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 Please Recommend... a Hifi Stereo System, Pls state your budget pls!!!

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scouser7
post Nov 13 2014, 07:08 PM

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Complete noob here. Looking a decent home theater system to connect to my Panasonic th-p50u20k plasma tv(it has hdmi arc). Im looking for something where the front speakers could fit on top of my TV cabinet and not placed on the floor. I don't need rear speakers coz cant stand seeing the long wires and due to space constraints. Please see attachment. Budget : RM3K. Im from Cheras. Txs in advance icon_question.gif

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post Nov 13 2014, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 13 2014, 07:55 PM)
yourr tv has headphone port or rca output?
as i know you can maximize the 3k budget getting a pair of good qquality bookshelf spkr and stereo integrated amp by analog connection.
it is better than spending hdmi arc device or other half baked technology stuff
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whoosh!! just just flew over my head...lol.
Im interested to know more if you dont mind explaining a bit what you mean. I mentioned HDMI ARC coz sumone mentioned it in an earlier post. Sorry for the trouble blush.gif

Anyway, confirm my TV has RCA output and headphone jack icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 16 2014, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 13 2014, 10:40 PM)
got plenty choices, hard to recommend directly. anyway i'll make it short, hopes u can catch up...

HDMI-ARC function is transfer audio data to a decoder, then play using external speakers. RCA does the same for 2 channel (left and right sound). whats make the different between HDMI versus RCA is extra ability to carry 5.1 surround.

in your case dont need surround, so why not buy speaker that able to fit on table + stereo amp. thats the best combination for sound quality.
the size is smaller and setup as easy as plug & play.

the weakness, because all in analog connection (RCA), tv has to receive all hdmi cable.
do you planning to add other video player? if true i affraid ur tv may run out of hdmi port...

the 2nd choice would be AV receiver. a.k.a. home theater amplifier with many hdmi ports. got HDMI-ARC !!
all are digital connection (non-RCA) and support latest movie codecs like Dolby TrueHD, DTS-MA and plenty more like do-re-mi-fa-so...
entry level can drive 5 channel speakers. better ones give 7 channel, network (for music streaming & remote apps), usb port and auto calibration.

it takes more space and u might wasted the additional channel because you dont plan to have rear speaker.

for speaker, need to know the depth measurement of cabinet first icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 14 2014, 10:39 PM)
it really depends what you want out of your system

3k can get you basic stereo amplifiers and bookshelf speakers. basic amps nowadays have at least 4 to 5 analog inputs which is more than enough

so newer amps can even connect digital connection direct, ie; NAD D3020 where you have optical and coaxial inputs

your source can connect to the stereo amp via normal analog cables directly or via tv (which i don't recommend)

I mentioned about ARC in previous post was bcoz someone asked what could he get for 1k.....sort off not much of a choice

speakers.....plenty choices with 1k +/- budget
in my list now....XLS Encore....local made from Sarawak......honestly speaking....kinda great sounding speaker for that price
of coz you have the usual lists of speakers like KEF, Mission, Wharfedales and etc
if you are into futuristic plus a little lifestyle wanna look fancy, KEF X300A with or without wireless is one good choice
if you are thinking into future expansions for home theatre system....you can start with a basic pioneer HT amp and basic speakers.

at the end of the day.....its what are your expectations of your sound system and what features is a must....

there's plenty of second stuffs going around....some are a bargain....

head down to few shops like Highway Laser @ SS2, Amcorp mall, Desa Home Theatre and etc.....they have packages as well

if you need to understand connectivity....let me know...be glad to help
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First of all guys, thank you for ya replies. Appreciate them truly.

Does any of the integrated amps have wireless connectivity, ie say i wanna connect my ipad or tab to listen/watch movie? There are some soundbar that have that feature but im not sure about amps. Or is there sumtin else that does the job?

Also, there are a few soundbar that can give a faux surround sound, but how can i have that surround sound with just front bookshelve speakers?

tq


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post Nov 17 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 17 2014, 11:15 AM)
am afraid for int amps.....i've never seen one with bluetooth or wifi capability that allows your ipad/iphone connect wirelessly.

for those stylish speakers yes....

i think audiopro might have the solution.....you can check their website

for those sound bar.......they rely on sound reflection and multi angled speaker reflection to produce virtual surround....its ok if you are not a surround fan fever
but if you are.....sound bar is not your choice
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I think I found the solution..."Wireless/Bluetooth Speaker Adapter". rclxms.gif This Adapter allows you to turn just about any set of speakers/surround sound system into Bluetooth/wireless capable speakers. Saw this on youtube http://youtu.be/3Am9psYGt2E.

Anyone using this device on their sound system? Good idea/bad idea? If this works then i'll ditch the idea of gettin a soundbar brows.gif
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 13 2014, 07:55 PM)
yourr tv has headphone port or rca output?
as i know you can maximize the 3k budget getting a pair of good qquality bookshelf spkr and stereo integrated amp by analog connection.
it is better than spending hdmi arc device or other half baked technology stuff
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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Nov 14 2014, 10:39 PM)
it really depends what you want out of your system

3k can get you basic stereo amplifiers and bookshelf speakers. basic amps nowadays have at least 4 to 5 analog inputs which is more than enough

so newer amps can even connect digital connection direct, ie; NAD D3020 where you have optical and coaxial inputs

your source can connect to the stereo amp via normal analog cables directly or via tv (which i don't recommend)

I mentioned about ARC in previous post was bcoz someone asked what could he get for 1k.....sort off not much of a choice

speakers.....plenty choices with 1k +/- budget
in my list now....XLS Encore....local made from Sarawak......honestly speaking....kinda great sounding speaker for that price
of coz you have the usual lists of speakers like KEF, Mission, Wharfedales and etc
if you are into futuristic plus a little lifestyle wanna look fancy, KEF X300A with or without wireless is one good choice
if you are thinking into future expansions for home theatre system....you can start with a basic pioneer HT amp and basic speakers.

at the end of the day.....its what are your expectations of your sound system and what features is a must....

there's plenty of second stuffs going around....some are a bargain....

head down to few shops like Highway Laser @ SS2, Amcorp mall, Desa Home Theatre and etc.....they have packages as well

if you need to understand connectivity....let me know...be glad to help
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QUOTE(ktek @ Nov 18 2014, 02:39 AM)
thats a bluetooth audio transceiver. its using the same concept as wireless sound bar u have seen, so the advantage is enable playback on better quality speakers instead of tiny sound bar.
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OK I've decided to ditch sound bar and go for bookshelve speakers n stereo intg amp. Budget <$4k.

Will go survey this weekend. Appreciate any tips and recommendations. Tq. smile.gif


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post Nov 18 2014, 03:41 PM

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Can i run speaker cable parallel in the same conduit with electric cable inside wall? I see this as the only alternative if i plan to have rear speakers in future. Pls advice.
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post Nov 18 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Nov 18 2014, 01:53 PM)
a good quality soundbar would be the most convenient if you are not too demanding on sound quality... it would most probably look good too and won't be any worst than your TV speakers if you are into those lifestyle stuff...

HDMI ARC is usually meant for AVR in case you want to playback sound from your TV using your home theater such as using your TV to view movies via a usb hard-drive or watching astro... technically astro can also be connected to the AVR's hdmi input but that will require you to power on your AVR everytime you want to watch astro.. so, some people will connect astro decoder directly to TV and let astro's audio stream to the AVR via the TV's audio return channel...

with HDMI-ARC connected to soundbars... i think there are even certain aspects of the soundbar can be controlled with 1 single remote... not too sure on this though...

if you have a lot of external sources like a console, bluray, media player... then it's more worthy to invest in an AVR so all the connections can be consolidated into a single AVR and you have less cable clutter running around compared to a stereo setup...
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I was leaning towards the JBL SB400 soundbar but it cost about RM3600. I think about RM4K i can get sumtin better than a soundbar. I like watching movies and my wife loves listening/streaming music...so got to find the right system.

Im actually clueless as to what to look for but I think I would probably get a good idea after visiting a few hifi centres during the weekend. Of course I would seek all the sifu's advice here before taking the plunge sweat.gif

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post Nov 18 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(nm7 @ Nov 18 2014, 04:46 PM)
you have to think of the long term setup rather than the costs you have to invest now... no point spending it than realizing you have to change your setup sometime later...

the people who would opt for soundbar are people who expects something better than the sounds coming from their tele while still maintaining some form of stylishness or able to blend it into their living area...

that is why HTIB has started to lose popularity in recent years and has grown to become tinier and tinier...

if you really don't have to dough to fork out now.. it's better to save up more than rushing into things...
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out of curiosity, how much "dough" are you talking about? hmm.gif

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