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Shah81
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Apr 30 2006, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ Apr 29 2006, 11:53 PM) erm..actually im selling my whole Syscooling set to convert to a 1/2" system... juz bought a DD Maze 4 from BroJason... now looking for a good but cheap radiator..anyine here has any idea?  why dont u ask MetalZone....he's doing a bulk on watercooling components. i guess the cheapest one would be the Swiftech MCR120-QP = RM180.
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Shah81
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Apr 30 2006, 03:06 AM
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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ Apr 30 2006, 12:16 AM) but its stated there in his bulk order tat the rad can fit 3/8" onli...not recommended for 1/2" system...   ...didnt notice that. then you should asked MetalZone laa. maybe he has some recommendation for you.... hello watercooling sifus, someone need help here btw what is your budget for the radiator? that should help when people try to recomend you a rad.
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Shah81
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Apr 30 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Apr 30 2006, 05:53 PM) if using nirox p2800 can use pump----> radiator----->waterblock setup??? i think with syscooling kit you can use either setup. i've tested both setup with mine (with Nirox P2800 too) and dont see any difference between the two setup. i think the syscooling kit is a very non-restirctive type. it all comes down to the placement of your components. the way i mount my radiator and pumps, i have to use the pump---->waterblock-----> radiator----->reservoir-----> pump to use the other options, i have to lengthen the tubings too much and i think that will hurt its performance
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Shah81
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Apr 30 2006, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Apr 30 2006, 07:01 PM) lichyetan : Maybe u can try both setup and see which is the best ? yeah lichyetan, why dont u try both setup and report back here with your result since your setup is almost identical to mine. oh btw....i'm also using a zip-tie to secure my tubings. you can get away with zip-tie on the pump and radiator but make sure you use zip-ties on all blocks. the syscooling blocks have a very short barbs. the tubings have a very limited space to grab on.
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Shah81
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May 1 2006, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 1 2006, 12:50 AM) can get away with zip ties??? sry i dun understand, u mean using zip ties on pump and radiator or not neccasary to use on those 2 but a must for waterblock...???  yes...you may choose not to use zip-ties on the pump and radiator. but for the waterblock, i highly recomend that u use a zip-ties because the barbs is very short. but to keep it safe, just use zip-ties on all connections. zip-ties are cheap
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Shah81
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May 1 2006, 11:37 PM
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Shah81
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May 2 2006, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ May 2 2006, 12:42 AM) Walao eh, nice la. Ur fan connect with ur relay? Haih, thinking want to back watercooling. thanks. the fan is connected to a molex
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Shah81
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May 3 2006, 11:24 PM
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Shah81
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May 4 2006, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 4 2006, 07:47 PM) nirox pump leaking, how to fix??? need help... urgent!!!!!  where??? at the impeller right??? if thats the case you need to epoxy it back together.
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Shah81
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May 4 2006, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ May 4 2006, 05:27 PM) shah@ good mod bro, keep um coming.. try modding a resevoir from glade's car freshner refil tube like zahri's and add bling-bling sikit... (leds, fans, etc.) i have a mega project coming. i'm thinking of modding my syscooling kit to 1/2" ID barbs  i'll change the top of my cpu block with thick acrylic and bolt-in a 1/2" barbs. but it's still under consideration. dunno will proceed or not.
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Shah81
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May 4 2006, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(lactose_operon @ May 4 2006, 10:50 PM) IMO better find another wb tat edy comes with 1/2" fittings... so tat less work n better perfomance oohhh...thats not fun. modding and DIYing is much more fun.... i like to DIY and if i choose to do this, it will be my 2nd home made block. my first DIY block was made from a heatsink for my Athlon thunderbird (long time ago) and it uses a bong instead of radiator. and you wont know how it will perform unitl you build one and test it right
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Shah81
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May 5 2006, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ May 5 2006, 12:05 AM) Shah, the best material to mess with IMHO is still Delrin if you can get a hold of it. Acrylic plain cracks too easily if you're not careful tapping the holes out but what if i use a thick acrylic like 10mm thickness. is that enough. i dunno where to get Delrin or how it looks like. maybe if i go and ask in hardware shop, they will " geleng kepala" too...hehehe QUOTE(zhiyuan @ May 5 2006, 01:01 AM) ngbh PM full again ... if you reading this... pm me pls! btw guys... is prescott 478 slot 3.0E on load at 72 consider normal ah ? omg...that chip is H0T keep it under 60 with default heatsink and i dont think ngbh will ever see this.
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Shah81
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May 5 2006, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ May 5 2006, 02:54 AM) shah81 kalo nak rough idea how Delrin looks like, check out the Swiftech Storm's and Apogeee's top. That's delrin ya i know Storm and Apogee use Delrin. but what i mean is i dont how it looks like in raw condition. i thought that Delrin came in liquid form and you poured it into a moulding and get the shape that you want.....
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Shah81
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May 5 2006, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ May 5 2006, 07:27 PM) BTW, i'd like to know... how many people are interested in Zerex/Valvoline Racing Super Coolant? does the coolant improves your temperature?? who hooo.....for the price of that Acetal, i better buy myself an Apogee.... This post has been edited by Shah81: May 5 2006, 08:19 PM
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Shah81
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May 7 2006, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 7 2006, 01:52 PM) sealed my nirox pump leaking place wif epoxy and back on running, but the performance of my wc kit almost same with old pump...  nice to hear that. most likely you wont notice any peformance increase. the head pressure of the pump is already killed by the 1/4" tubings. you will probably see more improvement if you swap the fan on the radiator with a higher CFM fan...try the 100+CFM. i tried it once with a 110CFM fan and i got some nice temp....but the sound of the fan made me swap back to NMB 80CFM fan. i have a very sensitive ears
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Shah81
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May 10 2006, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ May 9 2006, 07:53 PM) i currently using nirox pump, if i upgrade my current wc kit which is 1/4" ID tubings to settings looks alike the thermaltake bigwater 745, which is 3/8" ID tubings, can my wc kit on par with it??? any suggestion on running dual radiator with 1x120mm fan and another radiator with 2x 120mm fans??? how should the cycles goes??? Big Water 745this is my suggestion: use 2 different loop, the reason is your current loop is too restrictive because of the 1/4" tubings. so let the first loop stay as it is. pump_1---->radiator_1---->water block---->reservoir---->pump_1 (loop_1)pump_2---->radiator_2---->reservoir---->pump_2 (loop_2)the second loop will further cool the water in the reservoir. so you'll only need one reservoir. you have to mod your reservoir to dual input and output. the second loop can use 1/2" tubings. so when the time comes for you to upgrade your water block, you already have a 1/2" loop in hand.
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Shah81
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May 11 2006, 05:42 PM
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yeah the pump vibrates alot. i use 2 layers of sponge (the one that came with your mobo) to cushion the pump. before, the whole casing vibrates...now no more "goncang".
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Shah81
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May 15 2006, 04:00 PM
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yo MetalZone...maybe you can source some lower cost high hmax pump like the Cyber Aqua CA4700 the one in amok's pump shoot-out. this pump have a 3m hmax and should be suitable for Storm i guess.
This post has been edited by Shah81: May 15 2006, 04:00 PM
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Shah81
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May 17 2006, 09:44 PM
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wah....nice mod there ianho QUOTE(MetalZone @ May 17 2006, 09:27 PM) how thick acrylic is that? and what did u use to cut it (particularly the centre part)? milling machine? dremel with grinder? the acrlic is 5mm thick and he use a jigsaw + dremel to cut it. more info HERE
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Shah81
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May 18 2006, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(zahri @ May 18 2006, 07:04 AM) Does anyone here know ? the best acrylic size to make a drive bay reservoir ?? i think 5mm should be enough i guess. thinner acrylic might be susceptible to cracks at the barb holes area due to the pressure of the tubing.
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