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post Dec 26 2005, 07:49 PM

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got any difference in temps for only using battery water without extra additives like car radiator coolant?
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post Dec 27 2005, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 12:45 PM)
well, from prior experience.. with automotive additives temps are higher about 1~1.5 C... bear in mind that automotive additives are meant for anti-rust, anti-boil and anti freeze... it will of course effect the liquid properties in terms of viscocity, specific heat cap., etc... the list goes on and on..
like I said.. uzai is goin big time with his next project, ordered a Storm G4 block, cant wait, cant wait.. unlike us still using our 486DX rig  sweat.gif
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cheyh... 486DX konon... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

hurm.... i guess might be pumping out my current coolant right now and replace with distilled water...

distilled water = ~~ RO water mesin tepi kedai (20 sen per liter) issit?
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post Dec 28 2005, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 09:41 PM)
RO water???? what's R. O. stand for?  Rip Off?

Distilled water is pure demineralized water which means it's pure H20 without any nutrients(which not good for drinking). It's a bit expensive last time I've got it about RM12 per 4 gallon bottle.

Mebbe the "mesin tepi kedai" Rip Off water is filltered water, check wheter it got UV bathing filtered, if got than  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif you're good to go mebbe i'll try it myself 20sen per litter... hrmm ....

uzairi@  YEAH!!!! Long live the 486DX clan thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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nanti wa kasi check mesin tu got UV bathing filtered or not...hehe drool.gif
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:16 PM

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bro amok : what type of coolant u used there?

and btw...i know this thing have been discussed in the previous post...but just wanna ask again...

which is more better flow in here? : --->

Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir

or

Pump -> CPU -> Radiator - > Reservoir
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post Jan 4 2006, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 4 2006, 04:41 PM)
@moderno : If u have a powerfull pumps like the MCP series  flex.gif  then u can opt for the Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir since this setup would kill the pump's preassure. The other way round with those generic pumps u might as well choose the  Pump -> CPU -> Radiator - > Reservoir
configuration to prevent preassure loss.  rolleyes.gif
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but asetek do recommend Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir for the Hydor L02 series pump there...... camana pulak ek.. doh.gif
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post Jan 6 2006, 03:16 PM

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i'm pretty interested in getting Black Ice Pro III Fang is selling right now...

just wanna ask gurus² here if my asetek Hydor L20 700/hr pump got enough power to squeeze the water through the tripled 120mm rad? blink.gif

but i personally think the pressure might be not be sufficient, coz asetek using Hydor L30 1200l/hr for tripple rad there..... but just like to hear everyone opinion first... biggrin.gif

if can fit i hope can used 3x low dB fan to replace my current 38db 120mm fan here.. wink.gif

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post Jan 6 2006, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 6 2006, 07:33 PM)
Dude, when ur going triple row, it's best you go for the highest headpressure rated pump as the resistance would be too great for the poor L20 in the first place I assure you.
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bai bai triple row wave.gif wave.gif ... papa stick with the single one..huhuhu...poor my L20.. uhuk uhuk
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post Jan 14 2006, 11:10 PM

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My Asetek Hydor L20 pump just "kaput" this evening due to lightning doh.gif

my A64 now shoot up to 92c...giler aahh cry.gif

Anybody want to offer any pumps that match 10mm / 3/8" size tubing?
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post Jan 15 2006, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(amok @ Jan 14 2006, 11:22 PM)
Hydor L20 = Nirox P2800.. RM 28.00 kedai ikan...
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mana punya kedai ikan boleh dapat ek?

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post Jan 15 2006, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Jan 15 2006, 02:03 AM)
I bought my p2800 nirox @ kedai ikan in SS14 the one near caltex.
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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif .... alamak ahad mesti tutup doh.gif

QUOTE(ianho @ Jan 15 2006, 08:41 AM)
If u want good solid reliability without worrying then get an Eheim pump.
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got one shop at SS19 selling eheim at RM 495...but i dunno which model loh sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2006, 12:42 AM

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oledi got the Nirox P2800 at ikan shopt SS14 near caltex there biggrin.gif

thanks @TJye for showing me the places smile.gif

funny la the auntie there...when i asked her u got Nirox P2800 or not...then she replied...u wanna use for ur computer aaa?....ahahaha

anyway, d@mn asetek using Nirox Pump and relabeling it as Hydor L20....99.99% the same loh... minus the converter to 12v there...
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post Jan 16 2006, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(emilz @ Jan 16 2006, 04:39 AM)
wah i tout u ar chinese
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nama Pak Sheikh lagi tu tongue.gif

En. Antonio : ---> where's the shop located that selling all those barbs and connectors u're telling me that night ek?...

wanna change all my connectors loh.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2006, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jan 16 2006, 02:33 PM)
I think you can get barbs from any hardware shops.
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thanks bro...will search around later... ACE Hardware think got ek?

QUOTE(amok @ Jan 16 2006, 03:09 PM)
Aeroplane brand.. , of course can use if the right size... quality wise though, errrrr.. sweat.gif tight bends are no no..
wah that auntie oso in watercooling meh? thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  you should tell that auntie to join the forum laugh.gif

laugh.gif ya right dem Hydor for immitating the Nirox pump, should design their own, and lower the price tag,...  whistling.gif  whistling.gif .. errrr. ... or is it the other way around  whistling.gif  whistling.gif ..  (j/k oni.. please do not confused  who's immitating who)
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bro @amok : soalan bercita-cita tinggi sket tongue.gif

- since i've change to nirox p2800 there...think can support triple rad BIX 3?... provide that the nirox pump running slight greater Q than hydor L20 lah.. coz see the backlabel stated 1100 l/hr compare to Hydor 700l/hr... if same specs better for me sticking with the single rad right now.. huhu...

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post Jan 16 2006, 03:44 PM

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hurm..macam best jerk experiment nih...

so how's the configuration if putting 2 x nirox in the loop there?... 2 x nirox pump back to back before radiator?

nirox (1) --> nirox (2) ---> radiator ---> cpu ----> reservoir

nirox (1) --> radiator ---> nirox (2) --> cpu ---> reservoir

sorry if ala-ala noobie sket tongue.gif
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post Jan 18 2006, 02:12 PM

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today my nirox p2800 sound kinda irritating oledi.... it's sound trrrrreeetttt treeetttttt as the propeller sangkut with something inside there... i think i glued the inlet section there not correctly lah...waduhh..

anybody got nice working pumps + BiX II pro wanna sell?...
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post Jan 19 2006, 09:54 AM

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i'm gonna gone mad later if this bugging pumps problem keeps irritating me and wetting all over my table with water...waduhhhh cry.gif cry.gif

last night i try replacing the nirox there with asetek hydor one which i believe was faulty due to lightning strikes on last saturday....i cut the power cable that connected to the 240v - 12v converter (device control) supplied together and connected it back with a direct 220~240v cable... and surprisingly it works drool.gif ...so the culprit for all this day is not the pump, just the converter device there doh.gif

but i have some problems in making the pumps suck some waters from the reservoir to proceed into the loop...as it's only sucking on bl@@dy air's inside it..i try to shake the pump and reservoir off but still cannot make the water go trough...waduhh.... sad.gif

all i was hoping now only to get a nice working pumps... sweat.gif sweat.gif so tired oledi after 2 days wetting all my hands in getting these pumps working correctly..

if i'm getting my self an Eheim 1048, do i need to do some minor mods to the pumps apart from changing the barbs? arghh tensi tensi.. cry.gif
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post Jan 19 2006, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Jan 19 2006, 10:25 AM)
Have u put some sealant at input/output Nirox Pump? flex.gif
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dah letak...tp bila part attached & re-attached all the tubes prior to try & error method of changing these pumps make it all wet..aduh...

cannot stand the sound of gruggling like hell from the nirox pump there...then using the hydor back...cannot suck the water through pulak...waduhh doh.gif doh.gif

anybody know got any ikan shop in PJ area selling this Eheim 1048 pump?...
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post Jan 19 2006, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 19 2006, 12:09 PM)
Firstly, ur connectors too tight isit? If too tight also the water vacumm edi la. I remember kena this problem when reassembling for my friend his Air Besar. Had to unhook one pipe to let water flow thru. Secondly, is the pump really pumping or not? Best way to test is to rendam it inside a pail and flick the switch. If got air pancut then working la
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the connectors using the asetek push-fit one.... i've tried rendam it inside the pail and got water pancut and coming oledi...but when attached it to the system and pour some coolant into the reservoir...the pumps seems like only pumping air through the loops...

i'm thinking of tilting the pump with the reservoir outlet on top of the pump inlet there..hope gravity will do me some goods in helping the propeller jump start with some waters in it...

bro @amok : is the eheim 1048 barbs can be unscrewed and change to my 10mm barbs?...coz see the eheim specs come 1/2" bards as standards...and newb question here... can eheim 1048 enough to push through triple rad... laugh.gif

pump rosak pun tak sedar diri lagi nak pakai triple rad..hahaha tongue.gif
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post Jan 19 2006, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 19 2006, 03:33 PM)
Means kena air lock edi laa fren. Unhook one end of the loop so that water can flow freely then should work out then. And for the eheim pump, see if the threadings allow for ur barbs mounting or not? If cannot then cannot loh. Same for us Nirox users maa. And 1048? Not worth looking at for triple row core usages if mau OC. Bole jalan mmg bole jalan. si sapik78 used to do that on his rig. But better to look at the 1250, D4's or the 50Z if u want serious power. Or check amok's budget pump shoot out review in the stickies.
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ya loh bro...i think kena air lock lah there...will try it out later...hopefully everything will be okey lah after this...waduh.. sweat.gif doh.gif

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post Mar 21 2006, 02:18 AM

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i can try look for Nirox P2800 pump from ikan shop here at subang...

bought once for rm35 there...dunno if they still got it or not tongue.gif

d@mn funny la that auntie...the moment i asked her wheather she got nirox p2800 or not....straight away she asked me back....

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