the zerg...
u know hw far he was ahead in drones at tat moment?


Added on April 15, 2011, 12:54 amand no high lvl games are not only macro games...
there's lots of cheeses and allin build...
MC proxy 2 gated in the final game lol

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Apr 15 2011, 12:53 AM)
u didnt realize tat losing queen is nothing when the toss cant do any pressure on the zerg...
u know hw far he was ahead in drones at tat moment?


Added on April 15, 2011, 12:54 amand no high lvl games are not only macro games...
there's lots of cheeses and allin build...
MC proxy 2 gated in the final game lol
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i dont know man, thats what you said before.

how would i know? being a NA bronzer, and i rarely watch GSL (if ever) since my favorite protoss star isnt winning grand finals
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he was like 55 drones vs 22 probes b4 stargate harras starts. if MC could have canceled the 3rd, then he probably is ahead....but props to idra to be so ball, see protoss 1 basing without any scouting info regarding tech path YET decides to stay on 3 base tier 1 WITHOUT evo chamber.....i rmb he still can cancel his 3rd and go for a lair immediately when he saw protoss is 1 basing.

its like.......wtf


Added on April 15, 2011, 7:11 amit could have been fast collo, pheonix, DT rush, blink stalker opening....

but i love idra's burrow timing. perfect.....so nice to watch.

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MC is just like he proclaim~ GOD of protoss
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MC indeed is god.
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 15 2011, 07:10 AM)
he was like 55 drones vs 22 probes b4 stargate harras starts. if MC could have canceled the 3rd, then he probably is ahead....but props to idra to be so ball, see protoss 1 basing without any scouting info regarding tech path YET decides to stay on 3 base tier 1 WITHOUT evo chamber.....i rmb he still can cancel his 3rd and go for a lair immediately when he saw protoss is 1 basing.

its like.......wtf


Added on April 15, 2011, 7:11 amit could have been fast collo, pheonix, DT rush, blink stalker opening....

but i love idra's burrow timing. perfect.....so nice to watch.
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cause no matter what he is sitll way way ahead...
its cross spot...
idra is safe and from the results, his decision is correct...
there's no need to rush to lair to handle phoenixes...
he got his hydras in time to handle the VRs...

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Only for people who watched the final match between MC and white-ra
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post Apr 15 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Apr 15 2011, 08:07 PM)
Only for people who watched the final match between MC and white-ra
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post Apr 15 2011, 09:58 PM

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Jinro was scammed in his hometown? WTF I thought this only happen in China.
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post Apr 18 2011, 07:22 PM

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3rd/4th game of MC. zero sentries used AT ALL. it worked, and it gotten him 100k kroners.
hell, on 4th game, because he committed albeit too many sentries trying to buy time for the inevitable, sentries in a way, indirectly caused him that game.
he had the mineral surplus, it could've been zealots (which he didnt warp) or it could've been more stalkers saved the gas from sentries and it could've had a slightly better outcome instead of bringing in a passive probe scouter (no threat level for auto target AI), prolonged vision, VOILA BLINK IN I GG U NAO sorta deal.

i mean, yeah shit like that works, why the f*** not if i wanna do it? lol
and HAHAHA GOD OF PROTOSS SHOWING THE WORLD HE CAN KEJU HIS WAY TO 100K KRONER

and to those that wonder, yes i finally finished the VOD for the last few games (the one with part 1/2/3, about 5 hour 30mins ish) taking bits by bits of time in my office whenever i could. and thanks to Azurues who linked. else i wouldn't have bothered eitherway tongue.gif
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in the last game MC proxy coz MC knew white ra will skip the 1st zealot coz MC scouted throughout the 4game, he see it, he knew it, he countered it
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post Apr 19 2011, 06:09 PM

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and MC went for zealot 1st in every game so he very dulan why whitera noneed out 1st zealot. haha...

but then, he is still risking a tid bit IMO....he got a 50% chance of guess right the position and it will be checkmate, but if its the other side, whitera might be able to get 1 stalker out in time. eh, i would like to see if MC still can win the game onot if he proxied wrong base. the game might be closer.
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post Apr 19 2011, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 19 2011, 06:09 PM)
and MC went for zealot 1st in every game so he very dulan why whitera noneed out 1st zealot. haha...

but then, he is still risking a tid bit IMO....he got a 50% chance of guess right the position and it will be checkmate, but if its the other side, whitera might be able to get 1 stalker out in time. eh, i would like to see if MC still can win the game onot if he proxied wrong base. the game might be closer.
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Not true. On Stockholm's Shakuras Plateau, both side will 100% spawn on cross position. WhiteRa was misinformed. He scouted the wrong side.

Which is why map's information on every tournament is so important.
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 19 2011, 06:09 PM)
and MC went for zealot 1st in every game so he very dulan why whitera noneed out 1st zealot. haha...

but then, he is still risking a tid bit IMO....he got a 50% chance of guess right the position and it will be checkmate, but if its the other side, whitera might be able to get 1 stalker out in time. eh, i would like to see if MC still can win the game onot if he proxied wrong base. the game might be closer.
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post Apr 19 2011, 06:48 PM

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cross?? nt even both top or both bottom a
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Apr 19 2011, 06:48 PM)
cross?? nt even both top or both bottom a
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Yup. It's a modified version of old Shakuras. To prevent backdoor abuse during TvZ.
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post Apr 19 2011, 07:04 PM

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wow then..........then i think MC have no reason not to cheese an opponent who take for granted that MC wont cheese.

its real money man...its like 6 pooling a terran who 14 CC every game or proxy rax a zerg who always hatch first....

 

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