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post Oct 24 2011, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(gsdfan @ Oct 24 2011, 01:10 AM)
From my experience as a sales assistant in a pharmacy, most customers who request for emergency contraceptive pills didn't consult  doctor for it. They came for the "morning after pill" mostly without prescription letters. In fact they are not educated about RISK of overdosing the pills. These would usually result in hormonal imbalance of the body and may increase risk of cancers caused by sex hormones.
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there is no prescription required for the emergency contraceptive pill. but it seems to me that a lot of Malaysian women think that the emergency pill can be taken on a regular basis ... which is a great indicator of how shitty our sex education is.
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post Oct 28 2011, 10:42 PM

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I agree that men should also be educated about sex ... but the women who ARE anyway are retarded about it. go look around - so many stupids
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QUOTE(jorakman @ Nov 25 2011, 11:58 AM)
Hi. Can i ask you about Emergency Contraception?

The morning after pill, does it has any brand? Can you recommend some of them?  How much usually it cost if i buy it at pharmacy?
Yes there are particular brands for the Plan B pill, but brand names do not matter .. only the method (single pill or dual pill etc.). I am not familiar with those available in Malaysia, and suggest you ask the girls like munkeyflo and uest91 and some of the other women in this thread for these things, though I have heard of Postinor 1 and 2. I don't know how much it costs in Malaysia, again please refer to the girls I have mentioned, or look through the thread.

How to consume the pill?
Swallow it like you would a regular tablet. Preferably as soon as possible. It is most effective within 24 hours of unprotected sex, and least effective after 72 hours

I read about some article regarding the side effect of the pill : nausea, headache, etc. Is it very seriously pain?  sad.gif
Every single medication you take - for the flu, heartburn, headaches, everything - will have side effects. No they should not be very painful. If they are, see a doctor.

How to know to stop consume the pill? (Since the pill is not for long term).
There is a limited number you need to take. Don't worry about it.

Is there any condition where she is not suitable to take the pill?
If she is on medication like antibiotics, because this lessens the effect.

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post Jan 29 2012, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Dec 27 2011, 03:27 PM)
Spunkberry, I notice quite a number of people asking about ECP here.
Just for their info, there's a whole thread about ECP in H&F section. I think it should go into the first few posts so people will be directed there as there's tons of info on ECP there.  wink.gif

Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/176435
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just in case you think I've ignored you for a month, lol I've edited the first page to put it with ECP smile.gif
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post Aug 3 2012, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:06 PM)
hey girls,

for those of u who are taking BCP, do u experience vaginal dryness problem?
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no I have not experienced this, but I am only one person.

QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Aug 1 2012, 06:08 PM)
If a girl rarely have period, then she take the pills, and period comes (±7 days after pills). Is it possible for her to have another period about a month after the last time she had one due to the pills?
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Being on BCP does not quite eliminate your period. every month there is a week she takes placebo pills (or however many depending on the brand) and during this time, she will experience a light bleed. This is the withdrawal bleed, usually taken to be a period even though it is much lighter than a regular period.
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post Sep 6 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(omg528 @ Sep 5 2012, 08:28 PM)
Just wanna ask ...why girls take BCP? is it because their bf can shoot inside?LOL...
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No, and I suggest you remove your ignorance before resorting to asking dumb questions.

QUOTE(RaCheL.Yii @ Sep 6 2012, 02:15 PM)
im taking hormone pill to regulate my menstrual cycle
doc said take about 6 months to 1 year time to regulate my menstrual cycle
n it will cz us gain weight
i take 4 3 months n stop it
n sum of my frenz said if take d pill cnt pregnant nxt time
i duno true anot.. unsure.gif
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your doctor is correct that it MAY take you 6 months to a year to regulate your cycle. the actual time is cannot really be charted, since it's different for everyone.

it is generally untrue that you will gain weight, but I say this only because every woman is different. I did not gain weight myself, on BCP.

your friends are also lying. The pill has been around since the 1950s and the global population is still growing. what does that tell you?
it will take LONGER for you to become ready to conceive, since you would stop BCP and wait until your period starts coming back regularly (sometimes this may take up to a year or so after coming off BCP) and then when you start trying to conceive, you take your temperature and chart your cycle etc. etc. The pill does NOT affect your ability to have children.

What the hormones in a pill actually do is trick your body into thinking it's pregnant. Then, because your body thinks it's pregnant, it stops releasing your ova. If you stop BCP, you stop telling your body that it's pregnant, and eventually it will start releasing ova again.
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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Oct 22 2012, 08:19 PM)
Want to ask, is weird that a guy walking to farmasi to get the birth control pill? Wanna buy it to my gf to avoid accident...>< so what and which brand did sis recommendation?
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No it isn't strange, but you cannot buy BCP over the counter. Only the morning after/emergency/Plan B pill is available over the counter. BCP is available by prescription only, so your girlfriend has to go see a gynecologist and get a prescription for it. I cannot recommend any brand because each woman is unique and therefore will react differently to different medications.

Good luck.
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post Feb 27 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sizty @ Feb 25 2013, 01:33 AM)
Hi, got one question. If i want to have unprotective sex in May, should I start using BCP now or in April after my period (about 1month gap before sex)?
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QUOTE(phenally @ Feb 26 2013, 09:48 AM)
got a question. Hope someone can reply ASAP

i am taking yaz 28 days BCP

if i have unprotected sex on the first week of the pill , do i still need to take morning after pill?
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There are two possible situations for starting your pill. Either you start on the first Sunday after your period, or you start on the first day of your period (when your period starts on a Sunday).
If you start the pill on the first Sunday after your period, you are NOT SAFE for the first week. You will only be protected after 7 days.
If you start the pill on the first Sunday of your period (that is, your period starts on a Sunday and you start the pill then), you will be protected.

So to Sizty, yes you should start now. Why are you waiting for certain months? either you're on the pill or you're not, it's not something you take as and when you please. In fact, most Malaysian women are so afraid of infertility due to the pill that they pick and choose when they take the pill, and to be honest, it does worse things to your body because what the pill does is trick your body into thinking it's pregnant. On and off, on and off pill taking is going to screw with you.

To phenally, that depends on when you started the pill. If you started on the Sunday after your period, you're an idiot and can't read instructions.
If you started on the Sunday your period started, you're fine.

I would also like to point out that you need to take the pill at the same time every day. I've seen women around these forums who say they take the pill whenever they remember. Happy Mother's Day when you realize your dumb error.

I would also like to explain my animosity towards women who don't know how to take the pill properly, or even know how to practice safe sex. I've lost my patience with the sheer number of women who don't know anything about being safe about sex and yet are having it, the number of women who don't know how the pill works, the number of women who don't care to read up (even basic instructions included with the pill packs) and research before having sex. This is why I created this thread.

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post Mar 3 2013, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Sizty @ Feb 28 2013, 10:20 AM)
The reaaon why so many ppl are ignorant about this topic is because lack of sex education. Even in pre marital course they don't explain much of family planning. One have to google and ask forums to get answers on BCP.
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I never had a formal sex education either, I grew up in Malaysia. what I know has been through my own research. Lack of sex ed is not an excuse.
The number of women who think that the pill causes infertility... *facepalm* The pill has been around since the 1950s and the global population is still growing. I WONDER WHY. The cases of infertility are very rare, mainly from early stages of the pill's development.

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QUOTE(Sizty @ Mar 27 2013, 01:59 PM)
Hi there or anyone,

Aha! I started using Yasmin and now is my free tablet interval. The interval started last Sunday and my period just came today (Wed). My period has been delayed about 6 days (normal cycle 30 days and it is regular) and will it affect the next period due?

If it resumes to 30days cycle, then I'll be on my period on 27 May. I don't want this to be my period day because I want to  wub.gif with my hubby (our hnymoon)~~.  What do you all suggest? To delay the period by taking continuously the pills or any other way? I know how to delay with pills, but just want some insight.

Since I'm taking Yasmin, I got acne on my forehead and it does not help with the skin condition. Yesterday, I got terrible headache and today the period came. I guess that was the side effect because before this I never had any headache.
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if you started taking the pill when you were supposed to (on the first Sunday after or on your period), then just continue to take the pill normally, daily and at the same time. If you're really concerned that your period will arrive during your honeymoon, then just stack the pill (meaning, don't take the tablet-free week). Take the pill continuously.

I'm sorry you're having acne issues, every woman reacts differently to the pill. It may help you to do some facial cleansing and moisturizing smile.gif The headaches sound like a side effect, yes.
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QUOTE(Sizty @ Apr 1 2013, 10:47 AM)
Well thanks for the advice! smile.gif

Means that I just need to focus my cleansing regime more on my face now. Anyway i'll keep on posting here if I got more side effects.
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No prob.

QUOTE(erikaa @ Apr 2 2013, 12:08 AM)
I've been using Meliane (low dosage mini pills) on stacks (non-stop) for about 6 months now. It's just because I get terrible cramps during period and I'm sick of it. It's so much easier just taking pills everyday. But recently I start to spot, which didn't happen in the first five months... Could it be stress or what? Anyone has any experience with stacking pills for a longer period but also spotting?
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I don't know what to tell you about this one. I only spotted on a stacking regime during my second month, after which I switched pills and I no longer spot. Have you been taking the pill at the same time every day? taking your pill whenever you feel like it can affect your hormone dosage and could cause spotting.

QUOTE(erikaa @ Apr 2 2013, 12:14 AM)
You can get BCP over the counter in any pharmacy actually. My first one was prescribed, then I just buy over the counter after that. It's better to get a gyne to check if your gf is suitable for what pill before getting them yourself.

I use Meliane and its a low dose mini pill. I get mine from Watson/guardian. About rm22 per pack for 21 days.
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you may need to clarify what you mean by over-the-counter. You only need a one-year prescription from your gyne, and you fill that prescription at a pharmacy. you don't go to your gyne every month to get a new pack, you go to the pharmacy. Over-the-counter medication is medication that can be purchased at the pharmacy, no prescription required.

that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if you can buy the BCP over-the-counter in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(Katusha @ Apr 7 2013, 02:18 PM)
Hi there..
Actually I'm still new to this forum and found this thread today  smile.gif

I'm quite concern for those who are constantly taking hormonal contraceptive medications.

I will not tell or share anything beyond my knowledge and experience.
I'm 27 now. two years ago I got married and of coz became sexually active  tongue.gif
That was my first time taking contraceptive pills. I think for about 2 months.

Then I started to gain weight and having skin problems (like tinea/ringworms/panau) around my arms and back. I thought I got it because I ride motorbike a lot and sweat under my riding jacket. I used cream, special soap and did many things to cure them. even I was prescribed with a strongest antibiotics for ringworm. but nothing seemed to clear them from my skin.

I never thought the pill was the culprit. Until I day, I have decided to have an IUD because I don't want to rely on pills anymore.
During the consultation with my doctor, I revealed that my mom had cancer (she passed away on 2010).
Then the doctor advised me to STOP taking any hormonal pill or medication.
I have a family history of cancer and I have the genetic so I must avoid anything that could do something to my hormone.
and it was revealed too that what I had with my skin was because the contraceptive pills had altered my hormone and antibody.

Then after that, due to doctor's concern, I was advised to undergo ultrasound and some tests. Thank God, other than the skin problem, I was fine.

Before I meet my doctor, I read a lot about IUD. (u can search in internet) and surprisingly they are so cheap in malaysia. about 300 including consultation and insertion and everything. while it can cost thousands in overseas.
Then doc suggested me Multi load IUD.
It took less than 5 minute to insert and I can remove it anytime I want.
So far I'm fine with it and I always wanted to encourage ladies out there to go for better contraceptive methods.

Hurm...my point is actually..girls, it is always, always better to avoid stuff than can alter or affect your hormone. Especially if you have family history of cancer. Yes, pills are easier but think in the long run.

Just my 2 cents
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Please don't assume that what happens to you, will happen to everyone else. It is not one size fits all. What works for you, does not necessarily work for someone else. I know women whose bodies rejected the IUD, with excruciating pain and a lot of bleeding. Others are happier taking the pill daily. The IUD is a more EFFECTIVE birth control method, but you cannot say that it is BETTER just because it worked better for you, especially if it is only in terms of peace of mind since you appear to be afraid of hormones. Your fear is warranted though, based on your personal experience.

Cancer's cause is unknown. Your doctor was giving you his diagnosis based on what he knows with your medical history. He can only say you are of "higher risk", based on family history. I was prescribed pills by US doctors (because I asked for the pill method, though I am considering other methods) even with a history of ovarian cancer in my family. There are people who smoke cigarettes all their lives and never get lung cancer, yet there are others who do recreational smoking and contract lung cancer.

Your advice seems to be quite common of Malaysian women, most of whom fear anything hormonal, and also seem to think that "if it happened to me, it must happen to everyone else". I've been on the pill for 2 years now, stacking (I don't take the break in between packs), and I've never had the skin problems you document having within 2 months of the pill. I also have not gained weight. However, I'm aware that my case is unique from others, and while I tell others what pill I'm on when they ask, I generally don't recommend it just because I don't know what their reactions to it will be. I usually offer it as an option, based on my favorable experience of it.

By all means, do your research and figure out which method is best for you, but always remember that what may be best for you, may not be best for another.

P.S. I just looked this up on womenshealth.gov. One of the side effects/risks of the IUD is infertility. Interestingly enough, it is not a side effect of the pill.
Please be careful, especially if you're inserting and removing it as and when you please.

QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Apr 7 2013, 03:12 PM)
Try to avoid it if possible. Weight gain is my main issue, 5-8 kg after I took it. My family doctor recommend me to stop.
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You could have tried another pill brand, or even another method.

I am PMed occasionally by people, men and women, asking me for pill brand recommendations. I cannot recommend a brand, because every woman reacts differently to different pills. You have to find what works best for you.

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QUOTE(niabellagamba @ May 30 2013, 03:18 AM)
What happens if you're a person who drinks alcohol? Does it interfere with the effectiveness?
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QUOTE(YuenZhao @ Jul 18 2013, 08:43 PM)
http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/can-alcohol...s-effectiveness

Depends on which type of pills you're on. I'm on Marvelon pills for almost a year now. Having it because of my period problems. So far, not much problem to me except sometimes, you'll get nausea in the mornings. Anyway, it depends on your body as well. Marvelon's the safest pill you can find in Malaysia. Have regular body check if you're that worried.
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there are only three types of pills. alcohol does not affect effectiveness. Only human error does.
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QUOTE(Ryuujin @ Jul 26 2013, 10:33 PM)
When I first started I was on Cerazette. GP didn't want to prescribe me with the combination pills because I have frequent migranes. Cerazette was horrible - I had terrible mood swings (my poor boyfriend got the brunt of it tongue.gif) and I was spotting everyday for more than a month. Then I changed to Noriday. So far no adverse side effects although I still bleed every month on it... Although I'm not sure if my weight gain is due to Noriday so I'm thinking of stopping it for a month (it's summer holidays now so I won't see my boy until September) and starting it again a few weeks before I'm due to fly back to the UK. My question is: If I start my pills again not on the first or fifth day of my cycle, how long do I have to use condoms for? Here you said 7 days but my instruction leaflet said two days is sufficient. I just want to make sure so I can time my pill taking right.

Also, how did anyone parents react when they found out that you became active? My mum blew up like a volcano after she found out that I was active with my LONG TERM boyfriend.. When I tried to reassure her that no, I won't get pregnant because I was using condoms and the pills as well it was as if WWIII broke out... She kept saying how I have disappointed her and where did she go wrong with raising me etc. by taking those vile medication because I will be rendered infertile and it will mess up my body and told me to stop taking it and stop having sex immediately sweat.gif I swear she wants me to end up preggers because relying on condoms is far far more unreliable than the pills and I don't even pay a single cent for contraceptives because it's free in the UK! Gosh! Any ideas on how to deal with her?

And yes, I do agree that Malaysians should be educated on BC matters. If society was different my mum wouldn't react like what she did. Before I went to the UK, I did not even know that BC could control acne breakouts or regulate PMT. Of all BC, I think condoms are the most inefficient method and yet it's more accepted than pills. Don't even get me started trying to explain the patch/injection to my mum because I think I'll get disowned lol..
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Condoms have a 97% rate, compared to the pill's 99%. These numbers do not take into account human error. So no, condoms are not far less reliable. You just have to be proactive in checking for leakages so you are able to get the Plan B pill in case there are problems. The pill is the same - if you don't take it at exactly the same time every day, you are also at risk. Condoms don't affect your hormones, that's why people prefer it. Penakut, that's all.

My parents never found out. I don't even know why you told her or how she was even able to find out if you didn't say anything. Your sex life is none of anybody else's business.
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QUOTE(Ryuujin @ Aug 1 2013, 11:13 PM)
Ah okay. Well it was partly my fault as my mum kept bugging me if I had done it with my boyfriend. One day I got so frustrated and I just said yes. It seems to my mum that my sex life is her business :/
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don't worry about it. most parents think it's their business lol
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 22 2014, 06:52 PM)
Why would you need birth control pills (or emergency contraceptive pills, I think you got them mixed up) to go on a vacation with your bf? Use condom.

Emergency contraceptive pills (ECP) - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/176435
It's not the same as birth control pills.

Use condoms.
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QUOTE(jacqueline_c88 @ Jun 22 2014, 06:29 PM)
Im going to vacation with my bf. So i plan to get some birth control pills and i never bought it before. Which bcp is better? Emergency pills or 21 days pills? Can i get it in guardian or watson pharmacy? And which brand won't makes you gain weight? Im newbie in this field, please help....
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I do not recommend the morning after pill as constant birth control. If you really are wanting to go on birth control because you want to have sex with your boyfriend while on vacation, you need to have started taking the birth control pills at least 2 months prior and take them consistently. As munkeyflo has said, just use condoms at this point.

Please read up on the first page of this thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1830575

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QUOTE(jacqueline_c88 @ Jun 27 2014, 06:24 PM)
We used condoms but i felt very unsafe.so im thinking for safer side im going to take birth control pills as well.can i get birth control pills from guardian or watson without prescription?i felt so embarassed to ask the pharmacist for it:P
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The birth control pill is by prescription only. It's not something you can just take as and when you please. You are consuming hormones to regulate your body. The emergency pill is over the counter, but I don't recommend you use that.

Do not take the pill just because you're going on vacation. The pill is supposed to be taken every day at the same time for a long time, otherwise you will do funky things to your body with the hormone fluctuations.

You are supposed to check the condom for breakage after you've used it.

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QUOTE(leeyenshan @ Jul 15 2014, 10:55 PM)
Hey. I'm from Klang. I'm visiting my boyfriend in Australia this coming October. I was wondering where I could get a depo-shot. Does every clinic have them? Also, do I just rock up to the clinic and say I'm here for consultation and ask for the shot? I heard it will take about 2 to 3 weeks for it to start working. I have 3 months so that's not an issue. Problem is, will it mess up my menstrual cycle during that month?
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Any sort of birth control involves hormones that affect your menstrual cycle, so yes.

All you really need to do is schedule a consult with your gyno. They usually advise you on the different forms of BC and you decide on what you want. Then they'll write you a prescription or give you the shot etc.

As far as I know, the shot is relatively expensive, but don't take my word for it.
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QUOTE(leeyenshan @ Jul 15 2014, 11:45 PM)
Lol. Problem is, I dont have a gyno. Any recommendations around Klang or Subang area?
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You don't? You're supposed to have annual visits either when you turn 18 or when you're sexually active, whichever comes first smile.gif

I am not in a position to recommend one. Perhaps munkeyflo would know.

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