How are your gym mates and assistant? Do they look like Jay Cutler?

Why don't u tell us since u already tried NT and bought ON whey

Better results? Whey is only one part of the equation. You need to make sure your training and diet are up to the mark and that you're getting sufficient rest. It doesn't work to only have one piece of the puzzle.

Good on you, my friend. We're on the same boat so keep up the effort.

like i said, NT is neither blend nor whey only. Not sure what it is. Looking at the ingredients, it mainly says only whey (wide variety of them). Maybe it is blend, but with limited sources of protein. If you refer to other blends, they have casein, egg albumin, milk, whey and other sources which i think is much better.
i don't think there is, as long as it doesn't start to smell maybe? 
because blend contains both fast and slow digesting protein.

Look man, you seemed like an honest guy really doing what you can to get proper information to invest your cash in. The majority of us use optimum nutrition and gaspari nutrition. Bsn is good too. Stick to a blend like myofusion and syntha 6. You can't go wrong with them.

And good on ya going around reading as much as you can.

If I were you, I'd stick to ON/myofusion with a 1kg supply of creatine monohydrate (creapure preferred). Ditch NT - you'll know why sooner or later. Since you have read the reviews in bb.com, I'm very sure you'll find your answer. 

My sentiments exactly. If I want whey and creatine, I'll go out and buy whey and creatine, not a 'specially formulated by our scientists in our top secret state of the art lab' blend of whey and creatine. 

yeah on was really watery, maybe because its just whey??

couldnt agree more that myofusion still taste the best 10/10
when i was taking NT, i literally had to pinch my nose to down that sh!t !!! and getting those oreo bits stuck in your teeth ugghhh

Thats definitely NT lol and maybe u r slightly lactose intolerant, try taking with water instead?

i've been on jack3d for almost a month now. no doubt that it works, really gives you a huge pump during your weights session! but just so you know, never had crashes like the others but i've had days where i couldn't fall asleep eventhough i take only 1.5 scoops+- (max recommended serving size = 3 scoops). maybe like thrice throughout the whole month? if i'm not wrong, i worked on my back or legs on those days, body was sore as shit but i was widely awake probably cause of the caffeine in it, was really frustrated since i was still awake at like 4 in the morning (i workout at night around 9). My advice would be to go for it but try to avoid taking it at night! Also, jack3d has a little creatine in it and some beta-alanine which may cause itching.

If I take Jack3d any time after 6 or 7, I can be sure I won't be falling sleep any time before 2 in the morning. 

One of the reason I've been avoiding jack3d even though there are a lot of good reviews. I workout late in the day, so any benefits of a pre-WO supp is going to be destroyed by the fact I can't get enough sleep for work the next day.

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Added on October 31, 2011, 11:31 pm

Creatine is found in meat. By cycling creatine, do we need to stop eating meat too? Just wondering.

Are we getting the same nitrotech as him ? 

Tsk... you poor disillusioned fella. My gains have never been better since i stopped using whey protein. It's all in your mind. Muscletech is crap seriously bro. Blends and casein are way superior.

What's a muffin top??

I don't eat like that often.