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 Working in Singapore v6, Where maids carry bags for boys

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yinyum
post Apr 15 2011, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(washabushi @ Apr 14 2011, 11:48 PM)
lets go seafood...shall we???
and durian too!!!
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 15 2011, 12:35 AM)
Your "we" meant you and her?
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We all go together la! rclxms.gif But Lester stay in JB leh... Or might as well ask him bring us around in JB! Muahahhaha! tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(yinyum @ Apr 15 2011, 09:50 AM)
We all go together la!  rclxms.gif  But Lester stay in JB leh... Or might as well ask him bring us around in JB! Muahahhaha! tongue.gif
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the week after this week la...
since next week lester not free...
durian season last for how long???


Added on April 15, 2011, 10:01 am
QUOTE(yinyum @ Apr 15 2011, 09:50 AM)
We all go together la!  rclxms.gif  But Lester stay in JB leh... Or might as well ask him bring us around in JB! Muahahhaha! tongue.gif
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u now in KL too?
I so bored coz all my fren working sad.gif

This post has been edited by washabushi: Apr 15 2011, 10:01 AM
yinyum
post Apr 15 2011, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(washabushi @ Apr 15 2011, 09:54 AM)
the week after this week la...
since next week lester not free...
durian season last for how long???
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I don't know how long for durian season tongue.gif

This weekend I going back KL, next weekend Lester going back KL. doh.gif The last weekend of this month I going HK tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 10:08 AM

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anyone by any chance know anyone that can supply fuel and parts for ships?

sorry off topic a bit, reason i post here coz SG is 1 of the busiest port in da world

Please PM me. Thank you


Added on April 15, 2011, 10:10 am
QUOTE(yinyum @ Apr 15 2011, 10:02 AM)
I don't know how long for durian season tongue.gif

This weekend I going back KL, next weekend Lester going back KL.  doh.gif The last weekend of this month I going HK tongue.gif
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no luck then...have to wait till next month...

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All, I went to interview with a local sg engineering company, the position is to based in thailand, my working experience is almost 4 years (since july07), accommodation, transportation and lunch provided, 4 trips (return flight ticket) back to sg/my a year, what is the salary I should I ask for? In SGD
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post Apr 15 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 10:49 AM)
All, I went to interview with a local sg engineering company, the position is to based in thailand, my working experience is almost 4 years (since july07), accommodation, transportation and lunch provided, 4 trips (return flight ticket) back to sg/my a year, what is the salary I should I ask for? In SGD
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Ask for a premium as you will be outside...As for me when I was working for a SG company they were paying a premium over the regular salary.

Ask for at least $500 at least but you should have reasons why.

I say you put out the price of $800 but anything above 400 is acceptable.

But the truth is you will be spending more as you are not a local there.

Your package is the expat package aka living the life of a rockstar.

If I could get my expat package I would run back to China in no time!!!


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QUOTE(perkinsonline @ Apr 15 2011, 11:45 AM)
Ask for a premium as you will be outside...As for me when I was working for a SG company they were paying a premium over the regular salary.

Ask for at least $500 at least but you should have reasons why.

I say you put out the price of $800 but anything above 400 is acceptable.

But the truth is you will be spending more as you are not a local there.

Your package is the expat package aka living the life of a rockstar.

If I could get my expat package I would run back to China in no time!!!
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I have to see how much I can save per month, right? How many percent more than current monthly saving is worth going?
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 12:03 PM)
I have to see how much I can save per month, right? How many percent more than current monthly saving is worth going?
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What you say is true. As you are in a new environment you will be spending more. If it was me I would not relocate to Thailand I have been there for a month and I dont find it my cup of teh tarik. Living costs should be equivalent to Malaysia (correct me if I am wrong).

Compared to living in Singapore you dont have to pay rent, which is seriously high.

If possible ask them to pay you in SGD not THB.

Hope this helps!



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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 10:49 AM)
All, I went to interview with a local sg engineering company, the position is to based in thailand, my working experience is almost 4 years (since july07), accommodation, transportation and lunch provided, 4 trips (return flight ticket) back to sg/my a year, what is the salary I should I ask for? In SGD

Since Singapore pays the highest salaries these days except for Tokyo, Seoul and maybe, just maybe Taipei... basing your Thai package on the equivalent Sg salary of that position is a good start.

If an equivalent person in that capacity earn S$5000 a month, that's a reasonable starting point. The employer CPF contributions should continue too.

On top of that, I would ask for a foreign hardship allowance... say S$100 per diem each day (ie. S$3000 per month). The higher/lower your base salary, you need to adjust the amount to reflect the seniority of your position. I think 50-75% of your Singapore salary is quite reasonable.

Lastly, demand for 100% tax protection in Thailand ie. you should not pay any Thai taxation. If they negotiate, don't go below the equivalent Singapore tax, as if you had earned that salary in Singapore. The foreign allowance must be made tax free to you.

Also, negotiate for things like settling in allowances (ie. a cash allowance to help you settle down eg. to buy stuff like electrical goods, pay deposits for phone/broadband etc, open bank accounts, buy car etc.) and golden handshakes (ie. if you leave the company while you're in Thailand, the company will compensate you). At the very least, the company needs to pay for you and all your belongings etc to be moved back to Singapore.
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 12:03 PM)
I have to see how much I can save per month, right? How many percent more than current monthly saving is worth going?
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Right on.

Could you agree in Thailand in the long run you could save more as the living cost in Thailand is lower?


Added on April 15, 2011, 2:49 pm
QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 15 2011, 01:30 PM)
Since Singapore pays the highest salaries these days except for Tokyo, Seoul and maybe, just maybe Taipei... basing your Thai package on the equivalent Sg salary of that position is a good start.

If an equivalent person in that capacity earn S$5000 a month, that's a reasonable starting point. The employer CPF contributions should continue too.

On top of that, I would ask for a foreign hardship allowance... say S$100 per diem each day (ie. S$3000 per month). The higher/lower your base salary, you need to adjust the amount to reflect the seniority of your position. I think 50-75% of your Singapore salary is quite reasonable.

Lastly, demand for 100% tax protection in Thailand ie. you should not pay any Thai taxation. If they negotiate, don't go below the equivalent Singapore tax, as if you had earned that salary in Singapore. The foreign allowance must be made tax free to you.

Also, negotiate for things like settling in allowances (ie. a cash allowance to help you settle down eg. to buy stuff like electrical goods, pay deposits for phone/broadband etc, open bank accounts, buy car etc.) and golden handshakes (ie. if you leave the company while you're in Thailand, the company will compensate you). At the very least, the company needs to pay for you and all your belongings etc to be moved back to Singapore.
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As for Taipei, I dont think the salary is as high as in Singapore for engineers.

My friend told that the Taiwanese companies seriously work you dumb, meaning they really squeeze you dry off your energy. Well, thats what I heard.

My cousin with Motorola did a stint in Thailand.

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QUOTE(magiclover @ Apr 14 2011, 01:35 PM)
I can't speak Cantonese.. Mandarin is safer haha

This weekend nothing to do other than work.. -.-
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You can do volunteer work at a number of charities.

My personal favourite is SPCA, a bonus is there are alot of chicks which hang out as well.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Apr 15 2011, 02:50 PM)
You can do volunteer work at a number of charities.

My personal favourite is SPCA, a bonus is there are alot of chicks which hang out as well.
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Oh I love to do something like that ! I even had thought about doing it weekends when I start working in Singapore.
Contributing to the animal kingdom while having the company of chicks... its a win win situation!
Heck, I need some to keep myself alive in Singapore! Any hangout groups for Malaysian expat?

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My friend told that the Taiwanese companies seriously work you dumb, meaning they really squeeze you dry off your energy. Well, thats what I heard.

Never a good idea to generalise like that, especially if you need to make decisions on that info. Particularly if it's 2nd, 3rd, 4th hand based on 1 friend, 2 relatives, 3 friend's friend and the such.
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QUOTE(washabushi @ Apr 15 2011, 10:08 AM)
anyone by any chance know anyone that can supply fuel and parts for ships?

sorry off topic a bit, reason i post here coz SG is 1 of the busiest port in da world

Please PM me. Thank you


Added on April 15, 2011, 10:10 am

no luck then...have to wait till next month...
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What parts are you looking for and what bunkering standard? Since some ships have now moved to a more environmentally friendly fuel standard which alot of singapore bunkering services have yet to upgrade themselves to.
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 12:03 PM)
I have to see how much I can save per month, right? How many percent more than current monthly saving is worth going?
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They are providing you accomodation, food and transportation over there, if you ask more they might just give you the money but you have to settle your own housing, food etc.

Do you have family here? Yes then can ask for relocation fee or compensation etc. (it cost more than dollar and cent)
Can you rent out the place you stay? Yes then can rent out as extra income.
How many people in your company can easily replace you for the posting?

SG cost of living is higher than Thai, how can you say you need to spend more money there while most of the daily needs provided. Leaving SG will save you money more than what you are going to spend there. However, I am not surprise if a MNC will pay you more when you provide the same excuse.
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QUOTE(mea05key @ Apr 15 2011, 02:58 PM)
Oh I love to do something like that ! I even had thought about doing it weekends when I start working in Singapore.
Contributing to the animal kingdom while having the company of chicks... its a win win situation!
Heck, I need some to keep myself alive in Singapore! Any hangout groups for Malaysian expat?
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Boat quay or clarke quay to "chillax".

Butter factory or zouk if your into the clubbing scene.

I usually goto the reddot brewhouse for their green spirulina beer, very refreshing in hot and sweaty singapore.
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post Apr 15 2011, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Apr 15 2011, 01:30 PM)
Since Singapore pays the highest salaries these days except for Tokyo, Seoul and maybe, just maybe Taipei... basing your Thai package on the equivalent Sg salary of that position is a good start.

If an equivalent person in that capacity earn S$5000 a month, that's a reasonable starting point. The employer CPF contributions should continue too.

On top of that, I would ask for a foreign hardship allowance... say S$100 per diem each day (ie. S$3000 per month). The higher/lower your base salary, you need to adjust the amount to reflect the seniority of your position. I think 50-75% of your Singapore salary is quite reasonable.

Lastly, demand for 100% tax protection in Thailand ie. you should not pay any Thai taxation. If they negotiate, don't go below the equivalent Singapore tax, as if you had earned that salary in Singapore. The foreign allowance must be made tax free to you.

Also, negotiate for things like settling in allowances (ie. a cash allowance to help you settle down eg. to buy stuff like electrical goods, pay deposits for phone/broadband etc, open bank accounts, buy car etc.) and golden handshakes (ie. if you leave the company while you're in Thailand, the company will compensate you). At the very least, the company needs to pay for you and all your belongings etc to be moved back to Singapore.
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Tax will be covered by company, as I'm not pr, so company will not pay for the cpf. They will provide sgd 1 k allowance, and because of that they cannot offer me my last drawn basic salary.


Added on April 15, 2011, 3:26 pm
QUOTE(r1v3r @ Apr 15 2011, 03:14 PM)
They are providing you accomodation, food and transportation over there, if you ask more they might just give you the money but you have to settle your own housing, food etc.

Do you have family here? Yes then can ask for relocation fee or compensation etc. (it cost more than dollar and cent)
Can you rent out the place you stay? Yes then can rent out as extra income.
How many people in your company can easily replace you for the posting?

SG cost of living is higher than Thai, how can you say you need to spend more money there while most of the daily needs provided. Leaving SG will save you money more than what you are going to spend there. However, I am not surprise if a MNC will pay you more when you provide the same excuse.
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It's a studio apartment, don't think I can rent out? I know even though I'm getting the same pay I'll save more than what I'm saving now, but I need to figure out how many percent more I can save is worth going.
It's new company not my current company

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post Apr 15 2011, 06:08 PM

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there are those rental warehouse (different size of big locker) which you can store your stuff then sub-lease the studio out. Use the saving (or plus profit) from the rental and the free air ticket to go holidays.


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QUOTE(giorgene @ Apr 15 2011, 03:19 PM)
Tax will be covered by company, as I'm not pr, so company will not pay for the cpf. They will provide sgd 1 k allowance, and because of that they cannot offer me my last drawn basic salary.

Then what's the point? What's the endgame of moving? A few hundred bucks extra from not having to pay for rental and some meals? That's setting your sights pretty low, isn't it?

Dropping everything and moving to Thailand involves significant personal cost (not just financial, but also physical, inconvenience, emotional, relationships and security... not only yours but that of your family if they happen to need you and you're not available). One should be well compensated for that cost.

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post Apr 15 2011, 10:29 PM

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For those who wanna change SGD to RM. I just changed in JB, the rate is $1 = RM2.407. slightly lower than wawasan in Mid Valley but i think its better than those in SG

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