Try a 32AA bra. Or try a non-padded bra.

No lah, basically they're just saying "It's ok for ladies to dress sexy sexy and even zao guong, but it's NOT ok for you to drool at our sexay bodeh", and then say weird untruths like "leering is illegal!" And then when they're corrected with the fundamental liberties accorded by the constitution, then they will butthurt remove the post lor.

This post has been edited by spanker: Apr 21 2011, 05:23 PM

Which is why you shouldn't be making unfounded statements like "leering is illegal" because it is not. What is degrading to you may not be degrading to others. Unless you're an expert on sociology and morality, and in addition are a religious authority, you *MAY* be able to decide what is moral and what is not.

Even the subject of gambling and drinking is still in the gray area of morality, what makes you think that just because you don't like to be looked at because you dress sexy, will be considered immoral?

Aiyo... this is what I'm trying to point out. Don't simply say this is illegal that is illegal because you don't understand. You accuse me of taking part of the Constitution to support my "idea" (it is not idea, it is fact), but you yourself also only take part of the Penal Code to perpetuate an untruth (that leering and staring is illegal).

10.2(a) on the rights conferred by paragraph (a) of Clause (1),such restrictions as it deems necessary or expedient in the interest of the security of the Federation or any part thereof, friendly relations with other countries, public order or morality and restrictions designed to protect the privileges of Parliament or of any Legislative Assembly or to provide against contempt of court, defamation, or incitement to any offence;

1) The Penal Code (i.e Criminal procedure code) is not a law passed by the Parliament, it is common law enacted by the judiciary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Malaysia
2) Leering and staring in a prejorative is NOT immoral. It may be rude, but it is NOT immoral. And is definitely NOT a crime.
3) The Constitution overrides Common Laws, which is why Kartika was caned for knowingly consuming alcohol.

If you get punished because of an unconstitutional law in the Penal Code, it is because you had a crappy lawyer. This is why it is important that I inform readers about all these crazy myths that is perpetuated in a discriminatory manner.

http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/legal/gener...ning_order.html
PUTRAJAYA: A former bank manager convicted of misappropriating more than RM300,000 is now challenging the validity of the three strokes of rotan imposed on him on the grounds of gender discrimination.
Azlan Alias, who filed a motion in the Court of Appeal to review its own decision, said the enforcement of the punishment by caning should be set aside as it was contrary to the equality provision in the Federal Constitution.

Azlan, 49, said he was entitled to equal protection as Article 8 of the Constitution stated that except as expressly stated, there should be no discrimination against citizens on grounds of gender.

His counsel, Amer Hamah Arsahd, said Azlan must be accorded the same protection as that given to a woman under the supreme law of the land.

And I am truly sadden by the fact that I have to save these posts so I can repeat the same thing again because some groups of people in society are always in denial, and delete posts because they can't refute FACTS or they choose not to see it.


p.s. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying peeping is not illegal, but it is NOT illegal if you're in a public venue. Voyeurism is illegal.

This post has been edited by spanker: Apr 22 2011, 12:05 PM

That's exactly right. Rude is not the same as immoral. In fact, it is even more immoral to say that leering is a crime.

Harassment is another term that is WIDELY misunderstood, by M'sians particularly. In order for it to be harassment, you will need to tell that person to stop whatever they are doing TO YOU first, and it has to continually occur. One incident of staring does NOT count as harassment. And it is IMMORAL to perpetuate peeping at your cleavage as illegal just because you want to show it off, but only to people you want to show off to.

Aiyah, don't keep seeing things from your world view la. Rich people also don't asked to be robbed what, but they're still the targets of robbers.

I think if you were to scrutinize rape, you'll be very surprised at the findings.

Believe or not, many of the rape stats are WRONG because there are many "updated" feminists who twists facts just to make women look as if they're the victim. For instance, if you had consensual sex and regret it the next morning, it's called rape. And rape is the ONLY crime where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent, as proven in the 30 second rapist.

This post has been edited by spanker: Apr 25 2011, 05:28 PM

Yes, guys shouldn't stare too much, and girls shouldn't be thinking they're so righteous too much. Both sides also got fault. It's not only immoral, but also wrong, to solely put the blame on 1 party.

Actually, human nature is much more complex than that. Humans have good behaviors and bad behaviors. Blaming others is a bad behavior, in contrast, self reflection is good behavior. Which is why education is important to replace bad behavior with good behavior. Sometimes other bad behaviors prevent the possibility of good behaviors. For example, pride and/or denial, where even when you try to show right and wrong, it gets ignored (and sometimes deleted).

Yes, and the point of fashion is so that people will react and look at you. If you don't want people to look at you, whether in a good or bad way, don't make a such a bold fashion statement.