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TSckh83
post Apr 6 2011, 11:47 PM, updated 15y ago

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Anyone using VPN service now?

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post Apr 7 2011, 03:20 AM

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post Apr 7 2011, 03:25 AM

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That's what people here have been doing for many years, even before unifi.
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post Apr 7 2011, 04:07 PM

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Why VPN ? That not fair servics, on Hong kong and other place(Most), not P2P/BT throttling.

Also VPN company is a TM sub company ?
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post Apr 7 2011, 04:13 PM

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seriously i have been downloading from HTTP protocol such as Hotfile, I do not need VPN at all.
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post Apr 7 2011, 05:04 PM

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I already run a VPN service :-)
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post Apr 7 2011, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(jackal1950 @ Apr 7 2011, 04:13 PM)
seriously i have been downloading from HTTP protocol such as Hotfile, I do not need VPN at all.
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u will need it once they cap/throttle the hosting server
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post Apr 7 2011, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(wacomuse @ Apr 7 2011, 04:07 PM)
Why VPN ? That not fair servics, on Hong kong and other place(Most), not P2P/BT throttling.

Also VPN company is a TM sub company ?
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Yes, for other country not P2P/BT throttling no need VPN.
But in Malaysia, no choise. blush.gif

VPN company normally is foreign country.


Added on April 19, 2011, 5:44 pmIf you haven't download speed slow issue can pm me.
I can guide you to check whether it is due to P2P/BT throttling issue.

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post Nov 26 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(ckh83 @ Apr 7 2011, 06:26 PM)
Yes, for other country not P2P/BT throttling no need VPN.
But in Malaysia, no choise. blush.gif

VPN company normally is foreign country.


Added on April 19, 2011, 5:44 pmIf you haven't download speed slow issue can pm me.
I can guide you to check whether it is due to P2P/BT throttling issue.
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can we avoiding bandwith limit like p1, using vpn..?
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post Nov 27 2011, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(karigal @ Nov 26 2011, 09:02 PM)
can we avoiding bandwith limit like p1, using vpn..?
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Nope. VPN is used to improve you connection speed to mostly europe and us, not to bypass the bandwidth limitation.

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post Nov 28 2011, 10:56 PM

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P2P still works for me in a range of ip, tested, confirmed it is

as long as I got the right ip, it's like unthrottled p2p connection like the internet I use when I was in Australia,

download almost everything from public tracker, always hit maximum speed in few seconds from clicked "Start" on utorrent,

other ip ranges, fastest always below 40kb/s, average 20kb/s,
often at single digit speed, takes long time to go higher speed

I'm going to go 4mbps if it's available in my place, (Unifi no need think la, not possible), and most likely will lost my "p2p ip range" on 2m/4m streamyx package, they get different ip than 512k/1mbps account,

if that happens on upgrade to 4mbps, yes I will subscribe VPN, I don't often use DDL , especially for a single huge file, or with tons of splitted files, so lazy and troublesome to dl like that. and possible get file corruptions

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post Dec 2 2011, 10:59 AM

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VPN waste money only...just pay for direct download service like filesonic, fileserve etc...can download full speed.

I repeat, VPN + Bit torrent in the hope of full speed BT, is a waste of time and money. Been there, done that.


Added on December 2, 2011, 11:02 am
QUOTE(squall0833 @ Nov 28 2011, 10:56 PM)
P2P still works for me in a range of ip, tested, confirmed it is

as long as I got the right ip, it's like unthrottled p2p connection like the internet I use when I was in Australia,

download almost everything from public tracker, always hit maximum speed in few seconds from clicked "Start" on utorrent,

other ip ranges, fastest always below 40kb/s, average 20kb/s,
often at single digit speed, takes long time to go higher speed

I'm going to go 4mbps if it's available in my place, (Unifi no need think la, not possible), and most likely will lost my "p2p ip range" on 2m/4m streamyx package, they get different ip than 512k/1mbps account,

if that happens on upgrade to 4mbps, yes I will subscribe VPN, I don't often use DDL , especially for a single huge file, or with tons of splitted files, so lazy and troublesome to dl like that. and possible get file corruptions
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Never happened to me before. And i've been DDL for over a year after giving up torrenting. There is this thing called MIPONY (or other download managers), which managed your DDL download, and extract the files automatically from multiple splitted files. I have never ever encountered a corruption file yet.

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post Dec 2 2011, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Dec 2 2011, 10:59 AM)
VPN waste money only...just pay for direct download service like filesonic, fileserve etc...can download full speed.
Now direct download services also being throttled like no tomorrow.

Imagine a 4mbps line only getting like 25-50kBps. Feels more like I'm paying for a 4M line but getting a 1M line instead.

Only certain early hours in the morning speeds return to normal like 350-400kBps.

TM is REALLY overselling their lines. If they can't keep up with resources then don't sell 4M lines to people in the first place.

Either that or their Unifi users have used up all the bandwidth available leaving almost nothing to Streamyx users.
Their overselling went too much to Unifi services instead.
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post Dec 4 2011, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Dec 2 2011, 10:59 AM)
VPN waste money only...just pay for direct download service like filesonic, fileserve etc...can download full speed.

I repeat, VPN + Bit torrent in the hope of full speed BT, is a waste of time and money. Been there, done that.


Added on December 2, 2011, 11:02 am
Never happened to me before. And i've been DDL for over a year after giving up torrenting. There is this thing called MIPONY (or other download managers), which managed your DDL download, and extract the files automatically from multiple splitted files. I have never ever encountered a corruption file yet.
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thats why, tons of splitted files, I hate that, just hate that,

download managers I do know that, but I don't feel like to use any 3rd party downloader that supports resuming incomplete files, I was using download managers to DDL many years ago since 2004, and there's small a chance u get file corruption even on download manager, files download completed 100% but corrupted, cannot open, can;t be repair, some download manager can repair but rare,

it never happened on you, thats your luck, can you guarantee no one ever gets file corruption with download manager?

I still stay on P2P, most bt clients has file hash value check and repair by redownloading the broken part instead of redownloading whole huge files over again on DDL download manager, save time and convenient

subscribing on DDL services? that was indeed a great idea, but not for now since TM throttled most popular file hosting DDL, especially on Streamyx users, even if you are premium user, still get the limited speed as ipohbee said,

Another reason P2P is better, most DDL services are 100% traffic from overseas, at least P2P you got local peers can share you some data.

Streamyx users are throttled, popular file hosting services and P2P,
UniFi users seem like no problem on DDL from file hosting services and P2P (maybe unthrottled)

I'm a Streamyx user, so should I waste my money on a DDL service that maybe throttled by TM? or on VPN service encrypts any traffics for unthrottled connection? (not only for P2P, also DDL and others)
unless our ISP did something directly to the VPN service providers, then VPN maybe useless that time.
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ATM I'm still using the ip range that still give me guarantee unthrottled P2P connection, hope these ips last longer

This post has been edited by squall0833: Dec 4 2011, 02:26 AM
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post Dec 4 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Dec 2 2011, 10:59 AM)
VPN waste money only...just pay for direct download service like filesonic, fileserve etc...can download full speed.

I repeat, VPN + Bit torrent in the hope of full speed BT, is a waste of time and money. Been there, done that.


Added on December 2, 2011, 11:02 am
Never happened to me before. And i've been DDL for over a year after giving up torrenting. There is this thing called MIPONY (or other download managers), which managed your DDL download, and extract the files automatically from multiple splitted files. I have never ever encountered a corruption file yet.
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VPN not wasting money at all. For TM users, At least it can provide a secure connection for you unless if government order the VPN company to submit your account information and the network monitoring logs. But, chances for our government to do it is quite low because the VPN services we used mostly are provided by overseas companies, our government has no right to order them to do anything.

For other non-TM ISP like Celcom, DiGi, Maxis, P1, etc, their way of blocking the file hosting websites (which MCMC ordered to block) is quite different than what TM use. At this moment, for the users of those ISPs, the only ways to access those blocked sites is to use either anonymous proxies or VPN.
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post Dec 4 2011, 02:33 PM

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If buying tons of File sharing website, I would rather pay for VPN, how many file sharing website out there you need to pay to get premium?
Rapidshare? No one use this anymore.
Filesonic? Not all downloads uses that.
Megaupload? Same?
etc. etc.... Are you going to buy all those just to download certain files?
BT got all the files I need, just join a few great community and you're good to go, and you only need to pay for the VPN and the speed is almost guaranteed unless TM server issue, even that I often got full speed even though there's TM International AAG or whatever cable issue while most of the File sharing premium users shouting their throat out here.
DDL has its advantage, but I'm not gonna buy premium just for the speed.
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post Dec 4 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 4 2011, 02:33 PM)
If buying tons of File sharing website, I would rather pay for VPN, how many file sharing website out there you need to pay to get premium?
Rapidshare? No one use this anymore.
Filesonic? Not all downloads uses that.
Megaupload? Same?
etc. etc.... Are you going to buy all those just to download certain files?
BT got all the files I need, just join a few great community and you're good to go, and you only need to pay for the VPN and the speed is almost guaranteed unless TM server issue, even that I often got full speed even though there's TM International AAG or whatever cable issue while most of the File sharing premium users shouting their throat out here.
DDL has its advantage, but I'm not gonna buy premium just for the speed.
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I have been using VPN for a few years doesn't matter direct download from file hosting or BT. Now even basic serving the net also over VPN (slower browsing experience). The only thing cannot use a VPN was playing online games. The reason behind was because of TM network throttle. My Streamyx 4Mbps can't even play my favorite YouTube channel properly without VPN.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 4 2011, 02:33 PM)
If buying tons of File sharing website, I would rather pay for VPN, how many file sharing website out there you need to pay to get premium?
Rapidshare? No one use this anymore.
Filesonic? Not all downloads uses that.
Megaupload? Same?
etc. etc.... Are you going to buy all those just to download certain files?
BT got all the files I need, just join a few great community and you're good to go, and you only need to pay for the VPN and the speed is almost guaranteed unless TM server issue, even that I often got full speed even though there's TM International AAG or whatever cable issue while most of the File sharing premium users shouting their throat out here.
DDL has its advantage, but I'm not gonna buy premium just for the speed.
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smart people buy multi downloader account.. its cheaper than vpn n you can download from a lot of hosting site with premium speed.. no need to waste time for p2p file that has low seed.

This post has been edited by blackamikaze: Dec 5 2011, 04:34 AM
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post Dec 5 2011, 04:48 AM

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Hah, some ppl just don't know anything behind what our ISP has done(especially Streamyx users), then come here speak like a smart guy

everyone knows low seed p2p torrents are always slow, but even with very high seed/peer healthy torrent, still get terrible speed because of stupid hidden p2p throttling, thats why VPN is needed

file hosting multi downloader paid premium account, still useless for "Streamyx" users because limited international bandwidth our ISP provide us, paid for one account is cheaper than VPN, how about multiple different file hosting service account? thats alot expensive than just a VPN service for all

VPN is not only for P2P also for other purposes

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post Dec 5 2011, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Dec 5 2011, 04:48 AM)
Hah, some ppl just don't know anything behind what our ISP has done(especially Streamyx users), then come here speak like a smart guy

everyone knows low seed p2p torrents are always slow, but even with very high seed/peer healthy torrent, still get terrible speed because of stupid hidden p2p throttling, thats why VPN is needed

file hosting multi downloader paid premium account, still useless forĀ  "Streamyx" users because limited international bandwidth our ISP provide us, paid for one account is cheaper than VPN, how about multiple different file hosting service account? thats alot expensive than just a VPN service for all

VPN is not only for P2P also for other purposes
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multi downloader site not gonna affected by streamyx since it acts like a proxy. U will download the file from various hosting trough their server.. kinda like VPN actually even not quite the same. U just buy one account for around rm10 and u can download from any hosting u want...

and yes, i know what im talking about. No need to proud about ur VPN knowledge.. im actually one of the few pioneer in this forum that try to find a way to bypass p2p limitation by streamyx a long time ago. We start with socks proxy and a few tunnel program but it doesnt work well and expensive. After that we found out about cheap swedish VPN that work well accept it often down.. after that a few local invidual started the VPN business in here n the rest is history.. so im quite aware how VPN work since i used it even before u know about it.. but i move on.. wink.gif

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