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Household Link House - TTDI Grove Kajang, Anyone manage to buy it?

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post Dec 25 2011, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(eugene jk @ Dec 25 2011, 06:24 PM)
anyone knows the Ellenia is in which phase?
http://www.iproperty.com.my/developments/2...orey_Link_Homes

price has been increased quite alot since march...
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I think it is phase 4....in my opinion, this is the best phase of house....being near to shop and farther away from prison
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post Dec 26 2011, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(eugene jk @ Dec 26 2011, 12:39 AM)
oic.. thanks... will pay a visit to shah alam office...
sales must b good there.... impressed with buyers keen to pay more than 400k dsl there... guess kajang is really coming up...


Added on December 26, 2011, 12:49 amjust checked their website, seems phase 4 is the last piece in Grove West....
i think the sequence is ph1 ph2 ph3 ph5 ph6, shoplot n ph4... kudos naza ttdi  notworthy.gif
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Newer project in Kajang all are more than 500k (referring for those with nicer facade, bigger development and Guarded)....I agree with you that it is not cheap anymore.....but, one thing for sure, there will be more development in Kajang as over the years, i think it is seriously lacking certain type of development, G&G property, modern commercial/retail area, etc.
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post Dec 30 2011, 07:23 AM

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i think the majority are Malays. Previously I understand from my fren that the shops are fully sold....someone release it?
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post Jan 16 2012, 01:04 PM

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apparently there are a few 2S shop available and some intermediate link houses available....


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post Feb 29 2012, 10:27 AM

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Where do you hear this? How come PKR is involved? Who in PKR?

The major developer didnt mentioned about such guidelines given
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post Feb 29 2012, 06:55 PM

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Wow. not easy to justify the premium of 700k+ for another level pplus facing the main road...with 700k+...

Any info if the 2S facing housing still available now?
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post Mar 1 2012, 10:08 AM

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Unless they really doing a real good job in the entire development, including serenity, landscaping, security and commercial. Otherwise not easy. But if they are able to create a good mix of all these, it will be one of the niche projects around that cater and offer certain environment that is missing or required.

In that case, it will become the place to be...as of now, the most notable township within Kajang are country height and Jade hill which targeting even higher end market ...of course NAdayu and Kj2 will also be competing directly on this sort of mid market segment.


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post Mar 2 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 2 2012, 09:40 AM)
i am speechless...kajang so far also got demand
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Depends which location you are benchmarking. If you benchmark against KLCC, many location within Shah ALam, USJ, Puchong, PutraHeights, Sungai Buluh are much farther than Kajang.

If you benchmark against PJ, yes, it will be a bit far.

Rawang new launch by Mahsing also selling close to 600k now .... I am sure Rawang is even farther.

Ultimately, every location has its own pull factor as not everyone work in PJ or KLCC.


we need to be more objective ...and look from different perspective, otherwise, we might be missing a lot of good opportunity. By the way, if you have been to jade hill or country height, you will know why some people want to stay there.
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post Mar 2 2012, 02:28 PM

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if you want more structure landscape...jade hill (quite oriental outlook), country heights is more for conventional high end enclave that one big of it is basically bungalow built by individuals.

TTDI Grove, KJ2 and Nadayu 92 are more for mid end market. Nadayu now has issue with accessibility as Tropicana Kajang is expect to be built on the other side, thus for now no clarity if Dijaya is going to open up the road to connect to Nadayu, thus, leaving Nadayu with the current access via the small tunnel.
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post Mar 5 2012, 04:32 PM

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I guess local business....no one knows....commercial is very tricky sometimes....it could be very hot on one side of the road but the shop on opposite could be very quiet. I think TTDI grove square is decent and has enough shoplot to form a small local business/retail area as it is surrounded by these decent development by Naza. If these shop lot areas are getting hot up, it may do the residential houses a lot more goods

Yup, Kajang Perdana is pretty quite, i guess it will continue to struggle (on the existing shop)..btw, there is another shoplot project in Kajang Perdana.....it called kajang walk (http://www.kajangwalk.com/)...
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:19 AM

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which phase is front/back the man made lake?



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post Apr 27 2012, 11:47 PM

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wah...serious...cannot be 943k lah
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post May 19 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(genbat2003 @ May 19 2012, 06:44 AM)
expensive and in future, really heavy jammed
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Can you share why you predict massive jam in the future ... how many years?
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post May 20 2012, 08:10 AM

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Thanks for sharing. Well, to be honest, from Kajang to KL if going via Cheras, for sure it will be jammed. Cheras area itself is already really congested in the morning. Seriously, no easy to find a place to stay if want to avoid traffic jam going to KL. FRom Jalan Ampang, Jelatek, Tun Razak. Genting klang, jalan parlimen, jalan bangsar, federal highway, etc all jammed during peak hours. Some highways offers better traffic flow, but you need to pay for it. To be honest, the better solution is use public transport if the option is available.

I agree the development of retail in Kajang has not been very very hot. Prima Suajana is kind of quite neighbourhood during the weekend. Well, this is common to many residential area per say. I guess, it require more residential development to pull in the mass and increase activities in the retails. Perhaps they need a concentrated hot spot for certain activities (like the pull factor of DPC).
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post May 21 2012, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Talbac @ May 21 2012, 09:55 AM)

Comparison

                  NAZA        - 711K
                                    - 2400 sq ft
                                    - Free MOT, SPA Legal fees
                                    - No free loan legal fees, stamp duties, misc
                                    - No G&G scheme (residents to form G&G, which I think is difficult)
                                    - No Fibre Optic - Copper line only
                                    - 2 Air-Con points only
                                    - No water-heater installed
                                    - Less than 0.5 acre Garden area for each phase
                                    - No facilities
                                    - Average Building Facade

              Mutiara Villa    - 846K
                                    - 3260 sq ft (860 sqft difference X RM250 per sq ft  = worth about 220K more than NAZA)
                                    - Free MOT, SPA legal fees 
                                    - Free loan legal fees, stamp duties, disbursements (worth about 20K more than NAZA)
                                    - G&G Concept (worth about 50K more than NAZA)  - sorry for ambuity,how do we value G&G?
                                    - Fibre Optic Installed (worth about say 30K more)
                                    - 6 Air-Con Points AND Duct installed (worth 3K)
                                    - Water-heater ready  (worth 25K)
                                    - 4.3 acres garden area ALONE FOR THIS PHASE (worth 50K more)
                                    - Rubber court for basketball, tennis, bbq area, yoga deck etc (worth 50K more)
                                    - Top-notch building facade (worth 30K more)

Comparing the values, if NAZA's 2-storey link house is 711K, Mutiara Villa's value should be (711+ 478K) = RM1.1M++ , but they are selling at 846K. Looking at the NAZA project, I can't help buy feel that Mutiara Villa is way undervalue at the moment. Recommendation to buy Mutiara Villa.

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Please correct me on the values, it is fairly ambiguous.
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Sort of agree that on overall basis, the 130k+ seem to be offering more good to potential buyer (taking away the location topic since both are quite close to each other).

Just to point out a few things:
- Loan Agreement and related cost will not be more than 15k (not 20k)
- G&G concept value is hard to justified. if more robbery or break in happening, then the G&G might be even more valuable.
- Fiber optic : This is Telecom Malaysia. Eventually, i dont think they will skip TTDI Grove and with the current unifi, the installation is free.
- TTDI Grove with no aircond points and piping ??
- Water heater ready (Solar type ? ) It would not be more than 15k including hot water piping to each bathroom.
- hard to justify building facade lah .... different people difference preference.
- Landscape (size) and facilities wise, MV is better.

I guess TTDI grove is also charging more on the brand and reputation of the developer. Somehow, it gives people certain assurance about the ability to complete project or so. In other words, if naza is offering what MV offering, then it might be 950k or so? Who knows.... : )
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post May 24 2012, 04:45 PM

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Hi Talbac, that is not the case about fiber optic cable. FYI, all unifi is connected via fiber.

Since the past, the obligation of providing (connecting) telephone cabling wihtin the house to the nearest terminal is the responbility of the developer. Then, it will be Telekom or the area fixed line provider like Maxis or Time to connect those to their exchange. With this setup, once they install DSL Equipment, they can provide DSL service (depends on the distance between your house and the DSL equipment, you will get up to several Mbps typically, if you are lucky you may get mroe than 10mbps).

With the revolution of fiber broadband, housing law had not been changed to force developer lay fiber. So, in many project, Developer still need to lay the copper cable within the house to the nearest terminal. no many developer choose to install fiber in the house to the nearest terminal (instead of copper or on top of copper), because it will cost more money and no significant value to house owner.

Why, because, when TM (or Maxis) for example, installed fiber to the neighbourhood...you will see those little green terminal box, then you can subscribe to unifi and TM is still offering free installation to connect your house to the green terminal box with fiber (unless your house is too big, then they might charge you a bit).

TM/Maxis is targeting new housing estate and especially those mid to high end, so i dont think it will not be available in grove for too long.

To be honest, even MV has got that fiber connecting between the house to the terminal, if TM/MAxis not coming in with the main trunk, you still cant connect to fiber broadband. This is how many old houses in KV are connected to fiber broadband service liek Unifi.

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post May 26 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(ajak25 @ May 26 2012, 05:17 PM)
Thats the reason Im not quite bothered even though TTDI Groves phases do not come with fibreoptics ready coz TM will do it anyway for free haha. But dunno when the free installation offer will last. After 2 years probably the unifi speed will increase even faster and hopefully TM will still provide the installation for free. Even if we need to pay for the installation, I think it will cost between 800 - 1k (price early unifi adopters needed to pay for installation b4 TM made it free).

About the 3-phase wiring, I thought all new landed property will come with 3-phase ready nowadays?  Anyone can clarify? I wud like to actually have the 3-phase wiring ready for my new house coz dun wanna do the rewiring later. Let say d developer does not provide the 3-phase, can we request it from them with our own expenses? But for Acacia, with its price tag, I think they should provide it for free
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Not really. TO be honest, single phase also can work pretty well, unless for bigger unit like semi-D and you are installing bigger aircond all over and turning them on pretty regular....

For this sort of price, i would expect 3-phase
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post Jun 4 2012, 03:04 PM

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JH is quite a niche area. Depends how you look at it actually, for link house, it is actually the cheapest house type in JH and that already about 900k in the subsales and this is much bigger with 2600 sqft of land size.

Setia Eco park offers similar amount of landscape (more than 30% infact). Seri pilmoor (more than 40%, summerglades @40%, symphony hill (35%)....This is excluding those with golf course....

But take note that sometimes, it really depends how they calculate it.
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:53 PM

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I think the price is just too steep. If this is pure strategy to push the unsold unit in the previous phases, then it might make sense, otherwise it is just simply testing the market to the extreme.
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Their quality is normally quite decent. Not perfect but definitely above average. You should get them to fix the problem quickly and that is a test on their commitment to support and service customer.

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