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 Please Recommend... a Hifi Stereo System, Pls state your budget pls!!!

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wim1983
post Dec 16 2014, 08:42 AM

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Anybody know where to look for Rotel amp?
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post Dec 16 2014, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 16 2014, 05:04 PM)
Perhaps you can consider mINT,

https://wyred4sound.com/products/integrated-amps/mint

to me, they have really good bang of the buck, but most importantly, they sound really really good.

I particularly like the small footprint which I can hide it inside the cabinet.
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hmm, the price is too high though sweat.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 16 2014, 02:28 PM)
B&W showroom in PJ.
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Any clue how much Rotel RA-12 cost? tongue.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 17 2014, 08:31 AM)
They are having a christmas promotion, USD1099.
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If going to buy MINT, it's a better choice to consider Arcam FMJ A19 hmm.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 17 2014, 11:58 AM)
Both are good amps. It all depends on what do you want.
If you streamed digital music, looking for space saver, you go with the mINT.
If you have lot of analog source, your go for A19.

But the former give you 100w per channel, built-in dac, lot of balanced connectors, and much lower THD.
Most importantly, it is direct sale, no excessive mark-up. Of course, this tarnished by weak ringgit today.
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hmm, is 50W for stereo? hmm.gif Almost 4K blink.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 17 2014, 06:45 PM)
hmm.gif What do you mean?
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For such small device, 100W delivery is a doubt, I think logically it should be 50W instead, at 8ohm?
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Problem @ Dec 17 2014, 10:28 PM)
There's no issue with having extra watts for something that is not so demanding (i.e: bookshelf speakers, efficient speakers, etc). Just gives you more headroom to manage your speakers frequency response without clipping/distortion.

My current amp currently does 75W at 8ohms, and listening it as a near field listening from bookshelves (86db at 6 ohm impedance)

Edit: misread your question, the form factor does not exactly dictate how much power it can do. Some small ones can output of power provided the transformers can handle it.
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hmm, I get what you mean notworthy.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(fx20 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:31 PM)
They deliver 170w into 4 ohms. Size? They are class d with analogous power supply.

You have not seen my 130 watt per channel power amp, they are about the same size.
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What's the final price for the integrated amp?
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post Dec 18 2014, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Dec 18 2014, 10:22 AM)
bro Problem is right

just for everyone's knowledge sharing

Watts does not represent how good the amp will push the speakers
neither does higher watts they sound better

it is merely an indicator of its power output....and alot of manufacturers tend to provide bad info

example of a good amp manufacturer...will provide a measure of the power from 20Hz to 20kHz......why???
that's because at different frequencies, the power output varies....
and the lowest and the highest frequency range requires the most power

good manufacturers provide the the average output from 20Hz to 20kHz....

example from Audio Research and Mcintosh:
200watts @ 8ohms minimum power 20Hz-20kHz this is a damn powerful amp for basic listening

the next factor is damping factor, which tells you how much the amp can grip the speakers....this is a subjective measurement but generally used by many
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How would you categorize Marantz PM6005 if compare to NAD D3020 or NAD stereo integrated series? Warm? Neutral & transparent but with musical feel? And in terms of volume & power control, which amp would you recommend? notworthy.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 18 2014, 08:33 PM)
marantz is not warm (a.k.a. midbass centric), more to voice, realistic and tame down aggresive speakers.
depends la, if u match with laid back speakers, it may sound a bit closer to warm tone

nad new model need to ask owner to give listening experience. but i see nad dont have treble bass tone control and speaker A + B function
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So far, I see no complain about Marantz PM6005, also the tone controls are always welcomed as additional feature in case to pair with different speakers with different signature notworthy.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Dec 18 2014, 08:54 PM)
marantz sounds more forward compared to NAD....NAD is slightly more layback
but again...this depends what sort of speakers and cables you pair with.....plus the source

if you ask me....i'd say marantz KI signatures anytime......i personally have compared CD6000 vs CD6000 OSE vs CD6000 KI Edition

CD6000 KI Edition wins hands down......and that has been a player i used for a very long time until i had the moo for an Audio Research

I've not heard the latest marantz.....whether have they improved or retained the same....

but if you don't mind used market......Marantz KI Editions are worth while....even the amps with KI edition......

the tonality, musicality and sound is really balanced, organic and neutral

i had that paired with Sonus Fabers Concertino Home.....boy it was awesome
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Actually initially I only intend to buy stereo amplifier, without CD/DAC support, but then it's a good bargain with SPDIF/Optical input from Marantz PM6005 thumbup.gif
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post Jan 9 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(GI Jie @ Jan 9 2015, 01:07 AM)
Marantz paired with Dynaudio speakers. Add in a subwoofer and you"ll have a great setup. I know cos I set up the Marantz PM6005, Marantz CD6005, Dynaudio DM2/7 Speakers and BMB Subwoofer in my study and it can challenge the setup in my sitting room which comprises a Krell S550i, Krell S350a, Krell Phantom III and Sonus Faber Guarneri. No joke.
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hmm, Dynaudio DM2/7 really good? What's the price? Where can I get it? Also recently I found a speaker brand from Dennmark called System Audio, heard a lot ppl said that it can sound filling the room even the size of bookshelf is small, but then the price is like XXXX sweat.gif , will Dynaudio sound sth like that? Filling and more airy, tight and controlled bass? Is this coloration to the sound? Surround sound speakers? I'm pretty confuse about them now rclxub.gif

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post Jan 13 2015, 08:35 AM

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Just got a pair of Wharfedale Denton, it's very good for small room, just need to burn in to open the sound, also I think it need more juice, but not at the moment, haha coz my wallet out of juice =.=
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jan 15 2015, 09:37 PM)
Denton looks best pair with tube amp. but best sound with more wattage biggrin.gif
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Hmm, tube got a cycle for "mood", lifespan is pretty troublesome for me to maintain, so I still prefer solid state integrated amp, currently using PM6005, the Wharfedale Denton getting better with it whistling.gif , next year will aim for amp with power around 100watts, sth like Rotel or Arcam? brows.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(GI Jie @ Jan 16 2015, 01:17 AM)
I bought it new for MYR3,320
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wow, well price a bit high as usual for dynaudio hmm.gif , the Wharfedale Denton I bought really good price, just because there is minor crack on the wood egge thumbup.gif , so lucky rclxm9.gif

Between, how's the Dynaudio sound signature? Warm? 3D? Room filling airy sound? Tight and controlled bass? drool.gif
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QUOTE(GI Jie @ Jan 16 2015, 01:17 AM)
I bought it new for MYR3,320
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wow, well price a bit high as usual for dynaudio hmm.gif , the Wharfedale Denton I bought really good price, just because there is minor crack on the wood egge thumbup.gif , so lucky rclxm9.gif

Between, how's the Dynaudio sound signature? Warm? 3D? Room filling airy sound? Tight and controlled bass? drool.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(hushymushy @ Dec 18 2014, 10:22 AM)
bro Problem is right

just for everyone's knowledge sharing

Watts does not represent how good the amp will push the speakers
neither does higher watts they sound better

it is merely an indicator of its power output....and alot of manufacturers tend to provide bad info

example of a good amp manufacturer...will provide a measure of the power from 20Hz to 20kHz......why???
that's because at different frequencies, the power output varies....
and the lowest and the highest frequency range requires the most power

good manufacturers provide the the average output from 20Hz to 20kHz....

example from Audio Research and Mcintosh:
200watts @ 8ohms minimum power 20Hz-20kHz this is a damn powerful amp for basic listening

the next factor is damping factor, which tells you how much the amp can grip the speakers....this is a subjective measurement but generally used by many
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well, I heard of Mcintosh, but the price make me stop shocking.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jan 16 2015, 09:53 PM)
I have only heard Denton pairing with PM6004 in KLIAV, still not enough juice for Denton  brows.gif
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yay rclxms.gif , need more juice biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2015, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(GI Jie @ Jan 17 2015, 12:31 AM)
Get the PM8005 instead. 70W into 8 ohms compared to 45W for the PM6005.
Or get the Marantz PM11S3 (100W) or better still get the PassLabs X350.5 or XS300  whistling.gif
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thumbup.gif Good idea, that will have to wait sweat.gif , btw how much PM8005?
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post Jan 17 2015, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(GI Jie @ Jan 17 2015, 03:17 AM)
Wouldn't have a clue cos I already have 2 amps and not looking at Marantz anymore.
Ask me how much my next target is (PassLabs XS150) and I can tell you

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wow, that a bit too big for my taste sweat.gif , so "cow" ady, I prefer something just enough and compact, you know sth like Hegel H80 drool.gif

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