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lizziewong
post Jan 10 2012, 03:40 PM

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Zheilwane,

Looking at the piping plan below, I think my plumber had made the same mistake. My rain shower when using cold water is stronger, but when I use warm water drawn from a water heater tank, the pressure drops.

My 1-year old pump just spoilt, and all the taps in the First Floor baths are down to a trickle (not so trickle, but water is super super slow).

My pump is set up outside my house, I was told this is better because of easier access for repair or maintenance. I have a switch next to the pump, I supposed when it is time to change the pump or to repair, etc, one just need to switch off. I dont have any shelter, other than for the eaves of the roof.

I was advise that I shld have a switch inside the house, so I could just switch on the pump for bathing purposes.

Currently, my pump 'wails' every now and then, as it powers the 2 bathrooms and every time I turn on a tap or flush the toilets, the noise goes..

Any advise?




QUOTE(zheilwane @ Oct 2 2011, 12:25 AM)
Just a quick question, where did u purchase the pump from? The seller cant help u? You should really buy from some1 who is professional and could give u good advise. For example, if ur plumber has done the piping as per ur photo, you will have some problems after the installation....

a) The most important thing, you need to install PVC unions as per grundfos requirements.

b) If cold water is boosted by the water pump while the hot water is using water tank's water, your hot water pressure will b much weaker than the cold water. So, when u r showering, you will feel the water is not hot enough as u r getting more cold water than hot. Therefore, the tank's outlet should go into your pump then split to ur heater and down to your bathroom. By doing this, you will have same pressure for both hot and cold.

c) The pump by pass is wrong. Imagine u r using 8-10" rain shower but ur pump is out of order, so you will b using the pump by pass. However, the water supply is from the tank, do you think u will have sufficient water pressure to power up the rain showers? You should do a main water by pass instead.

Here is how the installation should look like
user posted image

Hope that answers ur question
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lizziewong
post Jan 10 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 03:45 PM)
What do you mean by wails?
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Very noisy lah.. like a siren!!!!!!!!!!!
lizziewong
post Jan 10 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 04:32 PM)
Few things you need to make sure

01) Pump is sitting on a secure surface
02) Pump is sitting on the anti vibration map
03) The outgoing pipe from the pump need to be fully secure. My contractor actually screw / nail the outgoing pipe to a wood where the wood are secure to the roof truss.
04) A good pump of course biggrin.gif

I am using grundfos, i don't hear hammer sound. Sound sure got when the pump is on, is not loud, and it won't wake you up during sleep
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My pump is not a grundfos, as my husband got persuaded by my plumber to fix sthg else. Since it 'koyak' after a mere 1 year, it works out to be more expensive, so my plumber's argument that grundfos is all about paying for brand really fall flat. In my moment of weakness, I let this one go... so it is a costly lesson loh...

My next pump will be a grundfos for sure... but I would like to take the opportunity to correct the plumbing route (if it is still possible??) as water coming out of the boiler has little pressure, and to fix a switch inside the house so I only switch the pump on for showers (an engineer gave this advise lah!!). Of course, I am not sure that the s/s bracket on the exterior wall can house the new pump or not.



lizziewong
post Jan 10 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 04:52 PM)
Sound like the boiler inlet are not from pump, that is why you get low pressure for hot water.
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Yes, I realise this is a possibility after looking at the drawing updated by Zane!!!!!

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lizziewong
post Jan 10 2012, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jan 10 2012, 05:05 PM)
I read you also switch on the pump 24/7? Is actually recommend to put the on/off switch inside to only switch on when require.
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Yes, the pump was on 24/7. Quite embarassing when one use the WC or wash hands at midnite or later!! My plumber assures me that this is the correct way mad.gif. I was also under the impression that if the pump is not on, there will be no water flowing into the bath taps, etc.

Now I need to do this:
1. install a switch inside the house.
2. Route the piping to let the boiler draw water from the pump.

are these jobs difficult to do?
lizziewong
post Jan 11 2012, 01:36 PM

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Tks. Will certainly drop by. I still have water supplied to all the baths. Dont mind to take a bit more time, as I want a comprehensive solution!!



QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jan 10 2012, 10:27 PM)
I guess your plumber mounted the water pump on a wall. When the pump vibrates a little, the vibration will travel down to ur house and the noise is also amplified.

Not very difficult to do the stuff above but due to CNY is around the corner, it will b costly to do so (plumbers will hike up the price).

If you wanna get the problem solved quick, jus drop by my shop and speak to Thomas, he would b able to give some good advise.

 

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