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ellimistx99
post Apr 4 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 4 2011, 07:09 PM)
Everything was remove. Only left the essential drivers/program
Reformated, ran WPT and defrag using Windows and another program. Incase your wondering....before defragment this problem already occurred.
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Now, when you say you reformatted, do you mean with the restore CD that includes all the bloatware? Or like a proper stock restore CD?

The best thing is to do a complete wipe, get a copy of Windows 7 of the same version you have now, then use the CD-key you have from ASUS that way it's legal and install a complete fresh wipe. That usually fixes everything.

Note: Don't have this N53SN laptop... too poor sad.gif
ellimistx99
post Apr 4 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 4 2011, 09:59 PM)
No they dun cause their screen is not 3D supported but the GPU is


Added on April 4, 2011, 9:02 pm
When you reformat using the hidden partition or CD there will still be bloatwares

Why must I get a copy of Windows 7, its a bloody waste of money. I already have this and I just need to delete some stuff after reformat.
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LOL you misunderstand me. Don't reformat using the hidden partition or CD. And you don't need to BUY a copy of windows 7. Just can use pirate version, and then when you use the CD-Key on the bottom of your ASUS it will be legal version brows.gif .

When you do a clean format with an original(pirated) OEM Windows 7 CD, there is NO bloatware, i.e. it never get's installed, never hit's the registry and never causes bit-rot. It seriously is the best thing to do. It is a completely different thing from the "restore cd", which IMHO, is total and utter crap. Hunting for driver may be a pain, but trust me it's worth it!

Also, if you feel icky about getting a pirated version (even though it's ok as long as you use the ASUS cd-key). You can ask ASUS to send you a copy of Windows 7. Since when you buy your laptop it comes with it anyway. I'm not sure about Malaysia but I know in the US the company doesn't mind sending it over.

Give that a shot. Install all your driver's, firefox/chrome, and nothing else. Check your boot time then, it will be super fast!
ellimistx99
post Apr 4 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 4 2011, 10:57 PM)
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The Serial number can only be used for your windows in your partition. Thats why when the partition is accidently deleted, have to contact microsoft to make the Serial valid for another windows.
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I don't think that's true. At least from the days of Vista/XP I remember as long as you got a newer OEM than your laptop it'd be fine and would work. Either way, you can call ASUS and get a clean (bloatware free) CD if windows 7 and it will work.

But my point remains the same. Do a CLEAN install from a CLEAN windows CD and it will make a world of difference.
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post Apr 4 2011, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 4 2011, 11:08 PM)
shocking.gif  they provide a free CD or have to pay for it.......

Btw do you know even if you did a clean install, you still have to install the same driver which in the 1st place cause the same problems. My prob is not really bout the boot up time or lagging during normal use. My prob is when after waking up from hibernation, everything starts to lag and im suspecting it might be due to one of windows new update...
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They should provide it free.

About the lagging, that will be taken care of too, could be a combination of apps, antivirus, registry issues, improper un-installation, anything could cause the hibernate issues.

If it's really bothering you what you can do is, Clean Format, Install Firefox or Chrome, Install JUST your drivers (don't do windows update), and then create a restore point or an image. Then hibernate, shutdown whatever and do your tests. Then install updates. If the same issue happens, you know it's the updates. If the updates are okay, then create restore point and create a backup image again.


Then start installing your games and msn and whatever else crap you want. This way you know EXACTLY what has been installed/uninstalled.


Side note: Just use Microsoft Security Essentials as your A/V it's more than good enough, don't get any other one.

This post has been edited by ellimistx99: Apr 4 2011, 10:14 PM
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post Apr 4 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 4 2011, 11:24 PM)
They should or they will???
Your solution might seriously work...but it all comes down to this....where are you gonna get a Windows 7 that will be unlock with a diff serial number. I don't want my HDD to be lock cause of this like Springfall
Unless i could get a Windows 7 CD from ASUS FOC then I will definitely follow your solution when I have time

Btw i have doubts with Microsoft's AV after they bought MacAfee aka Garbage
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Can try to call them and see what they say, I'm not entirely sure, never try in Malaysia. My school provides me with free Windows 7 pro so I use that for the clean format. Get a pirated one maybe? This is Msia after all *shrugs*. Either way can't beat a clean install, which is the point I was trying to make !!

It's what I've been doing for years. First thing I do when I get a laptop, backup the drivers and then CLEAN format.


I remember when Microsoft's AV came out they were number 3 over all for that year. The other top two were paid solutions. They ranked number 1 with the least false positives. So yea, they are pretty good. I dunno how they rank now, should check av-comparatives (I think thats the site).


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post Apr 5 2011, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(springfall @ Apr 5 2011, 12:35 AM)
damm... which school u go.. win7 pro??!!
clean install? well if u manage a clean install with ur oem then bravo rclxms.gif  i dunno but i nvr like the idea of wiping my hdd many times
like they say each hdd got lifespan of read writes.. after that the sections cannot be used aka dead , when all turn dead, ur hdd confirm dead..
unless u use ssd then i would say reformatting keep to minimum cuz chances of writing's over the same hdd disk is higher than putting file in diffrent disk layers.
drivers, after clean install, put em carefully or u end up same probs as be4 lol.. i remember unistalling asus bloates, 1 click and all drives n bloats are put back into the hdd-back to square 1.. hence reformat again in ur case and more section are dying..

fake windows? no i dun like them.. some updates will kill ur comp cuz itz not real and windows will lock u..
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Everytime you install, download, uninstall, or delete it reads and then writes to a sector. Formatting writing everything to 0's or 1's. So in the end really doesn't make a difference on formatting. Doesn't degrade the life. I reformat every semester or at least once a year. Only thing that ever causes HD troubles is overheating due to gaming laugh.gif

I know some people who have fake windows, they have all the latest updates and never ran into any issue. So I suppose it depends on how smart you are.


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post Apr 5 2011, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(springfall @ Apr 5 2011, 01:19 AM)
it depends u know i'm using lala land's for 4 years ardy soo far 2 updates will wreck havoc but still there is always some hidden danger lurking when u update.. lets say u accidentaly update when ur assigment due 2morrow. then sure die.. probability is low but it do happen.
if formatting 0 n 1 as u say, do explain the wear n tear on disk drives, juz visit any office with it service man reformatting comps every time he stumbles a prob. u can c that it will contribute to a mountain of HDD written fail unknown issue. and itz not seagate, samsung wd tosh u name it.. all will wear even without gaming, so long u exceed, ur hdd may unexpectedly fail. gaming? do offices do gaming.
if u wan further explanation, go buy 1 portable fan, no a notebook cooler from CM will even tell u that itz fan has a life cycle of how many spins/hours
all machines will fail and the disks arnt perfect. machine head accidentally hitting the disk cause bad sectors are inevitable. u think reformatting destroys bad sectors? no way..  permanent damage is done deal. no recovery options.go read HHD life cycle.
as mention ssd u can reformat crazy amount of times is that the wear level is soo low that even u keep reformatting n writting stuff u will hav 2 w8 till u r 50+ years old be4 u c damage.

plz install a software n check ur current hhd wear level, bad sectors corrupted sectors etc
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Haha I'm not going to comment too much more about pirated windows, but suffice it to say, "my friends" have never ran into any update problems, of that I am sure.

Dont get me wrong I agree with you, constant read or write does mess up HD, and formatting doesn't recover bad sectors. I'm just saying that formatting the hard drive doesn't do any more damage than normal everyday use. Or at least it doesn't in my experience.
Unfortunately I'm still in school so I can't comment on office use. But heat definitely does make an issue on hard drives, like all computer components.

Regardless, this is off topic. Doing a clean format 5, 10 times isn't going to hurt your hard drive in the long term. A clean format will probably solve all your hibernate / startup issues. Try it
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post Apr 16 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Trance4eva @ Apr 16 2011, 11:23 PM)
Should i get a U2 fan my laptop??? hmm.gif
Guys do u recommend U2 or other cooler better since the vent is at the bottom
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I have a U2, I love it!

 

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