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hunter1425
post Jun 22 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(orientaliew @ Jun 21 2011, 05:11 PM)
initially i want solid wood for my ground floor living cum dining area, after some reading n searching looks like i have no choice but to choose laminated flooring.

1) problem of waterproofing. the new extension floor can do waterproofing but if to hack the old floor n redo waterproofing, the costing is simply too high. sad.gif 

2) even if i choose the common merbau solid wood, the price is easily 3 times more than a common laminated flooring, not to mention my favorite teak. blush.gif

i thing for sure, i will not pick the "woodlike" vinyl tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lizziewong @ Jun 21 2011, 05:15 PM)
Ground floor use timber need to have good water proofing, if not, heart sick later.   Tiles are the most sensible.  Bedrooms upstairs if use timber wld be nice.
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I think both of you looking for trouble.

Ground floor, always have water vapour seeping out of the concrete, thus worse for laminated flooring as de-lamination will 100% occur. Ignore what the manufacturer claim, unless they are willing to give you a lifetime warranty against de-lamination. No glue is soooo good, the heat and cold cycle inside our house will cause the glue to degrade over the years. Don't understand ?? easy, same as any good expensive pair of shoe, the sole will de-laminate after a few year.... hot and cold cycle. Heat from our feet and cool down when you take off your shoe. Ask any good shoe sales person.

Just for your understanding re solid wood flooring, thickness and length do matter on cost.
All solid timber costing is calculated from either per M3 or MT ( volume ton = 1.416 m3 ), so whatever your contractor quote you, work out the cost per m3 or mt to compare.
Eg : 16mm x 95mm @ rm12/m run = 1 / (0.016 x 0.09 ) x rm12 = rm8333 / m3 . Use only 0.09 instead of 0.095 cos 5mm is eaten up by the tongue&groove (T&G).
For ground floor, best to use only 18mm up thickness, too much traffic, unless the batten is placed very closely.

As for the length of 3ft to 6ft, this are majority imported from Indonesia, Finish product like flooring is still legal to be exported. Cost is around usd1200-1400/m3, KD with or without T&G. WHERE GOT SO MUCH MERBAU IN MALAYSIA except from Sabah.

As for waterproofing the ground floor, ask any good tiling supplier, there is already in the market waterproofing coating chemical to coat over the existing tile as waterproofing. Ask around, you are paying for heartache if not. whistling.gif whistling.gif

Merbau is super for flooring if you can afford it.

This post has been edited by hunter1425: Jun 22 2011, 03:57 PM
hunter1425
post Jun 22 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 04:09 PM)
Hi there,

can I know where did you get this material conversion factor ( volume ton = 1.416 m3 )??
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Google lah.

Timber is calculated by volumetric tonnage. Very confusing when timber men quote by MT.

Standard is 50 ft3 = 1 MT = 1.416 M3.

Keke, I was in timber b4. brows.gif brows.gif
hunter1425
post Jun 22 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 04:39 PM)
I guess that is for general calculation...

Apart from that, I guess your calculation is based on Saw Mill supply rate excluding all the process to manufactured into Timber Flooring?
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Standard market for T&G processing won't be more than rm500/MT.

Cost at usd1200-1400/m3 is for Grade A Merbau, flooring sizes, rip or S4S KD (MC 10-12%) timber.
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post Jun 22 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(orientaliew @ Jun 22 2011, 04:51 PM)
so mr hunter, r u suggesting that only those with deep pocket or stay at 2 storey house may use wood flooring, be it solid or laminated? doh.gif
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To each his own bro.

Some love to spend money on their house, some on girls, some on drug, some on gadget, some on car, so many some of........... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


I myself loves timber flooring, just our Malaysia weather is not favouring timber flooring on ground floor. Still possible, but..... hiya lots of headache to do it properly. sweat.gif sweat.gif


There are lots of other cheaper good Malaysian timber suitable for flooring, why use the expensive Merbau ? Check with MTIB ( Malaysian Timber Industry Board ).
hunter1425
post Jun 22 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(orientaliew @ Jun 22 2011, 05:29 PM)
i thought merbau is considered common n "cheap" already, what would u suggest Mr Hunter? sad.gif
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Common and cheap is what the timber retailer are telling you.

Common for them as they can anytime buy from Indo ( Indo is exporting no less than 10,000 m3/mth all over the world for this species), cheap to them cos they can get easy margin of 20% just trading. No sweat lah.

For other local suitable timber for flooring, ask MTIB opinion and go and see the sample. Individual taste on color, grain . etc ,etc. American loves red colored wood, same as Chinese, Japanese and European prefer light yellowish color. So, personal taste.

Teak is considered an exotic timber for the non teak producing country. U know the teak used for building super yacht cost easily Euro20,000/m3 ?


Added on June 22, 2011, 5:58 pm
QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 05:33 PM)


There are more Hardwood Timber flooring around (e.g Teak, Pinewood and etc) which is imported timber flooring...
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Bro, pine is classed under temperate softwood. Pine is used as all purpose utility softwood, except the pine from New Zealand. Bro, those NZ plantation pine is beautiful lah.

Temperate hardwood is only equal to our tropical medium hard.

This post has been edited by hunter1425: Jun 22 2011, 05:58 PM
hunter1425
post Jun 23 2011, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(orientaliew @ Jun 23 2011, 12:04 PM)

what is MCB n DB box? icon_question.gif
Just google lah bro.

Wiki " MCB (Miniature Circuit Breaker)--A circuit breaker is an automatically operated electrical switch designed to protect an electrical circuit from damage caused by overload or short circuit. "

It is those black color thingy inside your DB. A lot are made in Malaysia , sirim approved, are just as good. Only the ELCB buy better imported one safer.
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post Jun 23 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 23 2011, 01:55 PM)
Many with Sirim approved five problem too. You know how sirim approve things?
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