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 -+♦+- LYN PROTON PERSONA CLUB V14 in 2011 -+♦+-

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mafarizan
post Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM

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Maybe can try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbPHszGY4hY

or

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlgfL3XRjw

This post has been edited by mafarizan: Apr 14 2011, 11:28 AM
shelby_yong
post Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 11:25 AM)
U Got Private Message
Thats the thing. He went to SC & the mechanics diagnosed it as IAFM problem.

Mine comes with yellow sticker and still having the IAFM problem. Explanation?
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i think that IAFM... sooner or later sure problem come out.... cause last time a malay technician tell me that.. barang plastic mana boleh tahan panas..
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 14 2011, 10:47 AM)
Then can make my car into part time Disco ady mah.. hehe.. Im researching on how to design this kind of strobe light system and interior lighting..  flex.gif


Hmmm never thought of it.. kk will go ask him...  laugh.gif


Added on April 14, 2011, 11:03 amHmm this thread looks like just got upgraded with slotted and crossdrilled 12pot ceramic brakes and 1200degrees racing brake pads.. Totally stop ady..
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my fren maybe can help u modify the lighting system..next time i show photo of my previous club at johor..all member is modify the lighting system..my previous wira se oso..
mafarizan
post Apr 14 2011, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 11:25 AM)
U Got Private Message
Thats the thing. He went to SC & the mechanics diagnosed it as IAFM problem.

Mine comes with yellow sticker and still having the IAFM problem. Explanation?
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Oh ya ka bro..... If proton technical people told that... maybe the tellow sticker one also have that problem lah....
But mine still ok till now.......
armadasaxon
post Apr 14 2011, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(pupumaru @ Apr 14 2011, 09:20 AM)
Morning!~  rclxm9.gif

Alamak, CoSE said weekends if send car only can service.
No Complaints  shakehead.gif
No Repair  rclxub.gif


Added on April 14, 2011, 9:22 am

At least better than my F*** neighbour  vmad.gif
she take the law into her own hands and scratch people's car.
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u tell her that the road outside the house does not belong to her..
ask her how many square feet she buy..
at night go throw egg at her windscreen.
mafarizan
post Apr 14 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 14 2011, 11:31 AM)
u tell her that the road outside the house does not belong to her..
ask her how many square feet she buy..
at night go throw egg at her windscreen.
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Your fc is same like me la bro.... but Im using autolite ....... only manage to get 270km for full tank..... rclxub.gif
TSxandras
post Apr 14 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mafarizan @ Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM)
Maybe can try this:

[/YOUTUBE]www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbPHszGY4hY[YOUTUBE]

or

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlgfL3XRjw
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Bro mafarizan, this is already classified as severe case of IAFM knocking. There could be 2 reasons as to why the noises are louder in certain cars with IAFM problems than others.

1.) The 1st few batches of IAFM, one of the valves is made with a longer edge (projectus?). Thus when this valve starts to turn, it hits the sides of the IAFM body & cause the sound.

2.) The owner may have ignored the IAFM noise until it got worst and louder then only recorded it. As I've experienced this myself, the IAFM noise gets louder & louder over time. Just because it's not loud enough doesn't mean it's not IAFM problem, it's just not severe enough yet. Mine when the sound was quite soft, I brought it to CoSE & they kept denying that it's IAFM problem. Even said that they've checked and there's no problem. The moment I got into the car & start it I already can hear the faint (tak tak tak tak) sound. Furious, I drove straight out of CoSE & to a SC near my place and have it diagnosed. They jacked up my car, & the mechanic went under to diagnose it while the engine is running. Once he hold the valve, the sound is gone as the plastic is not knocking the sides. When he let go of the valve, the noise came back instantly. The replacement of IAFM manifold also eliminated the noise altogether.

Explanation?
ngeo88
post Apr 14 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 14 2011, 10:47 AM)
Then can make my car into part time Disco ady mah.. hehe.. Im researching on how to design this kind of strobe light system and interior lighting..  flex.gif


Hmmm never thought of it.. kk will go ask him...  laugh.gif


Added on April 14, 2011, 11:03 amHmm this thread looks like just got upgraded with slotted and crossdrilled 12pot ceramic brakes and 1200degrees racing brake pads.. Totally stop ady..
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check this for the led light http://www.ledz.com.my/
manejist
post Apr 14 2011, 11:37 AM

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Hei guys,

Will The Be Much Different Cap-Ayam Extractor And Hotbits Extractor ?

If I Would Like To Change The Extractor Only Is It ok ? Or I Should Change A Extractor And A Bullet 1st?

*xandras* What your Exhaust Setup ?
jackyap84
post Apr 14 2011, 11:39 AM

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wow... another 10 pages to go... u guys really a spammer... wahahaha....
TSxandras
post Apr 14 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM)
i think that IAFM... sooner or later sure problem come out.... cause last time a malay technician tell me that.. barang plastic mana boleh tahan panas..
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Yes. Because it's plastic. Most of other car manufacturers are now using metal manifolds.

QUOTE(mafarizan @ Apr 14 2011, 11:30 AM)
Oh ya ka bro..... If proton technical people told that... maybe the tellow sticker one also have that problem lah....
But mine still ok till now.......
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By luck lah bro mafarizan smile.gif Urs is PE? or Persona with IAFM?

Furthermore, u do realise that all the videos that u posted or other users posted on youtube regarding IAFM problems are videos of SAGA BLM, rite? Saga BLM is the first batch of cars to use IAFM, & their problem is much more obvious. Our Persona's IAFM is slightly refined, but the problem still persists.

QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 14 2011, 11:31 AM)
u tell her that the road outside the house does not belong to her..
ask her how many square feet she buy..
at night go throw egg at her windscreen.
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Complain oni la to MPSJ. Tell them that her car parked on outside road also. Outside road not under her ownership. She buy house no free road, so by right it's illegal to park her car outside, and therefore she should kena warning, compound, clamp + tow. In fact everyone's car there should be towed away because they don't own the road. Then everyone in ur neighbourhood will hate her brows.gif

QUOTE(manejist @ Apr 14 2011, 11:37 AM)
Hei guys,

Will The Be Much Different Cap-Ayam Extractor And Hotbits Extractor ?

If I Would Like To Change The Extractor Only Is It ok ? Or I Should Change A Extractor And A Bullet 1st?

*xandras* What your Exhaust Setup ?
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Believe me manejist, u won't wanna try. laugh.gif

I mean, by luck u may get one set of extractor that works properly if u choose cap ayam. But I know I did not when I first got the cap ayam extractor. Switched back to hotbits.

Hotbits extractor - Some branded swirling bullet (dun remember what brand, never heard before) - Mid muffler cap ayam - RSR S-flow rear muffler.

This post has been edited by xandras: Apr 14 2011, 11:45 AM
mafarizan
post Apr 14 2011, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 11:36 AM)
Bro mafarizan, this is already classified as severe case of IAFM knocking. There could be 2 reasons as to why the noises are louder in certain cars with IAFM problems than others.

1.) The 1st few batches of IAFM, one of the valves is made with a longer edge (projectus?). Thus when this valve starts to turn, it hits the sides of the IAFM body & cause the sound.

2.) The owner may have ignored the IAFM noise until it got worst and louder then only recorded it. As I've experienced this myself, the IAFM noise gets louder & louder over time. Just because it's not loud enough doesn't mean it's not IAFM problem, it's just not severe enough yet. Mine when the sound was quite soft, I brought it to CoSE & they kept denying that it's IAFM problem. Even said that they've checked and there's no problem. The moment I got into the car & start it I already can hear the faint (tak tak tak tak) sound. Furious, I drove straight out of CoSE & to a SC near my place and have it diagnosed. They jacked up my car, & the mechanic went under to diagnose it while the engine is running. Once he hold the valve, the sound is gone as the plastic is not knocking the sides. When he let go of the valve, the noise came back instantly. The replacement of IAFM manifold also eliminated the noise altogether.

Explanation?
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Totally agreed with you bro..... the vendor also use the same method to trouble shoot the iafm system..... hold the valve and the sound gone....

but mine now got new sound tik tik tik intermitent ... are this is also came from IAFM maybe other things of IAFM part.. bcoz the valve problem has been solve by proton....
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post Apr 14 2011, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(mafarizan @ Apr 14 2011, 11:27 AM)
Maybe can try this:



or


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thnaks for sharing now i know the sound already.
TSxandras
post Apr 14 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(mafarizan @ Apr 14 2011, 11:48 AM)
Totally agreed with you bro..... the vendor also use the same method to trouble shoot the iafm system..... hold the valve and the sound gone....

but mine now got new sound tik tik tik intermitent ... are this is also came from IAFM maybe other things of IAFM part.. bcoz the valve problem has been solve by proton....
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It may not be caused by IAFM. I'm not there to hear the noise so I cannot simply diagnose it n tell u that it's IAFM noise. But what u can do is self diagnose it.

The noise will be slightly louder n more obvious in the morning during cold starts, and the frequency of the noise goes up as u step on the accelerator n goes down once u release it. Then it's IAFM problem. If u do not encounter this at all, it's possible that the tik tik noise came from ur timing system.

QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 14 2011, 11:50 AM)
thnaks for sharing now i know the sound already.
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Ngeo, do not blindly take these videos as guide because these are videos of saga blm with IAFM problems, not persona. The noise may be different slightly.
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post Apr 14 2011, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(mafarizan @ Apr 14 2011, 11:36 AM)
Your fc is same like me la bro.... but Im using autolite ....... only manage to get 270km for full tank.....  rclxub.gif
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Wah..so thirsty?> mine is iAFM model...(Before PE) bought 2010 ..still can get 400km ++
manejist
post Apr 14 2011, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 11:43 AM)
Yes. Because it's plastic. Most of other car manufacturers are now using metal manifolds.
By luck lah bro mafarizan  smile.gif Urs is PE? or Persona with IAFM?

Furthermore, u do realise that all the videos that u posted or other users posted on youtube regarding IAFM problems are videos of SAGA BLM, rite? Saga BLM is the first batch of cars to use IAFM, & their problem is much more obvious. Our Persona's IAFM is slightly refined, but the problem still persists.
Complain oni la to MPSJ. Tell them that her car parked on outside road also. Outside road not under her ownership. She buy house no free road, so by right it's illegal to park her car outside, and therefore she should kena warning, compound, clamp + tow. In fact everyone's car there should be towed away because they don't own the road. Then everyone in ur neighbourhood will hate her brows.gif
Believe me manejist, u won't wanna try. laugh.gif

I mean, by luck u may get one set of extractor that works properly if u choose cap ayam. But I know I did not when I first got the cap ayam extractor. Switched back to hotbits.

Hotbits extractor - Some branded swirling bullet (dun remember what brand, never heard before) - Mid muffler cap ayam - RSR S-flow rear muffler.
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thank for the informantion !

So I Can Change Extractor And Bullet 1st Follow By Mid Muffler And Rear Muffle Right ?


Added on April 14, 2011, 12:09 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 11:43 AM)
Yes. Because it's plastic. Most of other car manufacturers are now using metal manifolds.
By luck lah bro mafarizan  smile.gif Urs is PE? or Persona with IAFM?

Furthermore, u do realise that all the videos that u posted or other users posted on youtube regarding IAFM problems are videos of SAGA BLM, rite? Saga BLM is the first batch of cars to use IAFM, & their problem is much more obvious. Our Persona's IAFM is slightly refined, but the problem still persists.
Complain oni la to MPSJ. Tell them that her car parked on outside road also. Outside road not under her ownership. She buy house no free road, so by right it's illegal to park her car outside, and therefore she should kena warning, compound, clamp + tow. In fact everyone's car there should be towed away because they don't own the road. Then everyone in ur neighbourhood will hate her brows.gif
Believe me manejist, u won't wanna try. laugh.gif

I mean, by luck u may get one set of extractor that works properly if u choose cap ayam. But I know I did not when I first got the cap ayam extractor. Switched back to hotbits.

Hotbits extractor - Some branded swirling bullet (dun remember what brand, never heard before) - Mid muffler cap ayam - RSR S-flow rear muffler.
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thank for the informantion !

So I Can Change Extractor And Bullet 1st Follow By Mid Muffler And Rear Muffle Right ?

This post has been edited by manejist: Apr 14 2011, 12:09 PM
TSxandras
post Apr 14 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(manejist @ Apr 14 2011, 12:08 PM)
thank for the informantion !

So I Can Change Extractor And Bullet 1st Follow By Mid Muffler And Rear Muffle Right ?


Added on April 14, 2011, 12:09 pm
thank for the informantion !

So I Can Change Extractor And Bullet 1st Follow By Mid Muffler And Rear Muffle Right ?
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Yes. But performance wise I wouldn't know how would it be like as I've not tried that setup yet.

I've only tried:

Extractor -> Stock mid muffler -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Bullet -> Bullet -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Swirling bullet -> Mid muffler -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Swirling bullet -> Mid muffler -> RSR S-flow rear muffler.


Added on April 14, 2011, 12:16 pmAny1 here free for a TT?

This post has been edited by xandras: Apr 14 2011, 12:16 PM
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post Apr 14 2011, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 14 2011, 12:12 PM)
Yes. But performance wise I wouldn't know how would it be like as I've not tried that setup yet.

I've only tried:

Extractor -> Stock mid muffler -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Bullet -> Bullet -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Swirling bullet -> Mid muffler -> Stock rear muffler.

Extractor -> Swirling bullet -> Mid muffler -> RSR S-flow rear muffler.


Added on April 14, 2011, 12:16 pmAny1 here free for a TT?
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bila TT? and where first?

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Apr 14 2011, 12:23 PM)
bila TT? and where first?
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Anywhere convenient for u all la..
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post Apr 14 2011, 12:52 PM

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I just did my 1st service at Mutiara Damansara 3S Center yesterday. Come in at 3.00 pm bla bla bla....5.30pm done....

any review on this SC?

btw, as i started to complaint on d 2nd thing d SA cut my word n say "takut tak sempat je bang"....hahah....
maybe thats just their polite way of saying "malas lah aku nak buat, bukan kereta aku pon!" or maybe they really need at least 5 hours to check my complaints...hehe....

another thing is.....Syntium 800 is mineral or semi syn eh?

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