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post Apr 11 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(giotto @ Apr 11 2011, 10:53 AM)
Great win for Arsenal.  For a moment i thought we were gonna bottle it up somewhere the middle of 2nd half.

Anyways, if the news that Almunia is injured during warm up is true, it makes us the only team in the premiership to have the first 3 GK injured.  Great to see mad Jens back in action, minus the madness.  It's just so not Jens. Nevertheless, he looks abit nervous and gingerly prepared for the game but he's slowly getting back in the groove.

As for the team, AW made quite a fair bit of changes.  RAther surprised Eboue played over Sagna and i must say Eboue looked far more lively than Sagna altho Sagna has far better defending abilities.  Diaby was alright but i think fatigue kinda got into him towards the end of the game.

Having said that, the win over Blackpool was alright but we need to kick up a few more gears if we were to win the EPL.  We must defend better and take the chances.
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Sagna was injured.

So seems Kroenke is on the verge of securing Fiszman's and Nina's combine total of 16% which would mean that he has to bid for a takeover and The Arsenal Supporters' Trust have been surprisingly pretty receptive albeit cautious over the news. Would be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:41 PM

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The home jersey looks awesome IMO. The away one looks ok to me. Not everyones cup of tea but oh well. Would probably get the Home jersey this year with either Van P 11 or Walcott 14 on the back.
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post Apr 18 2011, 01:17 AM

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The title was gone when we drew 0-0 with Sunderland. I've mentioned it time and time again. Before this Arsene was blaming on fatigue. Now we have full 7 days to prepare for matches and this is all the team could muster.
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post Apr 18 2011, 01:59 AM

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I've really lost count of the number of F*ck ups we've done this season.

Spurs, West Brom, Newcastle now this. 8 Freaking points. Blackburn and Sunderland 0-0 were perfectly winnable as well.

And to think some muppets actually wanted Eboue in as first choice RB compared to Sagna. Couldn't recall who already. Today was the perfect example of why Sagna is first choice RB.

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post Apr 18 2011, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(BaboonZ @ Apr 18 2011, 02:51 AM)
Don't put all the blame on him. Yes I admit he is a hot and cold type of player, similar to Diaby and Arshavin, but it is worth the risk and there's no better option. Don't forget the league cup final against Birmingham. By far the best chance to win a trophy in years but not even Sagna can do anything about it.
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Did any of my post say "I blame Eboue"? Come on dude, read properly again. I was just merely highlighting the reason why Sagna is first choice RB and not Eboue.
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post Apr 19 2011, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Apr 19 2011, 10:27 AM)
Does anybody from this thread, Arsenal fans I mean, go & post comments in other team's thread ? I mean, even if we're football fans or whatever, I dun really understand how we can go to other team's thread & post, even after we've beaten them or lost to them... just stay in our thread la.. & other ppl from other teams, U're not welcomed here & Gooners pls dun reply to any of their comments. Thanks.
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What is even more funny is that "other clubs" posters come in here spout their crap about Arsenal and then feel surprised and offended after being flamed even though their opinions were "sensible" and "constructive" opinions. This is an "Arsenal" thread FFS. Its the same as being a say Man Utd/Chelsea/Spuds supporter and you walk in and Arsenal bar and talk crap about Arsenal. Whether what you say is true or not or makes sense or not is irrelevant and you are always gonna get a fist to the face. I've seen so many pointless arguments caused by the "thickness" of some "other clubs" supporters and it really degrades the thread. Imagine coming into the thread for probably some of the latest news and stuff and all you see are posts of utter rubbish. I don't know about other threads as I don't bother with them. I am with tenno on this one. I hope each and everyone can just stick to their own threads.


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post Apr 20 2011, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Apr 19 2011, 11:47 PM)
2 corners 2 assist, i like both his goals, very compose and steady
his 2nd goal, almost kena his teammate  sweat.gif
if this goes on, definitely no surprise that feyenoord would want to sign him on a permanent deal

lets see what happens after this season end, i am still thinking a couple of our players will go..that-that feeling hmm.gif
maybe it would then make space for people like vela and ryo miyaichi to come back and warm the bench  laugh.gif
who knows right,
but as it stays, hopefully he can get the most out from his loan
leveling his crossing, dribbling, finishing, shooting, confidence!

i don't know what source is this, but for the read
udinese ada minat, i read another source napoli also got interest

http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-leag...e-arsenal-retur

should see this below
i loled  laugh.gif
smile smile,,then yayayayaya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWu5pDyH99k&feature=related
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I'm confused by that givemefootball Ryo article. Japan taking part in the Copa America? You've gotta be kidding me.

Edit: Ooh just saw that Japan are one of the invited nations to take part. Had me confused for a moment there as to how did Japan suddenly become a South American country rclxub.gif

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post Apr 20 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(kazek @ Apr 20 2011, 11:32 AM)
You know if Barcelona need to replace players they will just go shopping for the best players. They don't have to rely on Team B for talent.

Arsenal on the other hand will replace quality with average players. i.e. Eduardo for Henry, Denilson for Flamini, Squillacci for Gallas e.t.c
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I disagree with Eduardo and Squillaci as replacements for Henry and Gallas respectively. Just because Eduardo was bought right after Henry left doesn't mean he was bought as a replacement. Adebayor was more of a replacement for Henry and was our number 1 striker at that time. Had Van P been fit at the same time, Eduardo would have struggled to get a game IMO.

Squilacci on the other hand was more of a Silvestre replacement. More of a stop-gap solution due to our defensive injury problems with Djourou and Vermaelen. Koscielny was always ahead of Squillaci in the pecking order and could be considered more of a Gallas replacement. I'm not complaining though, I thought Koscielny has done very very well in his first season. Unlucky that some of his errors has proven pretty costly but then again so did Gallas during his tenure with us. Just needs to work on his consistency a little and I'm convinced we will have a real gem of a defender.

Agree that Denilson has been disappointing. He looked pretty good in those Carling Cup games and when Flamini left it was the perfect opportunity for him but in the end just simply not good enough. But that spot in the team now belongs to Song.
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post Apr 21 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Azurues @ Apr 21 2011, 05:11 PM)
That rvp offside thing is really close call. No camera angle was suitable to see if he was really offside or not. But still i have no idea how did he shoot the ball

Anyway regarding the penalty stuff cause by Sczesny, Sagna pushes up really high which cause him to be caught but what happen to the offside trap? The player is like 5-10 yards away from Sagna. Even if Sagna get caught, the CB wasn't even close when Sczseny drop Lennon hmm.gif
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It was really an unlucky call. Big Big decision there and had we gone 4-2 up then Spurs would have been beaten. My initial reaction it was onside but even with replays it was inconclusive. What a strike that was. It swerved in the final moment which is why Gomes appeared to have dived the other way. Something ala Henry's rocket which beat Roy Caroll when we played Man Utd last time. To win Cups sometimes you need the rub of the green, decisions to go your way, sadly that wasn't the case during our most crucial games this year. In fact I can't even recall a single "big" call which went our way at all in all our "big" and "important" games this year.

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post Apr 22 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Apr 22 2011, 08:06 AM)
watch it again last final Carling Cup. in early 15 min++, Brum got wrong offside call, their striker brought down by Arsenal GK. thats possible red card and penalty..

people used to forget wrong decision when the decision not effect much the outcome (on that case, Brum won the game. nobody will mention that wrong decision)
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Excuse me then how is it even a "big" call when it influences nothing in term of results? Why even bother mentioning if it does nothing to the outcome of the game? If you wanna talk about wrong decisions why not list down every single match in the BPL? Almost every match has bad calls.

I'm referring to "big" calls which more or less determines the outcome of games (ex: the penalty awarded to Liverpool after 90348209482 mins of stoppage time).

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QUOTE(Quick` @ Apr 22 2011, 04:12 PM)
bro, no point le, first of all its impossible or rather difficult to list down all the big decision bad calls
secondly, not sure if its true that we had a lot of bad calls, let say if its true that we are on the receiving end most of the time
it still wouldnt change a thing, we are where we are now 3rd at the table,
other people might just think we are sore losers with excuses even if we have valid points, then they will then explain their share of deals
no point going there
if ever its true that we often are @ the receiving end, in away its related to karma
we will get back whats stolen from us next time around

in the mean time lets just swallow it down and move on
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To win Cups you need a little luck. Players are not robots, there is no way they can keep up such a high level game in game out. This is where luck comes into play, sometimes decisions like these help you win games when you are not at your best and we know which team has grinded out a hat load of 3 points because of this which is partly one of the reasons they are where they are right now. By no means I'm suggesting that they are up there because of pure luck but sometimes you do need a little to go your way.


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post Apr 25 2011, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Apr 25 2011, 10:44 AM)
Perbezaannya..

Other's team never talk big about can win things.. Arsene talk about can win Quadrable lol
Arsenal b4 wenger does win things every 2-3 years and 6 years is really show how small you became.

Get the difference now why they call for pecat?! laugh.gif
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I remember Harry Redknapp saying anything could happen and Spurs could win both the BPL and Champions League a few months back. What happened I wonder? hmm.gif

Tottenham can win the Premier League says Redknapp DOH
Spuds can win the Champions League sez Ol Arry

Don't be a muppet. As much of a joke these declarations are from Redknapp earlier on I don't hold it against him. You don't see managers coming out saying that they've no hope for the season and are going down do they?



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post Apr 27 2011, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(ryoji_nagai @ Apr 27 2011, 04:23 AM)
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Sorry I disagree.

So how exactly should football be played? Tippy tappy footie with loads of possession but no goals and then concede a comedy of a goal to lose the game or a professional, no nonsense approach with great teamwork and team organization that wins you games?

Apart from perhaps Nani and a few others, you may be right that individually as footballers we have the better players but United are way and miles ahead when they play as a team. Our team organization especially during set pieces has been a freaking joke at times and has been for the past 5 years yet we never seem to improve. Unless we start playing like a real team we will always flatter to deceive.

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post Apr 27 2011, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(vendetta87 @ Apr 27 2011, 08:48 AM)
very well said ~!! dropping manly tears ~!!!


Added on April 27, 2011, 8:49 am

bro....perhaps u can support man-u next season....
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I have been a die hard Gunner since 1997 and have been buying an Arsenal jersey for the past 12 years without fail and you call me to support Man Utd next season? That is perhaps one of the biggest insults I can ever get throughout my time as a Gunner.

You can choose to remove your rose tinted Arsenal glasses for awhile or choose to wallow in your self disillusionment. As much of a die hard supporter and hate to admit it, they are a better team than us at the moment and that is why they are where they are and we are where we are. Simple as that.
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Apr 27 2011, 09:29 AM)
i think so too. arsenal takes pride in the possessionm tippy tappy football that they play, and when it comes off, it's reallly exquisite. but somewhere along the way, the possession and to score any other way seems to have become more important than anything else. while i totallly support the beautiful football that arsenal plays, the fact that we have not addressed our horrible defensive frailties from set pieces and also making sure that our defense makes minimal mistakes for so many seasons is something that baffling and worrying at the same time.

arsenal have the potential to truly be giants of the EPL and also conquer europe, but that is only if we learn to complement defensive steel with our beautiful play (and make sure we win).
why is it that everytime someone voices frustration or dissatisfaction with the arsenal team that they're told to go support another team? perhaps some of the comments are really out of line, but what sigheart has a lot of truth to it.

if supporters aren't allowed to discuss their views (regardless of whether it's positive or negative) in a forum, then what is the forum for? if someone disagrees with another view, then let's discuss it and back it up with facts, quotes, reason, etc. i've had online discussions with starghazzer, toshio14 and even sigheart, but never have i been told to go support another team and vice versa. and i still think of them as passionate arsenal supporters.

we're the arsenal family folks. let's not forget that =)
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I don't normally watch United games but I don't know why I stayed up to watch Schalke vs United this morning. I notice that United are very tight when it comes to formation and position wise. Their players don't ever stray far from their designated positions and the shape of the team is always there. In terms of team organization we could certainly take a leaf out from their book.

Perhaps one of the reasons IMO for our defensive frailties is the license Arsene gives players to roam freely, a bit too freely. When players don't stick to their positions it creates gaps on the field and our positional play becomes messy, which is probably one of the reasons why our defensive line appears exposed all the time especially when our midfielders push forward and we are hit on the counter attack, players are out of position and just can't get back in time.
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Vermaelen Set to Face Man Utd

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post Apr 28 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(leymar7 @ Apr 28 2011, 12:20 AM)
hope for the best for him..win for the reserve

for diaby haters..he has completed 90% passes in oppositions half..the best ratio in the premier league this season shocking.gif
unfortunately..injury prone  sweat.gif

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That is pretty subjective IMO. He completed 90% of his passes but I guess he is probably one who makes the least number of passes as well given the small amount of games he has played.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Apr 28 2011, 12:26 AM)
WHY U TROLL ME

i thought the news say end of this week but when i read further  doh.gif
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lol I got bloody trolled as well when I first read those headlines biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2011, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(minority @ Apr 28 2011, 04:50 PM)
You could say the same thing about the Dutch league, unfortunately. Even Ajax is not the feared force it once was and their champions last year, Twente, is not much better than the Scottish champions in Europe. None of them can retain the great players that the generate on a regular basis (especially Ajax's legendary academy).

Anyway, Ryo's definitely not ready for first team action yet. Quite predictable (will try to outrun and cross almost all the time) and is not as good a passer as he needs to be for the team. But the potential's there. Need to get him in England ASAP.


Added on April 28, 2011, 5:09 pm

I have to disagree of course, because of the consistency of his pass completion ratio. I've always been an advocate of his in that he does his job. He retains control of the ball quite frequently, contrary to popular belief, he makes good simple passes and he provides strength in the middle (not quite Alex Song, but helpful, notably against Everton when he negated the rough and tumble Felaini and Rodwell who kicking us around the park in the first half without Diaby). His tackling stats are generally quite good.

As for his pass completion, we can negate the influence of his lack of games by comparing him to someone else in the same game. In the Everton game, he passed nearly as much as Fabregas after he came in (32 v. 33) with a 100% completion rate. Before he was sent off against Newcastle, it was 33 v. 42 against Fabregas, with only a single unsuccesful pass. Against Sunderland, 39 passes when he was in (only the first half, so it's a comparable number to our usual central midfielders), 33 completed.

So he does the job. Simple passes where needed. His pass completion ratio is not down to the lack of passes (he plays in the middle after all and all Arsenal central midfielders will pass A LOT) nor necessarily his lack of games (he has been consistent in the games  he does play).

I would rather bring into question the fact that if we play Diaby and Denilson at the same time, we have two safe passers who don't take too many risks probing the defence.
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Again he is consistently inconsistent. The jury will always be out unless he can string 3, 4 maybe 5 of those performances in a row. Or probably start by getting at least 3 starts in a row first. Has there been any point in time where he plays at least 3 in a row before getting injured again? I do agree Diaby has improved but before he can actually string at least 3 or 4 appearances in a row for once let alone put in consistently good performances for an extended run of games, I'd reserve my comments on him.

As for pass completion, nothing to shout about. True that high completion percentage of passes keep things going, keeps the play moving, not wasteful in possession etc etc, but really, to just compare the amount of passes completed say with Fabregas is a shallow comparison at best. Any tom, d*** and harry can complete a square pass, but not everyone can split a defence like Fabregas does. You can make 100 out of 100 completed square passes for a 100% completion rate but I'll take the player who could produce just 1 successful defence splitting pass out of 10 passes with just a 10% pass completion rate any day thank you very much.

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post May 2 2011, 02:29 AM

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This is what a Decent goalie does. Win you games. Great performance from chesney. Gah need to get some shuteye. Thoughts on the game tomorrow.

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