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post Mar 27 2011, 05:06 PM, updated 15y ago

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hi..aku nak bertanya pendapat semua...contohla kalau aku berminat nak membuka cafe/restoran...boleh tak aku buat loan?atau ada mana2 badan berkaitan yang boleh bantu aku untuk membuka cafe?sebab aku still student dan akan habis tahunnih..so bercadang nak start tahun depan...aku xda slip gaji...so mcm mana?
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:10 PM

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Cari agensi kerajaan.
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:12 PM

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pergi agensi kerajaan x pun bank.

kalau nak bukak restauran biasanya 30k dah bleh dpt lot besar.
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Mar 27 2011, 05:10 PM)
Cari agensi kerajaan.
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QUOTE(kyuukokunoten @ Mar 27 2011, 05:12 PM)
pergi agensi kerajaan x pun bank.

kalau nak bukak restauran biasanya 30k dah bleh dpt lot besar.
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agensi kerajaan mcm mana contohnya?
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:24 PM

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post Mar 27 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:22 PM)
agensi kerajaan mcm  mana contohnya?
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SMIDEC / SME
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:31 PM

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Don't forget programmes like Nescafe Kickstart or HSBC Young Entrepreneur Award etc.

Even if you don't win, but just get into finals, you'll get free advertisement for yourself.
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:06 PM)
hi..aku nak bertanya pendapat semua...contohla kalau aku berminat nak membuka cafe/restoran...boleh tak aku buat loan?atau ada mana2 badan berkaitan yang boleh bantu aku untuk membuka cafe?sebab aku still student dan akan habis tahunnih..so bercadang nak start tahun depan...aku xda slip gaji...so mcm mana?
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Go work for someone first (at least a few months) and learn about the restaurant/cafe business. Slowly build up your experience and capital. You need the experience more than the money. Not easy running this type of business... many things you need to know, local regulations, how to manage people, how to attract customers, purchase daily food stock most of the time very early in the morning, need to clean-up everyday, need to wipe table with soapy water to prevent flies, competition in your area (they will check you out and some people don't play nice), etc.

So you takde modal dan takde experience? Apa jenis cafe atau restoran mahu buka?
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:33 PM

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mara boleh jgk kan?
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 27 2011, 05:24 PM)
SMIDEC / SME
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mara?kalau dari segi loan?mcmmana syarat2 dia bagi?
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Mar 27 2011, 05:32 PM)
Go work for someone first (at least a few months) and learn about the restaurant/cafe business. Slowly build up your experience and capital. You need the experience more than the money. Not easy running this type of business... many things you need to know, local regulations, how to manage people, how to attract customers, purchase daily food stock most of the time very early in the morning, need to clean-up everyday, need to wipe table with soapy water to prevent flies, competition in your area (they will check you out and some people don't play nice), etc.

So you takde modal dan takde experience? Apa jenis cafe atau restoran mahu buka?
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experience?hampir 2 tahun jugak ada experience kerja dekat cafe,before this pernah buat small business,hp & computer,clothing,car sparepart,shisha....i nak buka open air punya restaurant mcm rasta ttdi...tapi mix dgn bar style

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post Mar 27 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:33 PM)
mara?kalau dari segi loan?mcmmana syarat2 dia bagi?
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not sure, tapi kawan aku dapat loan from SME/SMIDEC


http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Relevant%20T...urBusiness.aspx
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 27 2011, 05:39 PM)
not sure, tapi kawan aku dapat loan from SME/SMIDEC
http://www.malaysia.gov.my/EN/Relevant%20T...urBusiness.aspx
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criter lah skit mcm mana kawan kau start2 dulu? blush.gif
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:41 PM)
criter lah skit mcm mana kawan kau start2 dulu? blush.gif
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aiseh man it was 2 years ago and hes just a colleague back then.. tarak contact anymore
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post Mar 27 2011, 05:45 PM

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ts similar problem with my cousin
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 27 2011, 05:43 PM)
aiseh man it was 2 years ago and hes just a colleague back then.. tarak contact anymore
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ok thx for the link smile.gif
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post Mar 27 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:36 PM)
experience?hampir 2 tahun jugak ada experience kerja dekat cafe,before this pernah buat small business,hp & computer,clothing,car sparepart,shisha....i nak buka open air punya restaurant mcm rasta ttdi...tapi mix dgn bar style
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Kau ada handle account tak dalam 2 tahun tu? Aku pernah bagi modal sikit pada 2 orang kawan, satu berjaya walaupun tak pandai masak tapi manage bagus. Satu lagi lingkup sebab walaupun pandai masak tapi tak pandai uruskan modal dan nak besarkan perniagaan cepat2.

Tapi sebab kau tak malu bertanya aku rasa kau boleh maju. Family members aku ada banyak business (kontraktor, kedai makan, printing, ternakan lembu, home stay, ladang kelapa sawit, jual burger 4-5 gerai, kedai jahit, kedai komputer, etc). Semuanya mula kecil-kecilan dan tak ada minta loan bank. Cuma pinjam sesama kawan, keluarga dan ada yang muka tak malu (kalau tak tanya tak tahu kan?) pinjam dengan businessman yang dah berjaya (ada yang pinjamkan, ada yang nak share dalam company). Dah cuba tanya keluarga dan kawan2?

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post Mar 27 2011, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Mar 27 2011, 06:07 PM)
Kau ada handle account tak dalam 2 tahun tu? Aku pernah bagi modal sikit pada 2 orang kawan, satu berjaya walaupun tak pandai masak tapi manage bagus. Satu lagi lingkup sebab walaupun pandai masak tapi tak pandai uruskan modal dan nak besarkan perniagaan cepat2. 

Tapi sebab kau tak malu bertanya aku rasa kau boleh maju. Family members aku ada banyak business (kontraktor, kedai makan, printing, ternakan lembu, home stay, ladang kelapa sawit, jual burger 4-5 gerai, kedai jahit, kedai komputer, etc). Semuanya mula kecil-kecilan dan tak ada minta loan bank. Cuma pinjam sesama kawan, keluarga dan ada yang muka tak malu (kalau tak tanya tak tahu kan?) pinjam dengan businessman yang dah berjaya (ada yang pinjamkan, ada yang nak share dalam company). Dah cuba tanya keluarga dan kawan2?
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humm..kalau boleh aku xnak minta duit dari family n kawan2,lagipun parents aku still ada tanggungan dengan adik2 aku,so aku tak nak menyusahkan parents..sebab aku nk try survive business sendiri..dari belasan tahun aku dah niat nak berniaga sendiri sebab aku xsuka kerja makan gaji/office..dan aku enjoy bila berniaga..xkisah niaga apa2pun..
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post Mar 27 2011, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Mar 27 2011, 06:07 PM)
Kau ada handle account tak dalam 2 tahun tu? Aku pernah bagi modal sikit pada 2 orang kawan, satu berjaya walaupun tak pandai masak tapi manage bagus. Satu lagi lingkup sebab walaupun pandai masak tapi tak pandai uruskan modal dan nak besarkan perniagaan cepat2. 

Tapi sebab kau tak malu bertanya aku rasa kau boleh maju. Family members aku ada banyak business (kontraktor, kedai makan, printing, ternakan lembu, home stay, ladang kelapa sawit, jual burger 4-5 gerai, kedai jahit, kedai komputer, etc). Semuanya mula kecil-kecilan dan tak ada minta loan bank. Cuma pinjam sesama kawan, keluarga dan ada yang muka tak malu (kalau tak tanya tak tahu kan?) pinjam dengan businessman yang dah berjaya (ada yang pinjamkan, ada yang nak share dalam company). Dah cuba tanya keluarga dan kawan2?
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pasal handle account tu xdalah..kerja2 bahagian dapur cafe adalah...simpan kira-kira ni aku sudi belajar kalau ada org nak ajar..lagipun pengalaman aku masa berniaga kecil-kecilan tu da ada sikit..
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 06:19 PM)
humm..kalau boleh aku xnak minta duit dari family n kawan2,lagipun parents aku still ada tanggungan dengan adik2 aku,so aku tak nak menyusahkan parents..sebab aku nk try survive business sendiri..dari belasan tahun aku dah niat nak berniaga sendiri sebab aku xsuka kerja makan gaji/office..dan aku enjoy bila berniaga..xkisah niaga apa2pun..
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sorry takda input sebab takda knowledge dalam loan-loan.

apa-apa pun, business sendiri jugak best. good luck.
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post Mar 27 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Mar 27 2011, 06:29 PM)
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sorry takda input sebab takda knowledge dalam loan-loan.

apa-apa pun, business sendiri jugak best. good luck.
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xapa..hehehe..yup..business best..thanks bro biggrin.gif
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perhaps maybe ur parents need to be guarantor for ur loan............why not approach Bank Rakyat or Bank Agro for this...........
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bump for more feedback.
goodluck ts.. :grin:
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post Mar 27 2011, 11:52 PM

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nak tak nak kena ada modal jugak sikit
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:06 PM)
hi..aku nak bertanya pendapat semua...contohla kalau aku berminat nak membuka cafe/restoran...boleh tak aku buat loan?atau ada mana2 badan berkaitan yang boleh bantu aku untuk membuka cafe?sebab aku still student dan akan habis tahunnih..so bercadang nak start tahun depan...aku xda slip gaji...so mcm mana?
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 27 2011, 05:06 PM)
hi..aku nak bertanya pendapat semua...contohla kalau aku berminat nak membuka cafe/restoran...boleh tak aku buat loan?atau ada mana2 badan berkaitan yang boleh bantu aku untuk membuka cafe?sebab aku still student dan akan habis tahunnih..so bercadang nak start tahun depan...aku xda slip gaji...so mcm mana?
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oh kau nak bukak kafe? aku nak jadik pengimport barang komputer. brows.gif tapikan ikut pengalaman aku.insyallah minggu ni atau depan sampai.kita sekapal bro-dua2 takde modal pastu dua2 still new dalam bussiness. notworthy.gif

1)TEKUN-Susah nak @#$$%% ada ke patut modal starter pada orang nak jual kuih kat rumah? (ni kes ramai orang pinjam tak bayar balik)

2)Koperasi-Ni kena join dulu.ada yuran ada bla bla bla.

3)SME bank-yang ni apa punya pelik.loan 25k dia tak terima.semua nak loan atas 25k. rclxub.gif pastu diorang ada Starter edition.ada Micro Edition.ko kena prepared kertas kerja.

4)PUNB-Khas utk Bumiputera.KONONYA pemilik niaga kena sediakan 10% modal terlebih dahulu.pun kena kertas kerja.

apa2hal sekarang ni bro.sebut pasal NEW BUSSINESS sahaja sebut la bank atau agensi2 kerajaan ko bumiputera ke ko nonbumi ke mmg susah! diroang tak yakin dengan orang yang baru nak mulakan niaga.(ramai yang pinjam pastu liat@tak boleh nak bayar balik)nama kompeni pun ENTERPRISE....kalau kompeni SDNBHD pastu ko bayar incometax proses tu agak senang.

mind share ko punya Hp/komputer bussiness?

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:11 AM)
oh kau nak bukak kafe? aku nak jadik pengimport barang komputer. brows.gif tapikan ikut pengalaman aku.insyallah minggu ni atau depan sampai.

1)TEKUN-Susah nak @#$$%% ada ke patut modal starter pada orang nak jual kuih kat rumah?

2)Koperasi-Ni kena join dulu.ada yuran ada bla bla bla.

3)SME bank-yang ni apa punya pelik.loan 25k dia tak terima.semua nak loan atas 25k. rclxub.gif pastu diorang ada Starter edition.ada Micro Edition.ko kena prepared kertas kerja.

4)PUNB-Khas utk Bumiputera.KONONYA pemilik niaga kena sediakan 10% modal terlebih dahulu.

apa2hal sekarang ni bro.sebut pasal NEW BUSSINESS sahaja sebut la bank atau agensi2 kerajaan ko bumiputera ke ko nonbumi ke mmg susah! diroang tak yakin dengan orang yang baru nak mulakan niaga.(ramai yang pinjam pastu liat@tak boleh nak bayar balik)nama kompeni pun ENTERPRISE....kalau kompeni SDNBHD pastu ko bayar incometax proses tu agak senang.

mind share ko punya komputer bussiness?
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apa benda ko kerepek liao..
dia nak bukak cafe as in macam bistro tu kot.. takde kene mengena dgn komputer
SME punya loan depends on availability.. sometimes ko apply they said dah kuota sudah full
paling penting paper work lah
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:11 AM)
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bang, bm kamu sungguh berkuasa. saya kurang faham.
macam nak terang tak nak terang je.
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try ask from TEKUN?
last time my dad bukak bisnes but sell of that bisnes to frens because cant tahan work with no cuti.

but he just take loan around 10k maybe?

and yes, try collect as many contact for sng nak kembangkan bisnes. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:14 AM)
apa benda ko kerepek liao..
dia nak bukak cafe as in macam bistro tu kot.. takde kene mengena dgn komputer
SME punya loan depends on availability.. sometimes ko apply they said dah kuota sudah full
paling penting paper work lah
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pergi tengok post nombor 11#.dia pernah niaga HP dan komputer before.but he didnt say its failed or its sucessful.some people dont have primary directive in bussiness...dia tengok ahchong niaga dia pun sibuk nak niaga. smile.gif some person do a bussiness because its the bussiness itself start from hobby.someperson belajar tak pandai.result not good.so ending..berniaga.

Have bear in mind.Bussiness and Interest(hobby) its a different.

Money Laundry nak bersihkan duit kotor@haram pun ....BERNIAGA.

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:30 AM)
pergi tengok post nombor 11#.dia pernah niaga HP dan komputer before.but he didnt say its failed or its sucessful.some people dont have primary directive in bussiness...dia tengok ahchong niaga dia pun sibuk nak niaga. smile.gif some person do a bussiness because its the bussiness itself start from hobby.someperson belajar tak pandai.result not good.so ending..berniaga.

Have bear in mind.Bussiness and Interest(hobby) its a different.

Money Laundry nak bersihkan duit kotor@haram  pun ....BERNIAGA.
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mmg la. itu kan dia punya experience.
the main point skarang dia nak bukak cafe/restaurant bruce.gif
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QUOTE(itnama @ Mar 28 2011, 12:17 AM)
bang, bm kamu sungguh berkuasa. saya kurang faham.
macam nak terang tak nak terang je.
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u bumiputera ke? if u bumiputera u can exactly understand what i talk about.Bumiputera have special ability get some loan or some capital from goverment.tapi biokrasi kuat.kadang2 ada unsur2 politik.
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:33 AM)
u bumiputera ke? if u bumiputera u can exactly understand what i talk about.Bumiputera have special ability get some loan or some capital from goverment.tapi biokrasi kuat.kadang2 ada unsur2 politik.
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oh tak pe, aku baca 3 kali baru faham. guess my brain is not that functioning at this hour
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:33 AM)
u bumiputera ke? if u bumiputera u can exactly understand what i talk about.Bumiputera have special ability get some loan or some capital from goverment.tapi biokrasi kuat.kadang2 ada unsur2 politik.
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yes malays have right to get loan, but everything goes back to cronyism/bribery/politics

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:32 AM)
mmg la. itu kan dia punya experience.
the main point skarang dia nak bukak cafe/restaurant  bruce.gif
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expereince bekerja bawah orang atua niaga sendiri? hmm.gif kalau dia berniaga sendiri then phailed i need to know how can become phailed.its important for my reference.
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QUOTE(itnama @ Mar 28 2011, 12:36 AM)
oh tak pe, aku baca 3 kali baru faham. guess my brain is not that functioning at this hour
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mang u no work tomolo?
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:37 AM)
expereince bekerja bawah orang atua niaga sendiri? hmm.gif kalau dia berniaga sendiri then phailed i need to know how can become phailed.its important for my reference.
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tatau aku. ko tunggu la dia reply.. kalau dia nak reply la
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:36 AM)
yes malays have right to get loan, but everything goes back to cronyism/bribery/politics
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aku pergi tekun.diorang HANYA bagi modal pusingan.modal starter sori takde.(ni kes ramai pinjam pastu tak bayar) tapi kalau ko niaga uptown atau pasar malam...ko ada lesen niaga pasar malam...diorang boleh bagi loan. rclxub.gif

kalau tak salah aku loan TEKUN paling murah sekali.4% setahun.pastu bayaran boleh pilih nak bulan? minggu?

tapikan...aku nak tanya sikit.Kalau buat kertas kerja bussiness...nowdays bussiness not like 10 years ago...nowdays very comeptitve.kos barang pun mahal...so it could be mempengaruhi keputusan pihak SME bank meluluskan loan? hmm.gif
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ask parents buat microcredit loan?
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:41 AM)
aku pergi tekun.diorang HANYA bagi modal pusingan.modal starter sori takde.(ni kes ramai pinjam pastu tak bayar) tapi kalau ko niaga uptown atau pasar malam...ko ada lesen niaga pasar malam...diorang boleh bagi loan. rclxub.gif

kalau tak salah aku loan TEKUN paling murah sekali.4% setahun.pastu bayaran boleh pilih nak bulan? minggu?

tapikan...aku nak tanya sikit.Kalau buat kertas kerja bussiness...nowdays bussiness not like 10 years ago...nowdays very comeptitve.kos barang pun mahal...so it could be mempengaruhi keputusan pihak SME bank meluluskan loan? hmm.gif
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SME aku tak sure, tapi kawan aku have to bribe the officer with free service at his workshop everytime he comes then onli his loan got approved hahaha bodoh..
its hard to do business in malaysia if u dont have capital to start with, tambah dengan hukum halal haram riba apa benda sume.. tak slamat akhirat
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:38 AM)
tatau aku. ko tunggu la dia reply.. kalau dia nak reply la
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bahaya woo main lompat-lompat pengalaman/kerja ni.tiap2 bussiness@job tak sama pengalaman.sometimes it phailed from us.sometimes it phailed from the bussines itself(competitive price,bad service ) sometimes experience not enough.

tapi yang aku tau kedai makan ni bukak tepi jalan@atas jalanr raya pun boleh hidup. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:44 AM)
SME aku tak sure, tapi kawan aku have to bribe the officer with free service at his workshop everytime he comes then onli his loan got approved hahaha bodoh..
its hard to do business in malaysia if u dont have capital to start with, tambah dengan hukum halal haram riba apa benda sume.. tak slamat akhirat
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kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:51 AM)
kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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the hereafter is my ultimate goal

saya makan gaji cukup la.. tak buat bisnes pon takpe
concentrate saham akhirat la pulak
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:51 AM)
kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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dude, what kinda mentality is that?
itu bukan bina kabel, tu terang-terang bagi rasuah.
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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:54 AM)
saya makan gaji cukup la.. tak buat bisnes pon takpe
concentrate saham akhirat la pulak
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tengok pulak gaji ko berapa.pastu ko keje what company? public listing? or GLC company? if yes nothing to worried.just care of job only....aku kalau aku boleh terbalikkan masa mmg aku pilih makan gaji.pasal aku tau dan aku nampak niaga kat malaysia ni macam mana.but the truth is i am already in. already 5 years.start from nothing.dont know everything...if i am stop now i am most stupid person in on the earth.have knowldege and expereince but dont use.u thing what? aku belajar tinggi-tinggi sampai diploma ke? sijil? ...aku ada SPM je.itu pun nak masuk UITM tak lepas...aku masuk politeknik pun separuh jalan..apa aku nak buat? BUSSINESS!...aku target sampai aku ke tahap DISTRIBITOR not Retailer or Dealer.My primary directive is a MANUFACTURE.

I must finished what i have started. bruce.gif

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dude, what kinda mentality is that?
itu bukan bina kabel, tu terang-terang bagi rasuah.
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itu la realiti berniaga.yang memberi tu nak mengharapkan sesuatu.yang menerima tu kalau dia luluskan loan tu dia rugi apa? bukan duit dia.bukan kompeni dia.kalau dia ni mgm kaki suap...satu bulan ada 10 kes.satu kes 10% sekali kes minimum RM 30k loan...so kalau kantoi dia tak boleh lepas ke? setakat kena saman atau denda ingat pengawai yang makan rasuah tu tak boleh bayar? rclxms.gif kerja mati2 kat bank tu pun bukan dapat hasil macam tu.betul tak? rclxms.gif

tengok tu hari kes bank kena tipu RM 19 juta.konon bekal sparepart pada MIG29.bank pun bodoh rabun mata.kerja orang dalam.sekarnag ni dah lesap ntah kemana.siap boleh cakap alamat tak wujud....diorang siap reserved RM 9 juta pay installment pada bank...ingat orang yang terlibat tu tak tahu ke bende ni? kerja mati-mati 24 jam pun dengan bank tu ...bank dapat nama.habis yang kita kerja mati2 ni daapt apa? tongue.gif

itu pasal pecah amanah dan rasuah makin menjadi-jadi.Lesen MPS pun nak buat kena main undertable. doh.gif dulu aku perhati kes pecah amanah agak terhad.sekarang ni director ke akauntan ke.polis ke.bank ke hakim ke.semua terlibat. whistling.gif

ada member aku tu.ajak along(ceti haram) datang kedai.konon nak loan.belanja makan sampai RM 50.last-last phailed.because along need cagaran and not confident with shop and enviroment.

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yeaaaay, matlamat menghalalkan cara
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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Mar 27 2011, 11:13 PM)
perhaps maybe ur parents need to be guarantor for ur loan............why not approach Bank Rakyat or Bank Agro for this...........
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but they need my pay slip right?

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bump for more feedback.
goodluck ts.. :grin:
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:11 AM)
oh kau nak bukak kafe? aku nak jadik pengimport barang komputer. brows.gif tapikan ikut pengalaman aku.insyallah minggu ni atau depan sampai.kita sekapal bro-dua2 takde modal pastu dua2 still new dalam bussiness. notworthy.gif

1)TEKUN-Susah nak @#$$%% ada ke patut modal starter pada orang nak jual kuih kat rumah? (ni kes ramai orang pinjam tak bayar balik)

2)Koperasi-Ni kena join dulu.ada yuran ada bla bla bla.

3)SME bank-yang ni apa punya pelik.loan 25k dia tak terima.semua nak loan atas 25k. rclxub.gif pastu diorang ada Starter edition.ada Micro Edition.ko kena prepared kertas kerja.

4)PUNB-Khas utk Bumiputera.KONONYA pemilik niaga kena sediakan 10% modal terlebih dahulu.pun kena kertas kerja.

apa2hal sekarang ni bro.sebut pasal NEW BUSSINESS sahaja sebut la bank atau agensi2 kerajaan ko bumiputera ke ko nonbumi ke mmg susah! diroang tak yakin dengan orang yang baru nak mulakan niaga.(ramai yang pinjam pastu liat@tak boleh nak bayar balik)nama kompeni pun ENTERPRISE....kalau kompeni SDNBHD pastu ko bayar incometax proses tu agak senang.

mind share ko punya Hp/komputer bussiness?
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Mar 28 2011, 12:22 AM)
try ask from TEKUN?
last time my dad bukak bisnes but sell of that bisnes to frens because cant tahan work with no cuti.

but he just take loan around 10k maybe?

and yes, try collect as many contact for sng nak kembangkan bisnes. wink.gif
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 28 2011, 12:44 AM)
ask parents buat microcredit loan?
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microcredit loan?sorry haha x faham
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setiap kali aku tengok post ko dan avatar ko, aku rasa memang sangat sesuai
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ye la duit kopi sana sini. nanti rezeki banyak mana pun rasa tak cukup.
yang memberi, yang menerima; sama saja.

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:17 AM)
itu la realiti berniaga.yang memberi tu nak mengharapkan sesuatu.yang menerima tu kalau dia luluskan loan tu dia rugi apa? bukan duit dia.bukan kompeni dia.kalau dia ni mgm kaki suap...satu bulan ada 10 kes.satu kes 10% sekali kes minimum RM 30k loan...so kalau kantoi dia tak boleh lepas ke? setakat kena saman atau denda ingat pengawai yang makan rasuah tu tak boleh bayar? rclxms.gif kerja mati2 kat bank tu pun bukan dapat hasil macam tu.betul tak? rclxms.gif

tengok tu hari kes bank kena tipu RM 19 juta.konon bekal sparepart pada MIG29.bank pun bodoh rabun mata.kerja orang dalam.sekarnag ni dah lesap ntah kemana.siap boleh cakap alamat tak wujud....diorang siap reserved RM 9 juta pay installment pada bank...ingat orang yang terlibat tu tak tahu ke bende ni? kerja mati-mati 24 jam pun dengan bank tu ...bank dapat nama.habis yang kita kerja mati2 ni daapt apa?  tongue.gif 

itu pasal pecah amanah dan rasuah makin menjadi-jadi.Lesen MPS pun nak buat kena main undertable. doh.gif dulu aku perhati kes pecah amanah agak terhad.sekarang ni director ke akauntan ke.polis ke.bank ke hakim ke.semua terlibat. whistling.gif

ada member aku tu.ajak along(ceti haram) datang kedai.konon nak loan.belanja makan sampai RM 50.last-last phailed.because along need cagaran and not confident with shop and enviroment.
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xpa sekurang2nya kau da nampak dunia perniagaan mcm mana...aku dulu buat niaga hp dgn pc kecil-kecilan pun kena makan dengan member baik sendiri...dah la aku tolong dia...belakang aku duk tikam dgn kutok aku lagi..sampai skrg aku susah nak percaya org tmasuklah adik bradik aku sendiri
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QUOTE(cekpo @ Mar 28 2011, 01:37 AM)
yeaaaay, matlamat menghalalkan cara
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bribe bumpiputera lain.bribe nonbumi lain.3 kali kena serbu rilek je.GRO,judi.rumah urut etc etc.

btw..tak salah aku ada pinjaman utk belia.tak tahu sekarang still exist atau tidak.....satu lagi pinjaman mikro from selected bank...tapi yang ni kelayakan kena 3 tahun.pastu turnoever setahun kena berapa ntah...ingat jual apa? dadah ke? mad.gif
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try punb program. 6 months of training
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bagi aku kat dunia nih dalam apa bidang skalipun,kalau kau minat dan rajin usaha n tawakal insyaAllah..DIA slalu dgn kita...dan slalu ingat harta n duit yg kita ada tu bukannya 100% milik kita..
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM)
bribe bumpiputera lain.bribe nonbumi lain.3 kali kena serbu rilek je.GRO,judi.rumah urut etc etc.

btw..tak salah aku ada pinjaman utk belia.tak tahu sekarang still exist atau tidak.....satu lagi pinjaman mikro from selected bank...tapi yang ni kelayakan kena 3 tahun.pastu turnoever setahun kena berapa ntah...ingat jual apa? dadah ke? mad.gif
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brg pc yg kau bli dari kapal tu,brg apa?cerita lah skit..
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xpa sekurang2nya kau da nampak dunia perniagaan mcm mana...aku dulu buat niaga hp dgn pc kecil-kecilan pun kena makan dengan member baik sendiri...dah la aku tolong dia...belakang aku duk tikam dgn kutok aku lagi..sampai skrg aku susah nak percaya org tmasuklah adik bradik aku sendiri
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ni kes tarik kustomer masuk poket sendiri la ni.pastu duit service tu pergi kat dia.gaji dapat.duit luar pun dapat.golongan macam ni tak boleh tengok duit banyak depan mata.nanti dia jadik rabun mata. mad.gif
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brg pc yg kau bli dari kapal tu,brg apa?cerita lah skit..
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nanti aku PM ko.tak berapa `sesuai` cerita kat sini.
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QUOTE(manBREASTer @ Mar 28 2011, 01:48 AM)
try punb program. 6 months of training
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thanks bro..nanti aku check smile.gif
QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:51 AM)
ni kes tarik kustomer masuk poket sendiri la ni.pastu duit service tu pergi kat dia.gaji dapat.duit luar pun dapat.golongan macam ni tak boleh tengok duit banyak depan mata.nanti dia jadik rabun mata. mad.gif
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aku xkisah pun kalau dia nak niaga pc n hp sendiri,tapi sekurang2nya bagitawlah aku dulu..semua ilmu pasal benda tu awal2 dia zero..bila aku ajar barulah bijak skit..tapi bila da bijak..kepala aku plak kena pijak..dahla kena pijak..nama aku duk dia buruk2kan
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smoga berjaya
aku pun nk bukak bisnes nanti
bukan ada skim graduan ke untuk student ?
cube check...
and nanti jgn kaya nanti..terus lupa diri
solat tinggal..buat maksiat.. memang tak berkat smile.gif
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thanks bro..nanti aku check smile.gif
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the good thing is, you can learn some lessons from the experienced sifu one
you will be assigned to work at previous trainee's company (now tokey already), and be taught of the business strategy, hands on rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:52 AM)
nanti aku PM ko.tak berapa `sesuai` cerita kat sini.
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QUOTE(hanieyf @ Mar 28 2011, 01:58 AM)
smoga berjaya
aku pun nk bukak bisnes nanti
bukan ada skim graduan ke untuk student ?
cube check...
and nanti jgn kaya nanti..terus lupa diri
solat tinggal..buat maksiat.. memang tak berkat smile.gif
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thanks bro..aku penah baca tentang tu..tapi bukan dia beri kursus kemahiran jeke?pasal agama,insyaAllah selagi aku berdiri dekat dunianih,aku cuba jaga n buat perubahan..kau pun good luck jugak smile.gif

QUOTE(manBREASTer @ Mar 28 2011, 01:59 AM)
the good thing is, you can learn some lessons from the experienced sifu one
you will be assigned to work at previous trainee's company (now tokey already), and be taught of the business strategy, hands on rclxms.gif
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terbaeklah..thanks a lot bro...xdpt buat loan..dapat belajar dulu pun dah bagus
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 01:56 AM)
aku xkisah pun kalau dia nak niaga pc n hp sendiri,tapi sekurang2nya bagitawlah aku dulu..semua ilmu pasal benda tu awal2 dia zero..bila aku ajar barulah bijak skit..tapi bila da bijak..kepala aku plak kena pijak..dahla kena pijak..nama aku duk  dia buruk2kan
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ni mmg standard bro.bila ko dah tahap majikan ko akan tahu.ko ada pekerja.ko ajar pekerja itu ini.ko bayar gaji sampai satu tahap.pekerja ko blah...dia blah tu sama ada pergi kompeni lain kerja (gaji menarik.insetif bla bla ) ataupun dia buat sendiri...tu pasal majikan kat malaysia ni kalau upah rakyat tempatan nak murah-murah.diorang dah tahu bende ni.bagi ilmu sikit blah.keje kompeni lain.hampeh betul...lagipun metaaliti pekerja kat malaysia ni nak kerja bergaji besar.kalau ada offer menarik mesti nak blah.

bende ni kita panggil SpinOff.
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nice ah korang otak bisnes yg btul2 cmni. asyik dgr MLM rasa nak muntah pn ade.

aku modal ada tp idea tarak, terbalik huhu T_T
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nice ah korang otak bisnes yg btul2 cmni. asyik dgr MLM rasa nak muntah pn ade.
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 02:05 AM)
ni mmg standard bro.bila ko dah tahap majikan ko akan tahu.ko ada pekerja.ko ajar pekerja itu ini.ko bayar gaji sampai satu tahap.pekerja ko blah...dia blah tu sama ada pergi kompeni lain kerja (gaji menarik.insetif bla bla ) ataupun dia buat sendiri...tu pasal majikan kat malaysia ni kalau upah rakyat tempatan nak murah-murah.diorang dah tahu bende ni.bagi ilmu sikit blah.keje kompeni lain.hampeh betul...lagipun metaaliti pekerja kat malaysia ni nak kerja bergaji besar.kalau ada offer menarik mesti nak blah.

bende ni kita panggil SpinOff.
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QUOTE(admnovsk @ Mar 28 2011, 02:07 AM)
nice ah korang otak bisnes yg btul2 cmni. asyik dgr MLM rasa nak muntah pn ade.

aku modal ada tp idea tarak, terbalik huhu T_T
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hehe...aku start berniaga time tu umur 16..first business time tu jual n btulkan hp...aku pun dulu xpernah terfikir untuk berminat berniaga..tapi time tu aku bru jadi anak yatim,so aku terpaksa cri sumber perbelanjaan sendiri..kalau dulu apa2 je aku mintak arwah mak aku
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM)
bribe bumpiputera lain.bribe nonbumi lain.3 kali kena serbu rilek je.GRO,judi.rumah urut etc etc.

btw..tak salah aku ada pinjaman utk belia.tak tahu sekarang still exist atau tidak.....satu lagi pinjaman mikro from selected bank...tapi yang ni kelayakan kena 3 tahun.pastu turnoever setahun kena berapa ntah...ingat jual apa? dadah ke? mad.gif
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 02:19 AM)
hehe...aku start berniaga time tu umur 16..first business time tu jual n btulkan hp...aku pun dulu xpernah terfikir untuk berminat berniaga..tapi time tu aku bru jadi anak yatim,so aku terpaksa cri sumber perbelanjaan sendiri..kalau dulu apa2 je aku mintak arwah mak aku
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kalau nak diikutkan.sales and service ni jauh boleh pergi.satu tahap mampu menguasai ekonomi negara.Salah seorang CEO korea pecah amanah berbilion2 tetapi kerajaan korea terpaksa memaafkan dia its because he is KEY people in country econonmy industri.Takde dia masalah besar akan timbul.

company Sony tu pun pengasas dia mula dengan repair jugak.repair radio.

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 03:35 AM)
kalau nak diikutkan.sales and service ni jauh boleh pergi.satu tahap mampu menguasai ekonomi negara.Salah seorang CEO korea pecah amanah berbilion2 tetapi kerajaan korea terpaksa memaafkan dia its because he is KEY people in country econonmy industri.Takde dia masalah besar akan timbul.

company Sony tu pun pengasas dia mula dengan repair jugak.repair radio.
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takkan la tak pasal2 ada yang nak bagi duit kat student yang baru abes belajar macam tu je...

yang bagi pinjam duit tu tak pikir ke ko nak tipu dia lepas ko dapat duit?

kena cari modal sendiri jugak sikit...
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QUOTE(hlyshgrsyd @ Mar 28 2011, 08:22 AM)
takkan la tak pasal2 ada yang nak bagi duit kat student yang baru abes belajar macam tu je...

yang bagi pinjam duit tu tak pikir ke ko nak tipu dia lepas ko dapat duit?

kena cari modal sendiri jugak sikit...
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Daftar je kt ssm. br bley wat loan
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:52 AM)
nanti aku PM ko.tak berapa `sesuai` cerita kat sini.
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PUTRAJAYA 28 Mac - Jumlah pembiayaan maksimum Tabung Usahawan Siswazah (TUS) dinaikkan sekali ganda kepada RM500,000 mulai hari ini berbanding RM250,000 sebelum ini, bagi menarik lebih ramai lepasan institusi pengajian tinggi memohon pembiayaan daripada tabung berkenaan.

sile lah apply
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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 28 2011, 04:55 PM)
Ask from UMNO, just say you will put their sticker on your shop they will gip you free $$$ to open you's cafe.
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MITI:

PUTRAJAYA 28 Mac - Jumlah pembiayaan maksimum Tabung Usahawan Siswazah (TUS) dinaikkan sekali ganda kepada RM500,000 mulai hari ini berbanding RM250,000 sebelum ini, bagi menarik lebih ramai lepasan institusi pengajian tinggi memohon pembiayaan daripada tabung berkenaan.

sile lah apply
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nak apply mana eh?
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QUOTE(lagenda @ Mar 28 2011, 05:01 PM)
nak apply mana eh?
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sorry beb, aku pon tak sure.. keluar kat paper pasal MITI tu haha
aku usha website haram satu tak faham..
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sorry beb, aku pon tak sure.. keluar kat paper pasal MITI tu haha
aku usha website haram satu tak faham..
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takpe2 cari lagi flex.gif
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banyak je bolh apply. tapi sebab banyak sangat, taktau nak apply mana 1. unsure.gif
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O'RLY? Then can tell my why got so many sucky Bumi class F contractor get BN tender, and then outsource to non-Bumi contractor to finish the job then pocket the difference?

You wanna be in denial, can, but don't shield other people from the truth
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bebal...kalau kau nak tahu..melayu yang slalu dapat tender bn suma tu...tu suma melayu kroni politik ko taw x?ko ingat melayu terlalu istimewa sgt ke?bangsa kitaorang pun slalu ditindas dgn bangsa sendiri..melayu makan melayu
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Ya lor, i'm telling TS to become UMNO crony mah, you so butthurt for wat?
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hahaha tu la pasal kan
btw fertz, cukup ke 30k?
ni dah plan abis2 ke ni

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Ya lor, i'm telling TS to become UMNO crony mah, you so butthurt for wat?
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nak kate ko nih bodo...memangpun ko bodo..nak kate ko ni pandai..jauh skali agaknya...aku lah TS..so aku perlu butthurt lah bengap!
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ahahahaha.. sangat kelakar laugh.gif
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sila paste dekat funny post kebebalan yang amat ketara
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Thank you for sharing stories futurewyatt.

I belev lots of things that you wrote.

A bit of an eyeopener.
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SME BANK
banyak je bolh apply. tapi sebab banyak sangat, taktau nak apply mana 1.  unsure.gif
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nak loan dengan sme kena atas rm 20k baru diorang layan.kalau less than that dia halau kita soh pi Mara.atau Tekun.pastu kena tengok Niaga kita bidang apa? perkhidmatan? services atau apa?.aku difahamkan oleh pengawai SME tu sendiri korang kena ada premis ataupun opis pun boleh.tapi aku tak DAPAT detect siapa yang berjaya proses loan dari SME ni...

Kita ni nama je Melayu.sepatutnya bende ni jadi mudah pasal duduk kat negara sendiri yang dah merdeka.pemerintah bukan lagi penjajah asing.tapi apa yang jadik? aku tau ramai anak melayu berbakat dan mempunyai semangat keyakinan yang tinggi utk berniaga tapi tu lah.bukan takde rezeki tapi rezeki tu dialihkan dan diambil oleh pihak tidak berkenaan.
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hahaha tu la pasal kan
btw fertz, cukup ke 30k?
ni dah plan abis2 ke ni
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tu kedai apa RM 30k? ni nak bukak warung atau nak bukak restoran? yang aku paham restoran pun busuk2 dah telan RM 100k...ada lesen itu ini.itu ini kena beli.pastu ada pengawai akan datang check kedai kita bersih atau kotor.tu yang ada gred A atau B kat kedai makan.tu tahap kebersihan....

pastu kalau ko tak nak pening kepala pasal directkos bulanan.ko jual bende paling best kat muka bumi ni.ROKOK!.rokok untung dikira dari segi sales.satu bulan kalau sales jualan rokok cecah RM 10k untung ko akan dikira dari segi ROYALTY.5% tak salah aku.lagi banyak ko jual lagi untung. rclxms.gif banyak sangat menjual rokok..ko tutup kedai makan ko jual rokok je la. laugh.gif..aku tau ni pun aku `selongkar` rekod sales stesen minyak.tapi rahsialah stesen minyak mana. whistling.gif

patut la kempen rokok tidak pernah berjaya. rclxub.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 29 2011, 02:51 PM)
tu kedai apa RM 30k? ni nak bukak warung atau nak bukak restoran? yang aku paham restoran pun busuk2 dah telan RM 100k...ada lesen itu ini.itu ini kena beli.pastu ada pengawai akan datang check kedai kita bersih atau kotor.tu yang ada gred A atau B kat kedai makan.tu tahap kebersihan....

pastu kalau ko tak nak pening kepala pasal directkos bulanan.ko jual bende paling best kat muka bumi ni.ROKOK!.rokok untung dikira dari segi sales.satu bulan kalau sales jualan rokok cecah RM 10k untung ko akan dikira dari segi ROYALTY.5% tak salah aku.lagi banyak ko jual lagi untung. rclxms.gif banyak sangat menjual rokok..ko tutup kedai makan ko jual rokok je la. laugh.gif..aku tau ni pun aku `selongkar` rekod sales stesen minyak.tapi rahsialah stesen minyak mana. whistling.gif

patut la kempen rokok tidak pernah berjaya. rclxub.gif  shocking.gif
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LOL, betul bro.

DUlu lepas sekolah aku kerja petrol station.

Bos aku cakap, untung jual rokok dengan keropok twisties dan air coke lagi banyak dari untung jual petrol.
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 29 2011, 02:51 PM)
tu kedai apa RM 30k? ni nak bukak warung atau nak bukak restoran? yang aku paham restoran pun busuk2 dah telan RM 100k...ada lesen itu ini.itu ini kena beli.pastu ada pengawai akan datang check kedai kita bersih atau kotor.tu yang ada gred A atau B kat kedai makan.tu tahap kebersihan....

pastu kalau ko tak nak pening kepala pasal directkos bulanan.ko jual bende paling best kat muka bumi ni.ROKOK!.rokok untung dikira dari segi sales.satu bulan kalau sales jualan rokok cecah RM 10k untung ko akan dikira dari segi ROYALTY.5% tak salah aku.lagi banyak ko jual lagi untung. rclxms.gif banyak sangat menjual rokok..ko tutup kedai makan ko jual rokok je la. laugh.gif..aku tau ni pun aku `selongkar` rekod sales stesen minyak.tapi rahsialah stesen minyak mana. whistling.gif

patut la kempen rokok tidak pernah berjaya. rclxub.gif  shocking.gif
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QUOTE(KarchKiraly @ Mar 27 2011, 05:32 PM)
Go work for someone first (at least a few months) and learn about the restaurant/cafe business. Slowly build up your experience and capital. You need the experience more than the money. Not easy running this type of business... many things you need to know, local regulations, how to manage people, how to attract customers, purchase daily food stock most of the time very early in the morning, need to clean-up everyday, need to wipe table with soapy water to prevent flies, competition in your area (they will check you out and some people don't play nice), etc.

So you takde modal dan takde experience? Apa jenis cafe atau restoran mahu buka?
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 29 2011, 02:43 PM)
nak loan dengan sme kena atas rm 20k baru diorang layan.kalau less than that dia halau kita soh pi Mara.atau Tekun.pastu kena tengok Niaga kita bidang apa? perkhidmatan? services atau apa?.aku difahamkan oleh pengawai SME tu sendiri korang kena ada premis ataupun opis pun boleh.tapi aku tak DAPAT detect siapa yang berjaya proses loan dari SME ni...

Kita ni nama je Melayu.sepatutnya bende ni jadi mudah pasal duduk kat negara sendiri yang dah merdeka.pemerintah bukan lagi penjajah asing.tapi apa yang jadik? aku tau ramai anak melayu berbakat dan mempunyai semangat keyakinan yang tinggi utk berniaga tapi tu lah.bukan takde rezeki tapi rezeki tu dialihkan dan diambil oleh pihak tidak berkenaan.
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aku rasa memang aku kena buat loan >20k.

aku niaga dalam bidang IT/services. premis pun dah ada.

haa kalau kau ada cable SME tu PM la aku. boleh aku tanya dia process seterusnya icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Mar 30 2011, 01:10 AM)
LOL, betul bro.

DUlu lepas sekolah aku kerja petrol station.

Bos aku cakap, untung jual rokok dengan keropok twisties dan air coke lagi banyak dari untung jual petrol.
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dalam list sales bulanan tu...dia ada list rokok.alat tulis.makanan etc etc...yang aku dapat tahu.ROKOK is a 1st. 2st makanan. 3rd apa ntah...yang tak gerak langsung alat tulis.
sales yang aku dapat korek tu mencecah RM 100k sebulan.untung bersih RM 5k.ini stesen minyak petronas. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 05:48 PM)
bebal...kalau kau nak tahu..melayu yang slalu dapat tender bn suma tu...tu suma melayu kroni politik ko taw x?ko ingat melayu terlalu istimewa sgt ke?bangsa kitaorang pun slalu ditindas dgn bangsa sendiri..melayu makan melayu
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apa pulak.kalau ko nak main tender ko mesti SIJIL KEWANGAN dari Kementerian.Nak sijil tu ko kena ada DIPLOMA.ada customer aku dia ada sijil 16 sijil. biggrin.gif sijil kapal terbang pun dia ada.perabot.macam2 sijil la.dia tunjuk sijil kewangan kat aku.tu hari dia rugi tender kapal terbang design apa ntah kat RM 70juta.tender jatuh kat tangan orang lain.
Tender pun bukan tetap.dia ada list dia.biasa ada list dari 1~100.kadang2 yang list 100 tu yang dapat.kadang2 terbalik.Bahaya main tender ni awal tahun ko akan duduk termenung.projek takde.jadi ko nak bayar gaji pekerja.bayar itu ini dah garu kepala....kena tunggu bulan 6 gitu.ada sorang tu aku kenal.turnover dia setahun RM 3juta...awal tahun dok kat tangga rumah...aku tanya kenapa? dia kata awal tahun.sesak sikit...tahap sesak tu sampaikan soket 3 pin kat dinding pun kena buat jugak. sweat.gif shakehead.gif sebelum tu dia reject..ye lah kan untung berapa sen sangat.tolak itu ini apa yang tinggal..?

tapi otak orang main tender TAK SAMA dengan orang yang jadi dealer dan salesman ni.orang main tender dia tak boleh ditest susah sikit.pasal dia tahu cukup bulan tender ni mesti dapat.satu tender tu boleh settel semua overhead dia sebulan.
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 30 2011, 12:49 PM)
apa pulak.kalau ko nak main tender ko mesti SIJIL KEWANGAN dari Kementerian.Nak sijil tu ko kena ada DIPLOMA.ada customer aku dia ada sijil 16 sijil. biggrin.gif sijil kapal terbang pun dia ada.perabot.macam2 sijil la.dia tunjuk sijil kewangan kat aku.tu hari dia rugi tender kapal terbang design apa ntah kat RM 70juta.tender jatuh kat tangan orang lain.
Tender pun bukan tetap.dia ada list dia.biasa ada list dari 1~100.kadang2 yang list 100 tu yang dapat.kadang2 terbalik.Bahaya main tender ni awal tahun ko akan duduk termenung.projek takde.jadi ko nak bayar gaji pekerja.bayar itu ini dah garu kepala....kena tunggu bulan 6 gitu.ada sorang tu aku kenal.turnover dia setahun RM 3juta...awal tahun dok kat tangga rumah...aku tanya kenapa? dia kata awal tahun.sesak sikit...tahap sesak tu sampaikan soket 3 pin kat dinding pun kena buat jugak. sweat.gif  shakehead.gif  sebelum tu dia reject..ye lah kan untung berapa sen sangat.tolak itu ini apa yang tinggal..?

tapi otak orang main tender TAK SAMA dengan orang yang jadi dealer dan salesman ni.orang main tender dia tak boleh ditest susah sikit.pasal dia tahu cukup bulan tender ni mesti dapat.satu tender tu boleh settel semua overhead dia sebulan.
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the best is, use your own money. don't owe anyone. you don't even know whether you are getting business or not.
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bapak aku supply frozen food... mula2 memang susah.... siang kerja pejabat, malam jaga kedai..... sekarang brenti kerja fulltime jaga kedai.... tapi yg xbestnya bila orang hutang liat nak bayar....
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QUOTE(lagenda @ Mar 30 2011, 01:00 PM)
sebab tu la aku suka lagi services. takyah cari job. jobs yang datang cari kita  rclxms.gif
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itu dulu bro.time barang mahal.since ko kat IT industrie services ko apa sangat? Format? virus scanning? cuci habuk? hantar? pasang? bende2 biasa sahaja.paling kuat pun kat tangan ko ada skru driver mata bunga tu aja.pastu services IT ni sangat bergantung pada brang yang nak diservis tu.kalau barang tu branded price value ada lagi..ada la sikit2 boleh buat.tapi kalau bende tu beli second atau beli barang yang ntah hapa2 ...tukang services pun ntah hapa-hapa.biasanya bila dah jadik ntah hapa-hapa...end user akan salahkan tukang services cakap tukang services tak pandai.tipu orang.habis dikutuk tukang services tu habis habis. whistling.gif padahal barang dia ntah hapa-hapa.pastu bahagian manufacture pun sama jugak...cut cost habis kat produk.

tu pasal aku nak cut off services.aku nak concentrate pada bussiness dan sales saja...sales banyak2.supplier pun suka.untung-untung vaucher KFC RM 10 dia bagi.hahahaa. rclxms.gif ingat aku tak tahu benefit dari sales ni macam mana? setakat services tu upah je la Ali enterprise atau Kumar enterprise buat.bagi duit minum kopi je. whistling.gif
tu kat lowyat banyak-banyak tu.ingat semua satu barang ada kos ke? order 10 wireless router free 1 wireless adapter la.pastu harga wireless adapter tu berapa? thumbup.gif
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tapi yg xbestnya bila orang hutang liat nak bayar....
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 30 2011, 01:20 PM)
itu dulu bro.time barang mahal.since ko kat IT industrie services ko apa sangat? Format? virus scanning? cuci habuk? hantar? pasang?  bende2 biasa sahaja.paling kuat pun kat tangan ko ada skru driver mata bunga tu aja.pastu services IT ni sangat bergantung pada brang yang nak diservis tu.kalau barang tu branded price value ada lagi..ada la sikit2 boleh buat.tapi kalau bende tu beli second atau beli barang yang ntah hapa2 ...tukang services pun ntah hapa-hapa.biasanya bila dah jadik ntah hapa-hapa...end user akan salahkan tukang services cakap tukang services tak pandai.tipu orang.habis dikutuk tukang services tu habis habis. whistling.gif padahal barang dia ntah hapa-hapa.pastu bahagian manufacture pun sama jugak...cut cost habis kat produk.

tu pasal aku nak cut off services.aku nak concentrate pada bussiness dan sales saja...sales banyak2.supplier pun suka.untung-untung vaucher KFC RM 10 dia bagi.hahahaa. rclxms.gif ingat aku tak tahu benefit dari sales ni macam mana? setakat services tu  upah je la Ali enterprise atau Kumar enterprise buat.bagi duit minum kopi je. whistling.gif
tu kat lowyat banyak-banyak tu.ingat semua satu barang ada kos ke? order 10 wireless router free 1 wireless adapter la.pastu harga wireless adapter tu berapa? thumbup.gif
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setakat cuci2 tak main la bang. aku buat repair la. sometimes modal berapa sen sangat. tapi boleh charge rm100-200.

siapa yang buat repair ni tau la. kita orang bukan jual barang. tapi kita orang jual skill. flex.gif

aku pun ada gak buat sales. tapi profit kecil. kecuali kau dah jadi sole distributor memang makan tak habis la.

nak tak nak kena la kenal dengan banyak distributor. pastu cepat kalau tak company lain dah lock harga.

ala buat sales ni pun kadang2 main sub2 jugak. paling kurang sorang middlemen.

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one step closer to ur dream smile.gif, there alot thing u must know, like biz proposal, idea n etc. Try consult wif bro omara, since he already involve in biz for quite long

Inb4 good luck dude smile.gif
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QUOTE(lagenda @ Mar 30 2011, 06:43 PM)
setakat cuci2 tak main la bang. aku buat repair la. sometimes modal berapa sen sangat. tapi boleh charge rm100-200.
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tu dulu bro.laptop pun mahal masa tu.ada harga.sekarang? paling cikai Rm 1300 boleh dapat.1 year pertama ada waranti. second year rosak.tak leh on.nak repair apa? masa tu akan jadik lagi murah...aku tak nampak point repair merepair ni boleh pergi jauh boleh hidup lama.bukan ko repair kereta..sebuah kereta walaupun usia dia 20 tahun..gearbox rosak orang still nak repair lagi.pasal orang tahu kereta baru pun mahal.secondhand pun kena tengok jugak.baik repair...ni laptop cant boot tengok mobo kong. rclxub.gif pastu sekarang ada menatang apa? netbook? kalau netbook tu keluar RM 2k mahal gila2 takpe.ni keluar murah.Prolink RM 888 boleh dapat. doh.gif

takpe-takpe `Reverse Enginerring` aku in process.aku tengah plan Laptop as lower RM 900 thumbup.gif hahaha.Sales rules the world! whistling.gif

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