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When is the next outing ?

Wondering if its possible for a foreigner to work in singapore for an extended amount of time without he/she applying a permit since i have an associate from denmark and he has to come to singapore for a project and the duration of his stay is around 4-5 months and his company does not have a regional branch in singapore.

Danny, Check ur Whatsapp, our outing are mainly discussed there, unless we are doing big group outing, else those small outing will usually be me, Mackiddo, Semper Fi, Washabushi, Agriope and the gang. btw, we are celebrating Washabushi's gf birthday in Holiday Inn next friday, feel free to join. its around $35 per person (normal price is $70, they got promotion buy 1 free 1).

I feel sorry for kiasu people. I work for money and life not for work pass.

Should be possible to apply for Employment pass with proper documents and stuffs..
I've seen many cases of those ship crews or ship support crews holding employment pass when they are here in singapore for jobs ranging from months to years in duration..

Congrats! At least you don't need to leave sg after all. I hope you can get back to EP in the future.

Difference wise....not so much aside from credit card applications and phone line subscriptions


This post has been edited by Nokia convert: Jun 30 2011, 06:55 PM

Hi All, I filling the employment pass form.

1) All letter written in BLOCK letter?

2) Should i attach my education cert? from SPM to degree?

3) Any additional attachment

I can ask my company hr but now is not the working hour. So anybody can help me?

why not ? I iz major in Mind Manipulation a.k.a Jedi Mind Trick

All formal applications are advisable to fill in capital letters. The form already requires you to provide copies of certificates of your education details.. What's your question again?

After much determination and effort, I have been left doubting my fighting chance again.

Been surfing sites recommended for Sg Jobs. I am into IT line for 2 years+.

Maybe it is just me, but securing jobs in Msia for me seems much easier compared to Sg.

I was aware of the massive competition (foreign & local), but to the extent of not getting an interview chance just puts me off sometime.

Was trying to be positive and put in a lot of time into my CV and applications. Having the idea that somehow out of the many i sent out, even a few face to face interview chance would've given me a shot to prove myself.

But heck, not even one turn out....yet.

Just ranting here, pardon me. Was thinking whether applying via this way is really a wise choice in the first place.

Gonna put up more effort next, by calling in those that provide numbers.
Appreciate it if experienced ones have heads-up or advice to give me.

sometimes i'm thinking, is it because they dont value your experience much in Malaysia or they prefer their local ones barring the hassle to get work permit for foreigners?

It is not about the time you put in, or the frustration that you face. In short, it's not about your feelings or emotional needs, and it's not about you.

It's about you compared to your competitors.

If you're not being shortlisted and called for interviews, obviously your CV and/or your profile (ie. education, experiences, skillsets) are not attracting the attention of employers compared to other CVs they are looking at.

To secure an interview as a non-resident of Singapore, you have to stand out from your competitors, and stand out far enough for the employer to feel he might still want to employ you despite the additional bureaucratic effort required to employ you compared to employing a resident.

Either you (1) improve your CV, (2) improve your profile or (3) apply to employers which attract fewer and/or lower quality competitors.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jun 30 2011, 11:30 PM

i certainly understand this sean. Which is why i needed to put extra effort into seeking employment in that foreign land, knowing my fight ain't gonna be easy since i am AWAY instead of HOME

1) Same sentiments i had as well, which is why i mentioned i put a lot of effort in the CV as well. (I'm serious, already had a few employers opting to view my resume via Jobstreet alert the following day, SG +Msia)

2) Have been doing that ever since i graduated. Learned everything i know today mostly self effort. Even my current employment i am the youngest in the team, with one of the most experience in skills compared to others. But i certainly know this is hardly the case in Sg due to the competition. All in all my feelings are just..., i put up a good fight all these years, and im yearning to prove myself at the other side of the land.

3) Been having second thoughts on this as well, if its local territory I wouldn't go for it since i can secure a better one for my profile. But in this case, I am still having second thoughts. Clicked a few to try it out though, will see how it goes.

Anyway, all I want is just to get into a better working environment, where competition is there, challenges and reward awaits those who are worthy.
But ain't all the competition there is feeling the same thing...

Thanks for opinions input.

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Added on June 30, 2011, 11:52 pmexactly what I had in mind.


This post has been edited by dtna7: Jun 30 2011, 11:52 PM

Get on Linkedin, and get chummy with some SG recruiters. Talk to them and they might tell you what your typical competitor profiles are and which part of your profile is weak. You will be surprised how competitive some environments/industries/roles can be. Singapore attracts very qualified Indians, Chinese, other Asians and also Westerners besides Malaysians. You could be competitive back in MY, but it's a different ball game in SG, especially if you're in one of the hotter fields.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jul 1 2011, 12:06 AM

去新加坡打工真的好吗? (Working in S'pore?)

Well, seeing that the author is from Penang, just like me.
I understand the food part completely.
Though, adaptability is a problem for the author.
Too lazy to "LIKE" and read the remaining.

Posting this from Bic Camera in Kyoto using a Galaxy S II. It is very, very good. Damn fast (browser as well), killer screen and feels surprisingly good in the hand. Feels very light. Gingerbread feels quite responsive, better than it does on my Galaxy Tab. I'm guessing it's the faster processer and 1GB RAM. Musicplayer now has an added 'play by folder' mode on top of the usual album/artist/genre/etc playlist system which is useless for people who don't like to pay money for mp3s or waste time editing ID3 details.

Price in Japan from NTT Docomo (the Japs will simply not put 'Samsung' as the 'producer') is JPY54800. That's about S$850. Therefore, SG's S$998 launch price is ~S$150 more than MY, HK or JP. Ridiculous.

This post has been edited by seantang: Jul 1 2011, 02:09 PM

which area in IT? if you are an network engineer, then i can help u..

btw, any network engineer interest to work in Singapore, feel free to contact me.

This is so true.
My best friend is a recruiter for one of the most recognised recruitment firm in Sg and the world and we regularly talk about the candidates in the market.

And I can tell you all for a fact that the competition is VERY, VERY stiff in SG, especially for good jobs in MNC. A lot of the times, ones qualification and skills in M'sia might make you a well sought/above average person in yr field in M'sia, but if you come here, you are merely one of the average ones.

Point in case is the ACCA qualification. A lot of people in M'sia think by getting an ACCA is a definate advantage over the rest, i can assure you its not the case here. In fact getting a degree (preferably from those NUS, NTU or 1st tier Overseas degree) is more highly valued that ACCA. The perception here is that one only takes prof qualification if one cannot obtain places in a university. Here even auntie and uncle in their 40s have ACCA(nightcourse).

I was also told certain experience, especially those relating to sales and marketing (unless the exp gained in M'sia is regional - which is rare) gained in M'sia is completely useless and not even considered coz employers till think the market here and the market in M'sia is different.

And finally, those on WP are strongly urged to upgrade yr skills and certs(and as a result upgrade yr passes to S-pass or EP along with salary) to ensure 1) you don't get made redundant when the SG gov comes out with another levy or further restriction on foreign manpower (i was told it is currently being drafted) 2) To show Singaporeans that we are NOT rubbish, which clearly, most singaporean tend to view us as.(Maybe they don't say it straight in yr face or show it out through their actions, but believe me, alot (especially those true blue Singaporeans) still do!)

already did. Thanks for the advice thus far. I totally understand the circumstances and competition when i decided to click that apply button.

Thanks but i don't read chinese, I'm what most of my counterparts labelled as "banana"~

I'm not a network guy, but thanks for asking anyway.
I'm doing software, and .Net server side, Js client.

This post has been edited by dtna7: Jul 1 2011, 03:48 PM