I need to decide within this week.
My current ride is Myvi, and i need good fuel consumption car and big also most important AUTO as always stuck at road during peak hours. U know how selangor and kl road nowdays.
Im heavy traveler,1 day 100-200km

My 2 bosses did ask me go for J, which cheaper, but for me its kinda kosong for me. They said i can add on all the missing accessories later on if got enough money,which mean i have to customize. Do really worth it?

J only have 1 airbag, Steel Rim
no sunvisor


E and G specs differences
6-7k
-15" rim
-leather instead of fabric beige.
-Built in cd player with 6spkrs.
-rear disk
-nicer interior perhaps?
-door sun visor
-anything else i missed?

budget? i can afford G specs, but after my boss did advice me to go for J specs. He said let ppl say u kiasu,but u wont lost much in future.


p/s im used the searcg button but cant find exact thread like this in past 7months did i searched hard enough?

Vios good in FC.... Another victim of marketing gimmick.....

why do you have to choose if you have the budget? go for highest spec la.

j only retard buy.

ya help me to figure out

i dont want to regret in future

It is a regret when you buy Vios in the first place.....

why only vios? there are a lot of better cars within this price range.

Again, i need a sedan car which has good fuel consumption like vios and have auto tansmision.
budget 90k below. any other car u suggest?

you have made a great choice to take a Vios.

Whichever varioation you take, rest assured you have the excellent quality, reliability, service that toyota provides.

You won't go wrong with either variations, but I will recoomend the TRD.

ok my requirement.

1. auto
2.good fuel consumption.
3. sedan
4. cheap to maintain
5. not a problematic car
6. good resale value

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Added on March 28, 2011, 10:56 am trd? cant afford bro + i found TRD specs are overprice



This post has been edited by alieamin: Mar 28 2011, 10:56 AM

Define good Fc. For me, anything lesser than what my Wira did, it is bad.... My Wira is doing 13-15km/l city drives most of the time but Vios only 10-12km/l.... So is still good FC?

J spec not worth, get E spec la.

but then,. all vios not worth, buy city.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Mar 28 2011, 10:57 AM

Hi there,I would like to suggest u take e spec if affordable

And I am a Toyota sales advisor at kl area,
If u wish to get a good offer,pls pm or msg me for further discussion^^

LMAO, still got ppl buy vios? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get a forte la!

you will lose alot more in future? why i say so? After 5 year those who look for 2nd hand cars will do survey on the same price range. forte, city, vios. Most ppl at this time will get FORTE. Best bang for bucks. Mean in return it will have higher resale value.

toyota has best resale value.

I don't know about the new version of the VIOS
But the 1st gen VIOS that I have in my house really does have good FC

TS, if you can afford the highest specs, just go for it. In the end, it is your own hard earn money

Why suddenly Forte comes out?

Here comes vtec fanbois.

wei bro Alie, you sure ker VIOS tuh? Boss cina you kasi pay raise rm1k ker? haha. Anyway, i seriously think VIOS is not worth the money too.

Never consider of Nissan Latio? It's damn nice interior though exterior is abit of out but to me still better than Dugong.

whats wrong with the myvi? not big enough?

i love vtec, but too sad out of budget
old EG EK seems overprice.

no la.. they said its time to upgrade. Most of worker here use toyota. Im left behind them
my boss know i can afford it but then drag me in to dilemma

i do have own house
i do have savings at asb..starting 5k only
extra savings rm10k (reserve untuk kahwin bro )

Latio? the fc is good? thats my main criteria tough choices nowdays.

thinking to get insight, but i tak mampu

no la..my myvi manual, i need auto+Good fc car

This post has been edited by alieamin: Mar 28 2011, 12:46 PM

G is good if you not planning to modified your car =)

how about a ford fiesta or mazda 2?

The way this thread is going.... two words

veritable minefield

lol.... funny to see how all this thread will end up... we haven't see inspira fans here... got nissan latio, honda city, forte... still waiting for inspira...

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Added on March 28, 2011, 12:36 pmoh... ford fiesta and mazda 2 also in dy...

This post has been edited by yeowa: Mar 28 2011, 12:36 PM

They are thataway!

*points at the 'Buy a 2nd hand civic 2.0 or new proton inspira?' thread*

if J take manual la
then put bodykits would be nice though

TS, from your options, I would go for Vios G.

But if it was me, (for that price range) I would get the Ford Fiesta 1.6 Sport. It comes wit MUCH MORE goodies and also it has 3 years free maintenance. (http://www.ford.net.my/esp.pdf)

Since you mentioned that you want a sedan with (confirmed) good resale value, then I guess Vios G it is.

This post has been edited by teelim: Mar 28 2011, 12:44 PM

How about if you take a look at ford fiesta sedan too. Looks slightly better than the dugong in my opinion

Who's doing 700-800km full tank with vios? Sure can ma? I m doubtful unless u doing 80km/hr all day long.
500km per tank sounds more reasonable.

if your mindset already set to take Vios then go for it, pamper urself abit get a G spec. IMO, J or TRD spec is just not worth it.

totally agree!

IMO, if want to get J spec, might as well get Saga BLM. Cheaper somemore.

for TRD spec, I think City E more worth it. A little cheaper, and pay for extras, not bodykit (which is quite ugly and somemore can just get it at a lower price from accessory shops)

As requested, let me be the bad guy, haha.... See how many fellows will come.....
Inspira are no good..... In terms of features/price.....

will re consider
FC is main target. Followed by price <90k and durability
ok got it, thanks bro for ur opinion

If FC is your main concern, then I think you would not be disappointed with the Fiesta. It has a quoted FC of 5.9L/100km (I think it has much to do with the 6speed GB... Vios only 4speed)

http://www.ford.net.my/fiesta/index.asp

also, I think Toyotas and Hondas are way over priced and overrated.

This post has been edited by teelim: Mar 28 2011, 01:02 PM

BTW, repairing a failed Vios engine can cost rm10k.... Do consider this.... But then this will only happens once a blue moon.....
As for the Ford, the published spec are kinda misleading, 5.9l/100km are impressive, but under what condition?

ok,now im exploring fiesta as i heard many said this fiesta full with fun.
im wondering sedan or sport..
locating nearest showroom to test drive

maybe 50% city 50% highway ?

too expensive.

there are other better model cars like what the other people say.

fiesta, mazda 2 are better choices.....

M2 i dont like the design, now considering fiesta.

Maybe ppl out there still dont know what fiesta can provide, just like me....not much time to read those reviews.

old uncle apek(my boss) only know the goodness of vios only gua

Mazda2 was a good choice.... until the Fiesta came along.

I personally don't see any aspect where the Mazda2 is better.

Well, frankly, Toyota and Honda has been dominating the auto market for quite some time... Few years back, they may can make our eyes round and wow.... But then for now, with Forte, Ford hits the roads with the new 6-speed gears, I can say they are better.
Suggest that, spend some time and test drive all the cars you shortlisted... If you wantto change from Myvi to Vios, better keep the Myvi....

Don't be fooled by paper facts, especially on the mileage claims. Best to get the real world figures from people who have experience with them. Happened to me when I bought my car, paper spec boasted 6.0L/100km but never once have I ever managed to reach that figure over a 50km route, even driving constantly at 70-80km/hr.

^X2..... Paper spec means nothing, but can use it for reference....
Actually our driving style matters.....

well to be honest i only trust japan's car maker

well i just arranged and make an appointment to test drive fiesta this weekends.
The myvi i wont sell as left 20k for the repayment.
My brother will continue to pay for the myvi.

Same boat with you on this, but then is time to move on..... Change taste, haha.....

any car with engine defects will require massive amount of $$ to repair. Because vios has been around for years, parts are abundent.

To me, vios's consumption is good if not better in both city and highway. Experience riding in my friends car. The only down side is the ride and the cars insulation.

TS, go for G spec as u can afford it already.

Well, if you can get foreman to overhaul it for you, the cost will be low... But when no foremen willing to do your car and you send it back to SC, they will just change the whole block, which really cost a bomb.....

Toyota and Honda WILL respond and come back somewhat, if nothing else to regain or protect market share

They just happen to have spent more money in research and development on electric and hybrid technology, instead on stuff like 6-speed auto transmissions.

Just happens that it coincided with the accendancy of the Korean makes and Ford regionally.

As for subjective stuff like FC, there are numerous quasi-government and approved public linked websites in the US, Australia and Europe giving numbers for urban, highway and average consumption for most cars. These are neutral and independent bodies, so they are at least better than claimed/hyped numbers in car brochures. Make be worth your while looking at them.

dont wan to get forte? high spec got side curtain air bag for ur own safety..

for all 1 to 6, the only answer will be, TOYOTA VIOS

and i recommend you to get e spec, now g spec comes with leather seat, not prefer. malaysia is too hot to handle a leather seat

i beg to differ. most of the time on city driving, my vios will clock varies from 14-16km/l, base on my multi info display. where do you get your statistic?

go ahead an buy the best selling foreign car in malaysia no worries at all

Am waiting for 6-speed Camry...... US already got.....
Cannot deny that, FC are subjective....

That's only for 2.0SX, which is ~rm100k..... Spending ~rm100k for Japs and Korean cars are not that wise, sometimes.....

the car less than 100k la..

Hi Bro,

Just read ur requirements, just wonder y you not consider Proton Inspira? i think most of the major parts oso frm Jpn, the price is within ur budget and its a C segment car too....bigger then the City, Vios, Forte,...etc..just get the Auto 1.8. Myself is driving New Honda City, fuel consumption is ok ok la...not too bad.. at the end oso is ur choice...is ur hard earning $$

And the 6-speed auto Accord.

I wasn't saying that Toyota and Honda ignored 6-speed autos completely. I meant they are mostly catching up with other makes after having spent more effort on electric/hybrid technology. Also read somewhere that the Japanese implementations may be targetted at the mid- to upper-end of the market - i.e. C-segments and up, so whilst you may start seeing 6-speed autos in Altises, Camrys, Civics and Accords sooner or later, the B-segment City and Vios will probably be left out. I think the argument/justification was that small, light compact cars don't really benefit as much from 6-speeds, similar to the argument from some European makes that small, light compacts don't need rear disc brakes.

This post has been edited by tritonite: Mar 28 2011, 01:46 PM

TS,
Personally both J n TRD looks more of rip off versions. So between E n G, its E for me as d extra stuff in G is more cosmetic than practicality (although leather is a gd choice if u got a young kid but minus d maintenance to regularly wax it).

If ur travel is 50% city driving, d Vios would still get my vote. If u travel more on open roads, the Fiesta feels better or for a class above d Forte n City is gd for handling. Reason i'm sayin tis is coz altough u hv extra ratios, u're unlikely to reach d top 2 in traffic.

Haha your boss pandai la,drag you in buying Vios then you are tight, have to pay back monthly with this you have to rethink when you wanna leave the company. HAHAHA.

Anyway agree with others. IMO it's better to get Mazda 2 or Fiesta. As for Latio, you really have to sit inside and compare! the FC also ok la just like VIOS, my girl is driving her vios and the sister owns a Latio after sitting in both of them, ish the Latio is really great! silent, DAMN spacious, enjoyable driving it.

But for 700 -800km for full tank quite impossible la. unless you drive 90 km/h on highway then maybe... i still doubt, haha. Even HONDA IDSI cannot archive that sial!

OI KAHWIN dulu la baru beli kereta! Amoi you lari kang baru tau. haha btw, 10k only? Enough ker?

Haha, I know that, but it is quite close... If you mod something, it will touch rm100k...

Just try the 1.8CVT on up hill... Then try to overtake a lorry.... Don't use the sport mode....

I never say you so.... But then is our local H and T ignore us.....

well, toyota and honda do have some exciting models, but, well, we're too small for that. altis and vios it is . toyota matrix is cool too.

Not J, Not E and not G. Get the S.

Locally, Honda and Toyota make the most of their sales from Citys and Vioses, which are in approximately the same price segment as the Fiesta, Inspira and Forte. And with the new Avante coming soon as well, I really don't think they want their market share eroding too much.

These are indeed exciting times with the number of viable options out there for car buyers locally.

I agree. I think we get pretty lousy specced cars in M'sia and Honda and Toyota have to nerve to price it so high.

For now, I think Forte will be the best bang for buck..... Just the features alone are something that can open our eyes....
For the T and H, they are still enjoying their sales.... Because the interest for them are still there... Too many blind supportors out there....

That's the issue right there.

You see? I personally don't have anything against Toyotas and Hondas, the way some of their supporters do against other makes.

Given their track record, I would gladly opt for a 4-speed 1.5L Vios over a 6-speed 1.6L Forte or Fiesta... IF it was say RM8-10k cheaper. But as it stands, I don't see the wisdom in paying that much extra just for the brand.

those buy vios one, just go ahead and buy la. no need to think twice. its like buiying myvi. no need to think one.

sure no regrets one. toyota.

korean car, french car, german car, all maintenance expensive la. driving pleasure? who wanna pek corner everyday right?

we just wanna drive point a to point b, pump angin, pour petrol, and pay service center only. for this, vios is the best. and when you come out, everyone knows you made it. wei, he's driving a toyota, dahsyat....

rm8-10k..... You must be joking man.... If it is cheaper by rm20k, I may consider..... Agree that nothing wrong with them, their after sales service are quite good....

the only problem with toyota

= low spec(relatively), boring design(relatively) ^^

You fail to consider the 'climate' of the Malaysian auto industry. If the Vios was RM20k cheaper, Proton and Perodua will probably .

So realistically....

^Yup, that's the problem.... Because Vios is a low end car..... Which on par with Myvi.....

fuuu... this has somewhat become a Toyota/Honda bashing thread.

and it just got started ^^

thats why i said, wanna buy vios, no need to ask one, just go and get one, salesman can advise you which spec to take, no need come to forum

Well, go to Toyota showroom, will the SA tells you Vios not good?

no la, just go there to ask which spec to take ^^

mostly telling u to take TRD la, good suspension, good cornering ma, lol.

TRD tau? kaka


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if you look rich, then they will tell, vios not ngam you la, altis or camry la. vios shitty la, since you so fat,how to fit in? ( kidding ^^ )

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Mar 28 2011, 02:33 PM

True True...agree with you bro..

Anyway... @TS

You started the thread asking which version of the Vios you should get.

Alternative suggestions have been provided, and you have said that you will consider the Fiesta as well now. Good for you keeping an open mind.

But should you decide on the Vios after all, just avoid the minefields that are the rabid pro- and anti-Toyota sentiments, and you should be fine making an informed decision. Getting a Vios will not be a 'wrong decision'.



This post has been edited by tritonite: Mar 28 2011, 02:34 PM

your money, your choice ^^

why do u need a vios while u already own a myvi?

coz its a toyota? lol

Yes, because it is Toyota....

City is the best choice. I don't like the meter panel on vios, also too small, even small than myvii

TS,

Just a thought, if FC is your main concern and since you travel such a long distance everyday, have you considered the Honda Insight.

It may be more expensive at the start (RM98k), but think of the amount you can save on petrol.

though the resale value and the durability of the Insight is still a big "?"

All three variants are almost the same in terms of FC, they only differ in the extra features like bodykit, safety etc.

If cost is not your concern, go for the highest end. If it is, then get the J version.

Inspira? hell no
same specs with lancer,copy cat cheaper 15-20k than ori MIT, nononono...
if inspira start with 55k then i will go for it.
Why i say so? Its a proton car, why still want to apply 100% tax to inspira. It should sell below 60k.

what a gov

i wont pick TRD, overprice to me.
ya with malaysia's weather,leather will melt in ur car unless u have good tinted glasses.

Now im considering forte or fiesta.

Im scared with korean car,especially the spare parts and so on.

yala..what a bad boss
Latio dont suit me i think...more to uncle car
Fiesta sport design is nice compared with mazda 2. I need to know more about these both car's specs first,especially the gearbox.

Mazda ok ka? takut nanti in future i need to fork up thousand bucks just to maintain it


p/s amoi sudah kena ikat i dont like to spend so much on wedding ceremony tak popular la bro

S no more, replaced with TRD. no way for TRD

i trust 50% only on salesman,i meet many of salesman,so far non of them provide 100% true facts
i know, but i need to know also, here we have tons of pros/sifu

oh ya forgot that myvi has toyota DNA on it
because it was suggested by my boss.
im a good listener

at first thinking to get insight, but dont think i can afford to pay rm1k monthly. After done calculation only manage to spend 900 for monthly repayment/

the insight, rm100 extra can cover back by fuel saving ^^ and resale value ^^

sure ka about hybrid resale value?

regardless how many ppl hate the vios, it is arguably a good car. fuss free, easy to maintain and good fc.

if ppl say resale value will be the same after 5 years.. dont believe la.. do ur own calculation and you will know it.

only get the J spec if you want a manual. for auto, get at least the E spec.

since you have narrowed down your choice, then buy la.. end of story.

BUT, if you want something different, then you may look at other options (city, forte, inspira, fiesta, etc).

+1

TS if FC is ur main target...then viva ftw...

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Added on March 28, 2011, 4:24 pmare u able to pay for the battery..RMless then 10K if goes corrupt..? if yes ...choose hybrid!

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Added on March 28, 2011, 4:27 pmTS...since u said u save money for ur future wedding stuffs...why not save more money for a car...to buy a very good car...which u can use it as ur wedding car....and NO NEED to rent those nice expensive cars during ur wedding time....you will be proud if ur wedding car its ur own car maah.....just an advice for u...

This post has been edited by krk24: Mar 28 2011, 04:27 PM

my dream wedding car will be a whole row of same car.... if kancil, all kancil.....
wat car oso can 1... tak semestinyer exp car

if my fridge i put H badge on it, it will be durable, with vtec, good after sales service, and good resale value, no joke.

unless its a slanted H, then its different.

"upgrade" from Myvi to Viva? lol

This post has been edited by teelim: Mar 28 2011, 04:54 PM

Ts vios j is a very very good simple fuss free car. Cheap to maintain, can go long distance without problems, seriously super fuel efficient for that category, great resale value. You might think its an empty can but once u sit inside , it is a diff story.

You see, human beings associate good looks with good performance and ugly looks with poor performance.

I wouldnt say the vios is ugly, take
A look at peugeot207 , now that is
Hideous.

Srsly TS for a no frills car, just take the vios
J auto. You wont regret.but i am sure u will regretifu take the hyped up forte or pug 207.

I lol-ed at this comment, and somewhat agree with it.

however, since TS drives sooooo much, the potential saving from petrol can also cover the potential "loss" if the resale value is low (lower resale value than say, vios or city)

i never like vios J..looks veli "cheap"..especially the rim cap..omg!!

i rather save abit n get vios E

Mind to elaborate the bold sentence. I will regret if choose that 2 car? or other korean car?

Go for the G.

The interior quality difference is much evident. Dont get J, paying so much for that feel.... like buying budget car again. If then better stick wif Myvi.

my fridge put a prancing horse, i wonder why all the food inside spoiled........oh, i forgot everything the fridge does is faster, faster cool, faster makan electricity, faster damage the parts and eventually engine got so hot the food faster spoil......sorry, out of topic, but this comment really is funny.