680K for 2-storey at TTDI also includes a Vietnamese wife, all immigration documentations and also the wedding right?

TTDI last phase is 22X70 all prebooked already for 680K. It is cheaper than Mutiara villa because the land area and built up is smaller. 2-storey only. Mutiara Villa is 3-storey and is gated and guarded (TTDI is not g&g). Also , the Mutiara Villa building and internal design is much more modern.

For better life for my family, I have chose to take up Mutiara Villa for 150K+ more.

Congratulation on your purchase of Prima Saujana for 190K 6-7years back ! It is an excellent buy looking back isn't it? I agree with you that going into KL from ANY direction will be jam, no hiding from it, if want to avoid jam, we can use MRT which will be located opposite Tesco.

I also agree with you that it is not as hype as Bangsar at the moment, however looking at the trend of development, the commercial centre is thriving and more established retail shops are coming in every now and then. First Standand Chartered came in, next McDonalds, then papa rich, and bank muamalak, then sports shops, music shops, al-jabbar retail etc etc. Of course these people are going to fill up the frontage first, those shops not fronting the road are also beginning to open. 99cents shop from Sg Chua has recently opened, so are a few other new venture shops. The trend is looking very promising really for the commercial centre of Prima Saujana.

711k for 2-storey at NAZA Groove - I think top up with another 100K+ or so and get Mutiara Villa better. Mutiara Villa still under previewing stage but already snapped up almost finishing already, faster than NAZA Groove despite all the advertising by NAZA, below is the reasons I feel make the difference.

Comparison

NAZA - 711K
- 2400 sq ft
- Free MOT, SPA Legal fees
- No free loan legal fees, stamp duties, misc
- No G&G scheme (residents to form G&G, which I think is difficult)
- No Fibre Optic - Copper line only
- 2 Air-Con points only
- No water-heater installed
- Less than 0.5 acre Garden area for each phase
- No facilities
- Average Building Facade

Mutiara Villa - 846K
- 3260 sq ft (860 sqft difference X RM250 per sq ft = worth about 220K more than NAZA)
- Free MOT, SPA legal fees
- Free loan legal fees, stamp duties, disbursements (worth about 20K more than NAZA)
- G&G Concept (worth about 50K more than NAZA) - sorry for ambuity,how do we value G&G?
- Fibre Optic Installed (worth about say 30K more)
- 6 Air-Con Points AND Duct installed (worth 3K)
- Water-heater ready (worth 25K)
- 4.3 acres garden area ALONE FOR THIS PHASE (worth 50K more)
- Rubber court for basketball, tennis, bbq area, yoga deck etc (worth 50K more)
- Top-notch building facade (worth 30K more)

Comparing the values, if NAZA's 2-storey link house is 711K, Mutiara Villa's value should be (711+ 478K) = RM1.1M++ , but they are selling at 846K. Looking at the NAZA project, I can't help buy feel that Mutiara Villa is way undervalue at the moment. Recommendation to buy Mutiara Villa.

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Please correct me on the values, it is fairly ambiguous.

This post has been edited by Talbac: May 21 2012, 10:06 AM

I have done a comparison between Nadayu VS Mutiara Villa, and NAZA VS Mutiara Villa, Jade Hill VS Mutiara Villa I try to do on either Jade Hill's forum or Mutiara Villa's forum

Thanks for the useful comments. After confirming with the lawyer, the bill for loan legal fees and disbursements alone turns out to be about 14k, you are correct on your assessment. Other expenses such MOT, stamp duties, SPA legal fees are paid by developer for both projects, both projects cancels out, so additional value for MV for miscellaneous expenses paid by developer is 14K only not 20K.

Fiber Optic :
Moving into the internet age, I can't help but think that installing Fibre-Optics should be a standard feature in every new development. After all, what more better chance to install it once and for all by the developer during construction stage, rather than digging up the copper lines and replacing it later. I could accept, in fact welcome, the upgrading from copper lines to fibre optics nevertheless in old areas such as PJ, KL. But in new housing area? A little foresight, new housing area should be installed with fibre optics straight away, and this done for Mutiara Villa is viewed by the internet savvy as a very innovative move by TLS Developer.3 Hurrays for TLS developer with foresight! Not only the residents not have to feel inferior having only to use Unifi from copper line, the roads leading the development would not need to be re-dig, and re-surface, as it often ending up patchy and uneven after completion. Valuing Mutiara Villa 30K more compared to NAZA just for alone Fibre-optic Unifi maybe ambiguous, after all, we all have slower options such as copper-line Unifi, WiMax and wireless broadband, but I am a dissatisfied user for those lesser options, perhaps due to having been pampered by the fibre-optics instantaneous speed offered in university while studying in the UK. How much faster? I could practically watch movies downloaded THE MOMENT after clicking on 'Load'. Emailing huge files is faster than ever. Would I pay 30K in live in such environment compared to none? – I would.

Malaysian Tele-communication companies are upping the landed broadband speed every year. With every increase in bandwidth and speed, the gap in speed between Fibre-Optics and Copper-line widens, since it is already offering a speed exceeding Copper-line limit. Replacing copper with Fibre-optics is expensive, in fact more expensive than laying one during construction,( for the same reason re-configuration of a house is more expensive than plan&building from start) and is currently done only sporadically in limited PJ, KL areas and areas of high density. The rational? - it is more profitable to offer to these area of high density so to breakeven from the costly laying of fibre optics. Singapore and many developed countries have already achieved close to 100% penetration for fibre-optic internet connections. Malaysia is progressing very very slowly, and perhaps finally realising it is a daunting task, re-divert to inferior alternative in trying to achieve 100% WiMAx broadband connection instead - see the WiMax license offered to P1, YTL, Redtone etc .(cheaper, slower and less reliable option but wireless will NEVER beat landed in terms of quality). Currently our country has less than 35% WiMax penetration, and fibre-optic is less than 5%. And Mutiara Villa is designed from start to be the elite and modern, at least in terms of internet connection. Of course they have plans for NAZA’s housing area. In fact there will be a fibre-optics connection plan for every house in the country, after all, wouldn't it sound un-political for tele-communication companies to say they are only willing to connect to profitable areas, and also that they don't have the billions to do so?

Sorry for the lengthy article,
Summary :
Mutiara Villa- Fibre Optic ready.
NAZA - Copper line, may not have fibre optic before 2030. (I hate summaries and setting year/dates as it lacks accuracy, why not read the above)

Recommendation to buy Mutiara Villa.

This post has been edited by Talbac: May 23 2012, 05:35 PM

I think Saam0212 is not referring to the earthwork by TLS but the Sunway Quarry on the right side of NAZA. My friend at Jelok Impian said Sunway are still running the Quarry full-fledged.

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Added on May 27, 2012, 11:00 amCongratulations for having fibre optics at Twin Palm!

Hindsight biase theory - Things that are left to chances always looked more likely to happen later after it has happened.

Many places in Cheras/Kajang are still not installed with fibre optics, that Twin Palm despite being located in the less-densed area is being connected to fibre optics looks like an initiation by Lum Chang, the developer of Twin Palm to upgrade the township.



This post has been edited by Talbac: May 27 2012, 11:00 AM

gosh! I saw the banner up at the roadside 'IRIS' so I decided to call out of curiousity. The banners says 2769sq ft, 3storey. As I bought a unit of Mutiara Villa also 3storey, 3260 sqft, I was half hoping the prices of 'IRIS' goes through the roof of course.

I called, the price was 940K! for 2700++ sq ft! About RM330/ sq ft! I further asked if IRIS is any better finishing compared to Acacia or previous phases, NAZA said all the same concept, same finishing except square feet is bigger. No 3phase wiring, no home alarm, no hot water system... all the same.

Considering Mutiara Villa is still available for 846K for 3260 sq ft, on top of bigger land plot of 26X70, is there a big gap of price difference to be explained? How is the response of IRIS does anyone know? Thanks

I feel NAZA's pricing is plain expensive, way too expensive. When I said to the Sales Person could you justified this price for IRIS, the person shrugged, hesitated, and then mumbled something like 'well....the concept...design...we are NAZA you know.......'. It was as seem NAZA's representative themselve couldn't accept their own pricing. 938K for 2700sq ft, on 22X70 land. Normal house (now upgrade to 3-phase).

Maybe like you say, it is to make previous phase look cheap and sell the previous phase.

This post has been edited by Talbac: Jul 2 2012, 03:59 PM