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post Apr 7 2011, 06:35 PM, updated 15y ago

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wow. which party is running penang again?
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QUOTE(Visionary @ Apr 7 2011, 06:40 PM)
wow. which party is running penang again?
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nice..eh, why u tok tok about penang?
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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Apr 7 2011, 06:42 PM)
nice..eh, why u tok tok about penang?
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no reason. just wanted to ask.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Visionary @ Apr 7 2011, 06:40 PM)
wow. which party is running penang again?
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I don't see how is your question relates to this thread at all.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM

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How are they planning to account for the all-day ticket? Or is that being scrapped so now you have to pay twice? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM)
I don't see how is your question relates to this thread at all.
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buses make me think of penang. drool.gif
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QUOTE(themarketrate @ Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM)
How are they planning to account for the all-day ticket? Or is that being scrapped so now you have to pay twice? brows.gif
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RM10 in card, hop on the bus then the counter starts, by kms or stations, then when you get off the bus, it deducts the fare... E.g. RM2, then your card will be left with RM8


just like SG's EzLink card or HK's Octopus
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:44 PM

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leceh la benda ni actually
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(themarketrate @ Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM)
How are they planning to account for the all-day ticket? Or is that being scrapped so now you have to pay twice? brows.gif
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All-day ticket has been scrapped in 2009.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM

ouh.. ok..
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QUOTE(themarketrate @ Apr 7 2011, 06:43 PM)
How are they planning to account for the all-day ticket? Or is that being scrapped so now you have to pay twice? brows.gif
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it's scraped now AFAIK
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:44 PM)
leceh la benda ni actually
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Just need to touch the card when board and alight the bus, just like in Singapore.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Visionary @ Apr 7 2011, 06:40 PM)
wow. which party is running penang again?
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ah boy, this depends on the company, not the ruling party of the state doh.gif Moreover Rapid is under Prasarana, mininstry of finance
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:46 PM

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oh wai-

does this also means that we can't use touch n go?
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ah boy, this depends on the company, not the ruling party of the state doh.gif  Moreover Rapid is under Prasarana, mininstry of finance
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i know. i just wanna know. im kind of confused over everything that's happening in msia. i dont read newspapers u see.
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QUOTE(khairolnizam @ Apr 7 2011, 06:46 PM)
oh wai-

does this also means that we can't use touch n go?
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Any Touch n Go card can be used.

This is because the system is based on Touch n Go card.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM)
All-day ticket has been scrapped in 2009.
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Oh, really? Shows how long it has been since I actually used the bus twice in a day.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(themarketrate @ Apr 7 2011, 06:47 PM)
Oh, really? Shows how long it has been since I actually used the bus twice in a day.
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Yes, in 2009, they moved to zone-based fare.

This year, Touch n Go + GPS technology.
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(khairolnizam @ Apr 7 2011, 06:46 PM)
oh wai-

does this also means that we can't use touch n go?
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it is still based on tng.

i think its leceh, especially for ppl who dont use this daily. have to buy the minimum of rm5 just to use rm1
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:49 PM)
it is still based on tng.

i think its leceh, especially for ppl who dont use this daily. have to buy the minimum of rm5 just to use rm1
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In longer term, I think they are going to scrap the paper ticket.
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can use any touch n go card even mykad ..?
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:44 PM)
leceh la benda ni actually
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do u even know wtf you are talking about?

daily tickets = waste of paper and print

this current method is similar to the tickets used in putra LRT in a sense. RECYCLABLE

less litter less hasle, and users dont need to carry spare change which weigh TONS on my wallet

if you got nothing constructive to say, be a Silent serpent. LITERALLY
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:50 PM)
In longer term, I think they are going to scrap the paper ticket.
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yeah, right now they still have paper tickets and still accept the rm1. later they wont rite?
btw, if u use the card rite now, got discount 20% kan?
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:50 PM)
In longer term, I think they are going to scrap the paper ticket.
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more business for ticket manufacturer whistling.gif
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oh now mean i can use my touch n go card

save me a bit, cause sometimes got no change
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but sometimes it's kinda annoy me laugh.gif
you know when whole bunch of people wanna get out from the bus and they need to touch the thing, then i need to wait them baru can go out trololol.
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Apr 7 2011, 06:52 PM)
can use any touch n go card even mykad ..?
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Yes.

QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:53 PM)
yeah, right now they still have paper tickets and still accept the rm1. later they wont rite?
btw, if u use the card rite now, got discount 20% kan?
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In future, they may not.

If you use the card, there is discount at the moment.

QUOTE(brian12988 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:53 PM)
more business for ticket manufacturer  whistling.gif
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I would say this will save the cost in the long run.

You keep Touch n Go for much longer than having paper ticket which is being disposed by the end of your trip.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Apr 7 2011, 06:52 PM)
do u even know wtf you are talking about?

daily tickets = waste of paper and print

this current method is similar to the tickets used in putra LRT in a sense. RECYCLABLE

less litter less hasle, and users dont need to carry spare change which weigh TONS on my wallet

if you got nothing constructive to say, be a Silent serpent. LITERALLY
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i know, and i talk based on my own fcking experience.
i already have 2 tng cards and now i need to get another one just for this machine, coz they dont accept the older tng cards.
some say can but i tried and still cannot.
so, i think its leceh for me and i prefer using rm1 instead, easier.
why use coins when there are rm1 notes btw?
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:55 PM)
Yes.
In future, they may not.

If you use the card, there is discount at the moment.
I would say this will save the cost in the long run.

You keep Touch n Go for much longer than having paper ticket which is being disposed by the end of your trip.
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i was just saying....in the end, card is always better than paper.. nod.gif

QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:56 PM)
i know, and i talk based on my own fcking experience.
i already have 2 tng cards and now i need to get another one just for this machine, coz they dont accept the older tng cards.
some say can but i tried and still cannot.
so, i think its leceh for me and i prefer using rm1 instead, easier.
why use coins when there are rm1 notes btw?
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return all ur tng cards and change to 1 new card... hmm.gif
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it will be good if the card is sold in 7-11
can u reload touch n go in 7-11?
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i think i prefer the normal touch n go card to this new card.

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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:56 PM)
i know, and i talk based on my own fcking experience.
i already have 2 tng cards and now i need to get another one just for this machine, coz they dont accept the older tng cards.
some say can but i tried and still cannot.
so, i think its leceh for me and i prefer using rm1 instead, easier.
why use coins when there are rm1 notes btw?
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you dont take buses to other distance eh?

the cost varies from RM1. 1.30, 1.50, or even 1.70 in some cases depending on area, this is around KL, PJ & Subang btw


@elm0001: using the touch system actually expedite the situation.
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:58 PM)
i was just saying....in the end, card is always better than paper.. nod.gif
return all ur tng cards and change to 1 new card... hmm.gif
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duwan lah.
btw, i still think its leceh, and as someone pointed out above, you have to wait for other ppl to BIT! first then only you can go out.
and what's worse, if you're in a rush or forgot to BIT! then you waste a lot laugh.gif
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QUOTE(oxpigb00 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:59 PM)
i think i prefer the normal touch n go card to this new card.
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All TnG card can be used.
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Apr 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
you dont take buses to other distance eh?

the cost varies from RM1. 1.30, 1.50, or even 1.70 in some cases depending on area, this is around KL, PJ & Subang btw
@elm0001: using the touch system actually expedite the situation.
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got such thing? i tot its only rm1, rm2, rm3 like that only whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
All TnG card can be used.
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my tng card cannot one. only at putra station can but i cannot BIT! sweat.gif
thats y i say its leceh
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 07:00 PM)
duwan lah.
btw, i still think its leceh, and as someone pointed out above, you have to wait for other ppl to BIT! first then only you can go out.
and what's worse, if you're in a rush or forgot to BIT! then you waste a lot laugh.gif
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but, new TnG cards are backward compatible..not sure if old cards can work on new machines as the TnG machines..
plus..u tak payah bring so many cards around.. nod.gif
buy paper ticket, u still have to wait for ppl to buy ticket also.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 07:02 PM)
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my tng card cannot one. only at putra station can but i cannot BIT! sweat.gif
thats y i say its leceh
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This is my experience laugh.gif
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:03 PM)
but, new TnG cards are backward compatible..not sure if old cards can work on new machines as the TnG machines..
plus..u tak payah bring so many cards around.. nod.gif
buy paper ticket, u still have to wait for ppl to buy ticket also.. hmm.gif
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but now most ppl are using the BIT card, so i just go to driver give rm1 and terus duduk. i didnt even take my paper ticket actually

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:04 PM)
This is my experience  laugh.gif
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wah got time to snap pic some more.
i dunno why my card cannot. i think my card is one of the earliest version. very2 old one
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 07:07 PM)
but now most ppl are using the BIT card, so i just go to driver give rm1 and terus duduk. i didnt even take my paper ticket actually
wah got time to snap pic some more.
i dunno why my card cannot. i think my card is one of the earliest version. very2 old one
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you mean your old tng card is the blue colour one?
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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Apr 7 2011, 07:08 PM)
you mean your old tng card is the blue colour one?
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my card got visit malaysia 2007 sweat.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 07:21 PM

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nice. my tng card is the same as kampung2005's.
now confident that my card can be use.


Added on April 7, 2011, 7:21 pmoh, just noticed your siggy there. =P

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anyone tried using the bit card in LRT?
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QUOTE(SilentSerpent @ Apr 7 2011, 06:49 PM)
it is still based on tng.

i think its leceh, especially for ppl who dont use this daily. have to buy the minimum of rm5 just to use rm1
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if they implement this, then I believe everyone will definitely keep a T&G card in their wallet, just like me in SG, even i ride my bike, i will always keep a Nets Cash card in my wallet, who knows i wanted to park and ride on that day, coz use EZlink or Nets will get rebate in SG. they should implement this system in MY also.
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:07 PM)
if they implement this, then I believe everyone will definitely keep a T&G card in their wallet, just like me in SG, even i ride my bike, i will always keep a Nets Cash card in my wallet, who knows i wanted to park and ride on that day, coz use EZlink or Nets will get rebate in SG. they should implement this system in MY also.
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The issue of rebate was mentioned in the NKRA in comparison to other cards such as Ezlink, Taipei card and London Oyster card.

Not sure what is the current status.
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Woohoo~ I'm a Bit Bit user~
Instantly reload RM50 into it~

Having problem top up at the 1st time~
the card keep cant read (cant top up) although the money already inserted~
after trying few tries, the bus driver also help me to top up~
he keep asking me "apasal lu punya card tak boleh?" sweat.gif

too bad cant use for toll charges~
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how is this new?
save for the card and fancy looking machine, didnt they implemented this
sometime around 2009?

back then they even have the machine that sell TnG card in the bus, i was caught offguard not noticing the date they stop accepting cash and have to spend rm10 for a new card, twice actualy as i forgot to bring the TnG card once..dammnnnnn
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QUOTE(badSeed @ Apr 7 2011, 10:30 PM)
how is this new?
save for the card and fancy looking machine, didnt they implemented this
sometime around 2009?

back then they even have the machine that sell TnG card in the bus, i was caught offguard not noticing the date they stop accepting cash and have to spend rm10 for a new card, twice actualy as i forgot to bring the TnG card once..dammnnnnn
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The current implementation includes onboard GPS system for exact fare calculation.
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It work fine to me. Just need to installed more reload machine around lrt station or main bus stop area like Kl sentral or pasar seni.
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there's a conspiracy behind this implementation to this new ticketing system.....

believe it or not, I heard it from the drivers that there's a new datuk in Rapid's company and he has signed a 3 year contract for this system.

so if he's contract ends in 3 years, this system might be scrapped off and all the profit he brings along.
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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:55 PM)
but sometimes it's kinda annoy me laugh.gif
you know when whole bunch of people wanna get out from the bus and they need to touch the thing, then i need to wait them baru can go out trololol.
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been there..sux big time, especially when the machine having problem reading some cards and that guy keep on trying and trying and cursing and other people kept on pushing...if get off the bus without touching then the card cannot be used until it has recorded that you have left the bus, same like lrt and komuter..lets hope this issue has been solved with the new system

QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:31 PM)
The current implementation includes onboard GPS system for exact fare calculation.
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during traffic jam, if the driver decided to take detour will be system charge extra?
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QUOTE(selangorclay @ Apr 7 2011, 10:39 PM)
why cant they just install redio wave transmitter near every station for every bus to know where the fucuk they are at... GPS is so unreliable especially in areas where there are trees and what not.
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Radio wave transmitter is poor choice (not even possible) to locate hundreds of buses.

It has interference and less accurate compared to GPS.

Tracking bus using GPS is a proven method.
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QUOTE(badSeed @ Apr 7 2011, 10:41 PM)
during traffic jam, if the driver decided to take detour will be system charge extra?
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Very very unlikely.

I never seen driver take detour before, and the calculation based on zones.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 10:42 PM)
Radio wave transmitter is poor choice (not even possible) to locate hundreds of buses.

It has interference and less accurate compared to GPS.

Tracking bus using GPS is a proven method.
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yup... radio lagi la tak reliable kena ade sub station untuk relay signal + badwidth untuk radio transmission = kecik
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Apr 7 2011, 06:59 PM)
it will be good if the card is sold in 7-11
can u reload touch n go in 7-11?
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Do you know that you can buy new (TnG) Rabbit card, and reload/topup on the bus?

I'm not sure any 7-11 do TnG topup, but there are many phone shops and convenient store that do. See http://touchngo.com.my/?pg=syswhere2reloadt search for "Agents".
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:45 PM)
All-day ticket has been scrapped in 2009.
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They should implement it again. It's more attractive.

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