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TStatamiusuka
post Apr 4 2011, 05:01 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi all,

I would like to know what should I know for applying a job for entry level(Fresh Graduate without any working experience) network engineer, system engineer and all those position about computer networking. For what I saw from almost all vacancy in this field basically the requirements is good understanding of TCP/IP.

Any senior or brother/sister who are working in this field can please giving me advise? your answer for me is must appreciate. Because I would like to do revision before going for interview. Thank you. icon_question.gif
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post Apr 4 2011, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Apr 4 2011, 05:01 PM)
Hi all,

I would like to know what should I know for applying a job for entry level(Fresh Graduate without any working experience)  network engineer, system engineer and all those position about computer networking. For what I saw from almost all vacancy in this field basically the requirements is good understanding of TCP/IP.

Any senior or brother/sister who are working in this field can please giving me advise? your answer for me is must appreciate. Because I would like to do revision before going for interview. Thank you. icon_question.gif
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tatamiusuka,

1) Goto www.cisco.com Search for tutorial on TCP/IP.

2) Read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Internetworking-TCP-...e/dp/0130183806

3) Google is your friend. Just google "TCP/IP Tutorial".

Dreamer

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post Apr 4 2011, 08:30 PM

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Thank dreamer for your reply,

but for what I was like to know is TCP/IP is it the only topic they will ask in the interview for being a network engineer?

I have knowledge in TCP/IP just worries and wondering about that, will there be other question asking from other protocol
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post Apr 4 2011, 08:57 PM

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Suggest you learn Cisco CCNA or atleast Comptia Network+ as a basic.
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Well, if you have previously studied and understand CCNA, then you have the first step. Keep in mind that passing CCNA via memorizing does not count. Sure you have the cert for doing that but your career will not rocket anywhere. So what's the big deal on TCP/IP? In a network engineer's world, that like everything. Regardless whether your focus is on network security, wireless, ISP, routing, load balancers, WAN or LAN, they all require knowledge on how TCP/IP functions.
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QUOTE(pkh @ Apr 4 2011, 10:55 PM)
Well, if you have previously studied and understand CCNA, then you have the first step. Keep in mind that passing CCNA via memorizing does not count. Sure you have the cert for doing that but your career will not rocket anywhere. So what's the big deal on TCP/IP? In a network engineer's world, that like everything. Regardless whether your focus is on network security, wireless, ISP, routing, load balancers, WAN or LAN, they all require knowledge on how TCP/IP functions.
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Thank for you reply. I haven't sit for my CCNA final exam but already earn finish my CCNA1 to CCNA4 academic exam while doing my Bachelor degree.
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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Apr 4 2011, 08:30 PM)
Thank dreamer for your reply,

but for what I was like to know is TCP/IP is it the only topic they will ask in the interview for being a network engineer?

I have knowledge in TCP/IP  just worries and wondering about that, will there be other question asking from other protocol
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tatamiusuka,

It is GIVEN that you will not be able to answer all questions.

The MAIN THING is how do you answer the question that you do not know the answer??

For example, if I ask you about XYZ protocol and you know NOTHING about this protocol. How will you answer??

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post Apr 5 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 4 2011, 11:59 PM)
tatamiusuka,

It is GIVEN that you will not be able to answer all questions.

The MAIN THING is how do you answer the question that you do not know the answer??

For example, if I ask you about XYZ protocol and you know NOTHING about this protocol.  How will you answer??

Dreamer
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Thank Dreamer rclxms.gif

If i really no nothings about it, I think I will straightly tell him/her "I dun have any idea about this". I know this might be not a good answer. Any adviser for me?


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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Apr 5 2011, 01:14 AM)
Thank Dreamer  rclxms.gif

If i really no nothings about it, I think I will straightly tell him/her "I dun have any idea about this". I know this might be not a good answer. Any adviser for me?
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tatamiusuka,

Then, you just FAILED the interview....

What do you DO when you do not know the answer to any question???

Dreamer
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Seriously if I do not know the answers for a certain question I will just be straight forward because technically we cant bs anything because they know right?

Or is there any tips from sifus?
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QUOTE(freeman1314 @ Apr 5 2011, 05:11 AM)
Seriously if I do not know the answers for a certain question I will just be straight forward because technically we cant bs anything because they know right?

Or is there any tips from sifus?
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freeman1314,

The GOAL of the question is to see what a person will do when he / she does not know the answer.

1) BS about knowing -> FAILED -> You are a bad liar

2) Just said that you know nothing -> FAILED -> You are a spoon fed person. You expect answer to be given to you. When you do not know the answer, you are stuck.

Remember, in networking, most of the time, people DO NOT KNOW the answer. The DIFFERENCE between people that can survive and succeed in networking and not is on what they DO when they do not know the answer.

Dreamer
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 5 2011, 09:48 AM)
freeman1314,

The GOAL of the question is to see what a person will do when he / she does not know the answer.

1) BS about knowing -> FAILED -> You are a bad liar

2) Just said that you know nothing -> FAILED -> You are a spoon fed person.  You expect answer to be given to you.  When you do not know the answer, you are stuck.

Remember, in networking, most of the time, people DO NOT KNOW the answer.  The DIFFERENCE between people that can survive and succeed in networking and not is on what they DO when they do not know the answer.

Dreamer
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Thank for Dreamer! rclxms.gif

So if i answer like, "I have really no idea it this case, but if I have the opportunity to work with you then I will have the chance on gaining this knowledge with my senior, but after this interview I will go for some research, or might you tell me some things about that?"

Actually Dreamer can you please tell us what will be ur answer in the situation, so that we can have a guideline regarding this situation.

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For freshmen, yes TCP/IP knowledge is a must.

Try master:-
- 7 layers OSI (functions/protocols on the layers)
- routing protocols (how they works and etc)
- MPLS? most big companies are using these
- CONFIDENT (you have the knowledges but without confident you can't even sell yourself to the interviewer)

One thing, if the interviewer asked regarding some question that you are not able to answer. Let them know that you doesn't know much about it but try elaborate briefly on the protocols/routing/commands/system how they usually works.

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It's a fresh grad position, they're not going to ask you hardcore IP questions. Just something simple like subnet masking, port forwarding, firewall rules, snmp, pinging etc.

If you're going into application development then you'll need to know the OSI model, else it's just all theoretical. No need to bother with IPv6 or things like protocol X over IP. That's AFTER you've have some real working experience.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Apr 5 2011, 10:50 AM)
For freshmen, yes TCP/IP knowledge is a must.

Try master:-
- 7 layers OSI (functions/protocols on the layers)
- routing protocols (how they works and etc)
- MPLS? most big companies are using these
- CONFIDENT (you have the knowledges but without confident you can't  even sell yourself to the interviewer)

One thing, if the interviewer asked regarding some question that you are not able to answer. Let them know that you doesn't know much about it but try elaborate briefly on the protocols/routing/commands/system how they usually works.
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Thank you! Ur information is very appreciate. rclxms.gif


Added on April 5, 2011, 10:56 am
QUOTE(spanker @ Apr 5 2011, 10:50 AM)
It's a fresh grad position, they're not going to ask you hardcore IP questions. Just something simple like subnet masking, port forwarding, firewall rules, snmp, pinging etc.

If you're going into application development then you'll need to know the OSI model, else it's just all theoretical. No need to bother with IPv6 or things like protocol X over IP. That's AFTER you've have some real working experience.
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o.O subnet masking? Basically is asking the theory or calculate the subnet mask?

Thank for reply as well rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by tatamiusuka: Apr 5 2011, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Apr 5 2011, 10:54 AM)
Thank you! Ur information is very appreciate.  rclxms.gif


Added on April 5, 2011, 10:56 am

o.O subnet masking? Basically is asking the theory or calculate the subnet mask?

Thank for reply as well  rclxms.gif
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you are welcome. Just here for help blush.gif
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QUOTE(LivingLife @ Apr 5 2011, 11:28 AM)
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@@, thank alot. I will read it when I free. TQ
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QUOTE(tatamiusuka @ Apr 5 2011, 10:36 AM)
Thank for Dreamer!  rclxms.gif

So if i answer like, "I have really no idea it this case, but if I have the opportunity to work with you then I will have the chance on gaining this knowledge with my senior, but after this interview I will go for some research, or might you tell me some things about that?"

Actually Dreamer can you please tell us what will be ur answer in the situation, so that we can have a guideline regarding this situation.
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tatamiusuka,

<<but after this interview I will go for some research, >>

FAILED. This means you trying to BS that you know how to do research. You NEVER done this before...

<<I have really no idea it this case, but if I have the opportunity to work with you then I will have the chance on gaining this knowledge with my senior,>>

FAILED. This means that you need to be spoon fed. You do not have your own resources to learn stuff.

A REAL networking person will answer this way.

I do not know about this protocol. But, normally, I will search XYZ web site for this kind of information. Ditto, for tutorial, I use this ABC web site.

A REAL NETWORKING person will face this kind of question. And, that person will have the MOTIVATION and DRIVE to do this kind of research. Hence, they will know which web site to go and use.

At this stage, YOU are not. YOU are a pretender. YOU never even did a google search on "TCP/IP tutorial" before. Much less some other strange and interesting stuff.

In REAL WORLD, it is LESS IMPORTANT to know stuff. YOU will NEVER know enough. It is MORE IMPORTANT to have the ABILITY to research and find stuff. Plus, the ability to self study.

Dreamer

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 5 2011, 07:02 PM)
tatamiusuka,

<<but after this interview I will go for some research, >>

FAILED.  This means you trying to BS that you know how to do research.  You NEVER done this before...

<<I have really no idea it this case, but if I have the opportunity to work with you then I will have the chance on gaining this knowledge with my senior,>>

FAILED.  This means that you need to be spoon fed.  You do not have your own resources to learn stuff.

A REAL networking person will answer this way.

I do not know about this protocol.  But, normally, I will search XYZ web site for this kind of information. Ditto, for tutorial, I use this ABC web site. 

A REAL NETWORKING person will face this kind of question.  And, that person will have the MOTIVATION and DRIVE to do this kind of research.  Hence, they will know which web site to go and use.

At this stage, YOU are not.  YOU are a pretender.  YOU never even did a google search on "TCP/IP tutorial" before.  Much less some other strange and interesting stuff.

In REAL WORLD, it is LESS IMPORTANT to know stuff.  YOU will NEVER know enough.  It is MORE IMPORTANT to have the ABILITY to research and find stuff.  Plus, the ability to self study.

Dreamer
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I am very appreciate with your reply. Normally all protocol is come from Cisco and IEEE, so did i just tell them i go for IEEE to do check it out? Or i just say google it?

and i very hate ur sentence "YOU never even did a google search on "TCP/IP tutorial" before".
Please dun simply judge people. I get my award in Bachelor degree and also I have been finish some of Cisco academic course, are you thinking doing a bachelor degree and cisco academic does not need to do research for all of the general protocol? If you are welling to help people please be kindly.

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