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Ovi
post Mar 28 2011, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:41 AM)
aku pergi tekun.diorang HANYA bagi modal pusingan.modal starter sori takde.(ni kes ramai pinjam pastu tak bayar) tapi kalau ko niaga uptown atau pasar malam...ko ada lesen niaga pasar malam...diorang boleh bagi loan. rclxub.gif

kalau tak salah aku loan TEKUN paling murah sekali.4% setahun.pastu bayaran boleh pilih nak bulan? minggu?

tapikan...aku nak tanya sikit.Kalau buat kertas kerja bussiness...nowdays bussiness not like 10 years ago...nowdays very comeptitve.kos barang pun mahal...so it could be mempengaruhi keputusan pihak SME bank meluluskan loan? hmm.gif
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SME aku tak sure, tapi kawan aku have to bribe the officer with free service at his workshop everytime he comes then onli his loan got approved hahaha bodoh..
its hard to do business in malaysia if u dont have capital to start with, tambah dengan hukum halal haram riba apa benda sume.. tak slamat akhirat
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:38 AM)
tatau aku. ko tunggu la dia reply.. kalau dia nak reply la
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bahaya woo main lompat-lompat pengalaman/kerja ni.tiap2 bussiness@job tak sama pengalaman.sometimes it phailed from us.sometimes it phailed from the bussines itself(competitive price,bad service ) sometimes experience not enough.

tapi yang aku tau kedai makan ni bukak tepi jalan@atas jalanr raya pun boleh hidup. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:44 AM)
SME aku tak sure, tapi kawan aku have to bribe the officer with free service at his workshop everytime he comes then onli his loan got approved hahaha bodoh..
its hard to do business in malaysia if u dont have capital to start with, tambah dengan hukum halal haram riba apa benda sume.. tak slamat akhirat
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kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:51 AM)
kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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cable tak cable its a no no to me,
the hereafter is my ultimate goal

saya makan gaji cukup la.. tak buat bisnes pon takpe
concentrate saham akhirat la pulak
itnama
post Mar 28 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:51 AM)
kawan ko tu membina kabel.mmg orang bank atau mana2 orang buat loan akan diberikan sogokan sebegitu rupa.kadang2 belanja makan.kadang2 free service.tapi kalau orang tu berhenti kerja atau lompat company lain...mmg problem besar la.
mana yang loan besar...bagi la kereta sebijik. rclxms.gif
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dude, what kinda mentality is that?
itu bukan bina kabel, tu terang-terang bagi rasuah.
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Ovi @ Mar 28 2011, 12:54 AM)
saya makan gaji cukup la.. tak buat bisnes pon takpe
concentrate saham akhirat la pulak
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tengok pulak gaji ko berapa.pastu ko keje what company? public listing? or GLC company? if yes nothing to worried.just care of job only....aku kalau aku boleh terbalikkan masa mmg aku pilih makan gaji.pasal aku tau dan aku nampak niaga kat malaysia ni macam mana.but the truth is i am already in. already 5 years.start from nothing.dont know everything...if i am stop now i am most stupid person in on the earth.have knowldege and expereince but dont use.u thing what? aku belajar tinggi-tinggi sampai diploma ke? sijil? ...aku ada SPM je.itu pun nak masuk UITM tak lepas...aku masuk politeknik pun separuh jalan..apa aku nak buat? BUSSINESS!...aku target sampai aku ke tahap DISTRIBITOR not Retailer or Dealer.My primary directive is a MANUFACTURE.

I must finished what i have started. bruce.gif

This post has been edited by Futurewyatt: Mar 28 2011, 01:29 AM
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(itnama @ Mar 28 2011, 01:07 AM)
dude, what kinda mentality is that?
itu bukan bina kabel, tu terang-terang bagi rasuah.
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itu la realiti berniaga.yang memberi tu nak mengharapkan sesuatu.yang menerima tu kalau dia luluskan loan tu dia rugi apa? bukan duit dia.bukan kompeni dia.kalau dia ni mgm kaki suap...satu bulan ada 10 kes.satu kes 10% sekali kes minimum RM 30k loan...so kalau kantoi dia tak boleh lepas ke? setakat kena saman atau denda ingat pengawai yang makan rasuah tu tak boleh bayar? rclxms.gif kerja mati2 kat bank tu pun bukan dapat hasil macam tu.betul tak? rclxms.gif

tengok tu hari kes bank kena tipu RM 19 juta.konon bekal sparepart pada MIG29.bank pun bodoh rabun mata.kerja orang dalam.sekarnag ni dah lesap ntah kemana.siap boleh cakap alamat tak wujud....diorang siap reserved RM 9 juta pay installment pada bank...ingat orang yang terlibat tu tak tahu ke bende ni? kerja mati-mati 24 jam pun dengan bank tu ...bank dapat nama.habis yang kita kerja mati2 ni daapt apa? tongue.gif

itu pasal pecah amanah dan rasuah makin menjadi-jadi.Lesen MPS pun nak buat kena main undertable. doh.gif dulu aku perhati kes pecah amanah agak terhad.sekarang ni director ke akauntan ke.polis ke.bank ke hakim ke.semua terlibat. whistling.gif

ada member aku tu.ajak along(ceti haram) datang kedai.konon nak loan.belanja makan sampai RM 50.last-last phailed.because along need cagaran and not confident with shop and enviroment.

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post Mar 28 2011, 01:37 AM

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yeaaaay, matlamat menghalalkan cara
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Mar 27 2011, 11:13 PM)
perhaps maybe ur parents need to be guarantor for ur loan............why not approach Bank Rakyat or Bank Agro for this...........
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but they need my pay slip right?

QUOTE(TOROBO @ Mar 27 2011, 11:18 PM)
bump for more feedback.
goodluck ts.. :grin:
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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 12:11 AM)
oh kau nak bukak kafe? aku nak jadik pengimport barang komputer. brows.gif tapikan ikut pengalaman aku.insyallah minggu ni atau depan sampai.kita sekapal bro-dua2 takde modal pastu dua2 still new dalam bussiness. notworthy.gif

1)TEKUN-Susah nak @#$$%% ada ke patut modal starter pada orang nak jual kuih kat rumah? (ni kes ramai orang pinjam tak bayar balik)

2)Koperasi-Ni kena join dulu.ada yuran ada bla bla bla.

3)SME bank-yang ni apa punya pelik.loan 25k dia tak terima.semua nak loan atas 25k. rclxub.gif pastu diorang ada Starter edition.ada Micro Edition.ko kena prepared kertas kerja.

4)PUNB-Khas utk Bumiputera.KONONYA pemilik niaga kena sediakan 10% modal terlebih dahulu.pun kena kertas kerja.

apa2hal sekarang ni bro.sebut pasal NEW BUSSINESS sahaja sebut la bank atau agensi2 kerajaan ko bumiputera ke ko nonbumi ke mmg susah! diroang tak yakin dengan orang yang baru nak mulakan niaga.(ramai yang pinjam pastu liat@tak boleh nak bayar balik)nama kompeni pun ENTERPRISE....kalau kompeni SDNBHD pastu ko bayar incometax proses tu agak senang.

mind share ko punya Hp/komputer bussiness?
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yep..dulu aku buat dekat rumah je mcm style si hanief..sapa2 nk order lappy,hp or pc aku antarkan..n aku bleh btulkan skali,pernah terfikir aku nak bukak kedai pc sendiri..tapi aku lagi yakin nk bukak kedai makan


QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Mar 28 2011, 12:22 AM)
try ask from TEKUN?
last time my dad bukak bisnes but sell of that bisnes to frens because cant tahan work with no cuti.

but he just take loan around 10k maybe?

and yes, try collect as many contact for sng nak kembangkan bisnes. wink.gif
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tekun?i will check the website later...yes...kena ada ramai kenalan bru sng


QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Mar 28 2011, 12:44 AM)
ask parents buat microcredit loan?
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microcredit loan?sorry haha x faham
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM

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setiap kali aku tengok post ko dan avatar ko, aku rasa memang sangat sesuai
user posted image

ye la duit kopi sana sini. nanti rezeki banyak mana pun rasa tak cukup.
yang memberi, yang menerima; sama saja.

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sorry fetrz, din mean to hijack ur thread, but i cant resist to reply him

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post Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:17 AM)
itu la realiti berniaga.yang memberi tu nak mengharapkan sesuatu.yang menerima tu kalau dia luluskan loan tu dia rugi apa? bukan duit dia.bukan kompeni dia.kalau dia ni mgm kaki suap...satu bulan ada 10 kes.satu kes 10% sekali kes minimum RM 30k loan...so kalau kantoi dia tak boleh lepas ke? setakat kena saman atau denda ingat pengawai yang makan rasuah tu tak boleh bayar? rclxms.gif kerja mati2 kat bank tu pun bukan dapat hasil macam tu.betul tak? rclxms.gif

tengok tu hari kes bank kena tipu RM 19 juta.konon bekal sparepart pada MIG29.bank pun bodoh rabun mata.kerja orang dalam.sekarnag ni dah lesap ntah kemana.siap boleh cakap alamat tak wujud....diorang siap reserved RM 9 juta pay installment pada bank...ingat orang yang terlibat tu tak tahu ke bende ni? kerja mati-mati 24 jam pun dengan bank tu ...bank dapat nama.habis yang kita kerja mati2 ni daapt apa?  tongue.gif 

itu pasal pecah amanah dan rasuah makin menjadi-jadi.Lesen MPS pun nak buat kena main undertable. doh.gif dulu aku perhati kes pecah amanah agak terhad.sekarang ni director ke akauntan ke.polis ke.bank ke hakim ke.semua terlibat. whistling.gif

ada member aku tu.ajak along(ceti haram) datang kedai.konon nak loan.belanja makan sampai RM 50.last-last phailed.because along need cagaran and not confident with shop and enviroment.
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xpa sekurang2nya kau da nampak dunia perniagaan mcm mana...aku dulu buat niaga hp dgn pc kecil-kecilan pun kena makan dengan member baik sendiri...dah la aku tolong dia...belakang aku duk tikam dgn kutok aku lagi..sampai skrg aku susah nak percaya org tmasuklah adik bradik aku sendiri
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QUOTE(cekpo @ Mar 28 2011, 01:37 AM)
yeaaaay, matlamat menghalalkan cara
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bribe bumpiputera lain.bribe nonbumi lain.3 kali kena serbu rilek je.GRO,judi.rumah urut etc etc.

btw..tak salah aku ada pinjaman utk belia.tak tahu sekarang still exist atau tidak.....satu lagi pinjaman mikro from selected bank...tapi yang ni kelayakan kena 3 tahun.pastu turnoever setahun kena berapa ntah...ingat jual apa? dadah ke? mad.gif
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try punb program. 6 months of training
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:49 AM

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bagi aku kat dunia nih dalam apa bidang skalipun,kalau kau minat dan rajin usaha n tawakal insyaAllah..DIA slalu dgn kita...dan slalu ingat harta n duit yg kita ada tu bukannya 100% milik kita..
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post Mar 28 2011, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM)
bribe bumpiputera lain.bribe nonbumi lain.3 kali kena serbu rilek je.GRO,judi.rumah urut etc etc.

btw..tak salah aku ada pinjaman utk belia.tak tahu sekarang still exist atau tidak.....satu lagi pinjaman mikro from selected bank...tapi yang ni kelayakan kena 3 tahun.pastu turnoever setahun kena berapa ntah...ingat jual apa? dadah ke? mad.gif
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brg pc yg kau bli dari kapal tu,brg apa?cerita lah skit..
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 01:46 AM)
xpa sekurang2nya kau da nampak dunia perniagaan mcm mana...aku dulu buat niaga hp dgn pc kecil-kecilan pun kena makan dengan member baik sendiri...dah la aku tolong dia...belakang aku duk tikam dgn kutok aku lagi..sampai skrg aku susah nak percaya org tmasuklah adik bradik aku sendiri
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ni kes tarik kustomer masuk poket sendiri la ni.pastu duit service tu pergi kat dia.gaji dapat.duit luar pun dapat.golongan macam ni tak boleh tengok duit banyak depan mata.nanti dia jadik rabun mata. mad.gif
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 01:50 AM)
brg pc yg kau bli dari kapal tu,brg apa?cerita lah skit..
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nanti aku PM ko.tak berapa `sesuai` cerita kat sini.
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QUOTE(manBREASTer @ Mar 28 2011, 01:48 AM)
try punb program. 6 months of training
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thanks bro..nanti aku check smile.gif
QUOTE(Futurewyatt @ Mar 28 2011, 01:51 AM)
ni kes tarik kustomer masuk poket sendiri la ni.pastu duit service tu pergi kat dia.gaji dapat.duit luar pun dapat.golongan macam ni tak boleh tengok duit banyak depan mata.nanti dia jadik rabun mata. mad.gif
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aku xkisah pun kalau dia nak niaga pc n hp sendiri,tapi sekurang2nya bagitawlah aku dulu..semua ilmu pasal benda tu awal2 dia zero..bila aku ajar barulah bijak skit..tapi bila da bijak..kepala aku plak kena pijak..dahla kena pijak..nama aku duk dia buruk2kan
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smoga berjaya
aku pun nk bukak bisnes nanti
bukan ada skim graduan ke untuk student ?
cube check...
and nanti jgn kaya nanti..terus lupa diri
solat tinggal..buat maksiat.. memang tak berkat smile.gif
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QUOTE(fertzpatrick @ Mar 28 2011, 01:56 AM)
thanks bro..nanti aku check smile.gif
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the good thing is, you can learn some lessons from the experienced sifu one
you will be assigned to work at previous trainee's company (now tokey already), and be taught of the business strategy, hands on rclxms.gif

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