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post Mar 26 2011, 05:40 PM, updated 15y ago

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Venture capital is still an emerging industry in Malaysia.
We rarely heard people and friends around us in venture capital.
Venture capital in Malaysia are mostly funded by government to nurture SME so that we are too dependent to FDI.
Venture capital is a big industry in US. Surprisingly India and China has quite a lot of venture capital firms as the innovation and entrepreneurship in these countries are good.

Any one here is working for Cradle fund, MTDC or MAVCAP. Share your opinion of these industry and insights here. I believe many fresh grads will want to know more. I think Private fund is the next step for those in the venture capital as the salary is really low compare to Private fund.


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post Mar 26 2011, 11:38 PM

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post Mar 27 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(prole @ Mar 26 2011, 11:38 PM)
In US, VCs always interested in forseen profit-making startup companies like Groupon, Zinga etc.

In Malaysia, our VCs seems are more interested towards loss-making legacy companies and thinking of how to turn it into profit making... I can say 7 out of 10 legacy cos. here having messy financial structures and problematic management viabilities.

At MAVCAP annual dinner last night, I just noticed that there was 1000+ VCs in India. That is huge man I mean if we compare to our local market i.e less than hundred PEVCs. According to that India fella, they still need more funds flow-in to India to support the boom-growing India economy.

I think we need to focus more on talented startups rather than putting effort to transform loss-making legacy companies into 'profitable' entities. This just my personal thoughs by the way. rolleyes.gif
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U r in VC or in MAVCAP?
yupe, not juz india, China as well.
Our neighbour Singapore also started to get more ppl in VC and they focus not juz sg but China and SEA
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post Mar 27 2011, 07:01 PM

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Cradle is not a VC. It's a seed provider. Anyone who can demonstrate to have met the requirements can get some funding. Of course, things get harder as you go on.

Cradle is motivated by development. Giving a chance to entrepreneurs who normally wouldn't have. That said, they are not driven entirely by profits. The VC scene is not that active here because our innovation output is considered very low. There's no real demand for VC funding, when I say that I mean, there are not many ideas that might be profitable. Think about it, since when does our society encourage creativity and risk-taking? We are users of technology than pioneers of technology.


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post Mar 27 2011, 10:03 PM

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Private equity is generally divided into:

- venture/seed capital
- growth capital
- leveraged buyouts

Yes Malaysia seems to be far more in the latter category than others. I have to agree with feynman up there that Malaysian entrepreneurs are seem to be happier copying off a good idea rather than coming up with a better idea of their own. There are two laundry stores next to each other in my neighborhood and their only competitive advantage is who can give better rates on their hastily hand written signs in front of each store. Couldn't the second laundry owner be a bit more original? biggrin.gif

Getting back to the point. If you're interested in entrepreneurship, venture or seed capital there are plenty of opportunities there but as chgchksg128 pointed out salaries are low. To be perfectly frank there are very few opportunities for fresh grads if all they want to do is makan gaji.

One level up in growth capital there is for example Navis Capital and a few others. Private equity is not an easy industry to get in unless you're from some top management consulting company or the like though.

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post Mar 28 2011, 05:13 PM

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@tishaban
what is growth capital company in Malaysia beside Navis?
what is their startegy differnt with VC and PE?

VC paid is RM1800 for fresh grads and after 5 years or so, you may get RM4k. I do not know of the top management in VC, mayb top managemnet paid is much higher. Furthermore, I believe the paid in VC (outside malaysia such as hk, CHina and sg) is much higher as they need toa nswer the profit and lost. Those gov funded will not need to care of profit and lost.


Added on March 28, 2011, 5:18 pmsome info of Navis cap, those analyst were mostly getting thier education in UK, US or Aus. Those uni were hard to get in

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post Apr 4 2011, 10:04 PM

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Navis is a local private equity company.
They have present in HK, Thailand,India, Aus and Singapore.

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post Apr 5 2011, 07:57 PM

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I got an interview with MDV a VC arm of the Finance Minstry. Turned it down coz it looks like they are only there to bail out com with "substantial interest"
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post Apr 5 2011, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Apr 5 2011, 07:57 PM)
I got an interview with MDV a VC arm of the Finance Minstry. Turned it down coz it looks like they are only there to bail out com with "substantial interest"
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U didn't make the interview at all?
I am not sure of the MDV (malaysia Debt venture) paid I belive it will not much diffrent from MAVCAP.
why did you said they are bailing out certain comp?
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post Apr 17 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(andyhui @ Apr 5 2011, 09:27 PM)
U didn't make the interview at all?
I am not sure of the MDV (malaysia Debt venture) paid I belive it will not much diffrent from MAVCAP.
why did you said they are bailing out certain comp?
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Burger Kings comes to mind, they have been trying to turn it around since 5 years ago. Startups will find it tougher to get funding in though.
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post Apr 18 2011, 08:12 AM

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Very textbook driven argument.

Vc is none other than a vehicle with a higher risk appetite and greater focus on long term strategy. Hence, their sponsors are prepared for the illiquidity.
The ultimate problem in msia is the market size forthe funding.


Added on April 18, 2011, 8:14 amImagine a 2 bn buyout deal. And there are 10players. How on earth will the market size of msia prepare for a 20bn credit facility commitment.


Added on April 18, 2011, 8:17 amIn short a liquidity seizure.

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post Apr 18 2011, 02:58 PM

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are u sure they r ppl who fork out 20bn for a project start up?
20mil is consider a large amount for start up.
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The gist of my point is insufficient liquidity. The Capital market is shared and not solely yours. If barclays commit 200mn facility to you it can't commit another 200 for another player. That is the perspective.
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post Apr 19 2011, 12:17 PM

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Most of VCs in Malaysia are private VC, and they usually a small group of people with a lot of money. Since they are small(and use their own money), they would prefer to find startups themselves, analyze them and make decision themselves. Unless you are working with multinational VC, I don't think they can afford higher salary unless they trust you to invest their money on businesses.
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:00 PM

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If you're a fresh grad and thinking of joining the VC business, your best bet is to go through one of the major banks. CIMB, Maybank all have VC arms which you can apply through their MT programs. It's a starting point, but of course smaller VC firms will have a lot less bureaucracy to deal with.
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post Apr 23 2011, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Apr 19 2011, 12:17 PM)
Most of VCs in Malaysia are private VC, and they usually a small group of people with a lot of money. Since they are small(and use their own money), they would prefer to find startups themselves, analyze them and make decision themselves. Unless you are working with multinational VC, I don't think they can afford higher salary unless they trust you to invest their money on businesses.
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Actually, what you have described are angel groups.

VCs in general do not fund startups, at least in Malaysia. Too much of a risk. In canada, VCs will only invest if they expect to receive around 70% on returns, that's what I heard.

Even in Malaysia there is a gap between seed and VC. Just last year, the guys from cradle helped form the VIC, an business angel group. Bob Chua is the chairman of the committee.




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post Apr 24 2011, 12:23 AM

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VIC are not recruiting any analyst as they are non profit aka can not afford to.

VC in CIMB or OSk investment will be concnetrate in ACE i guess. They are really low profile and I think most of them is hibernate
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This is one of the more interesting threads on the forum. I'm following closely.
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post Apr 27 2011, 09:45 PM

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The thread will cool very fast.
VC is still emerging in malaysia and we not not goin to know if it will goin to mature industry like US...or mayb compare with China, we are not where near them

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QUOTE(andyhui @ Apr 27 2011, 09:45 PM)
The thread will cool very fast.
VC is still emerging in malaysia and we not not goin to know if it will goin to mature industry like US...or mayb compare with China, we are not where near them
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That's right. For venture capitalist of private equity funds, there really isn't much they can do here.
E.g. if they invest in a firm, to realise their value they have to cash out, i.e. find another buyer.
However, there aren't that many buyers around.
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may i know, is it better to work in vc, pe or IB if you are fresh to start, i find that with experience with IB in malaysia doesnt really help one to break into places like singapore and hong kong, will vc or pe give a better opportunity?
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The VC Market in Malaysia is not very big due to political/economy reason.

There are quite a number of Private Investment Group around the country.
If you can prove yourself and have some network into it, you will be fund for the start up ranging from 1-3 years operating expenses with Target ROI between 30-80% depend on industries and target market.

Depend on your background, you may want to go into VC field using different route if you are not from big name company or school.

Hope this help.....

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QUOTE(wombie @ Mar 21 2012, 11:07 AM)
may i know, is it better to work in vc, pe or IB if you are fresh to start, i find that with experience with IB in malaysia doesnt really help one to break into places like singapore and hong kong, will vc or pe give a better opportunity?
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Here is my generic reply to your question.

Since you are fresh grad, just get a job in any of those vc, pe or ib company. Learn about the ropes and get the connection first. Wait for opportunities and work you way towards your goal. Being choosy with jobs will not lead you anywhere.
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QUOTE(horacetee @ Mar 21 2012, 12:23 PM)
The VC Market in Malaysia is not very big due to political/economy reason.

There are quite a number of Private Investment Group around the country.
If you can prove yourself and have some network into it, you will be fund for the start up ranging from 1-3 years operating expenses with Target ROI between 30-80% depend on industries and target market.

Depend on your background, you may want to go into VC field using different route if you are not from big name company or school.

Hope this help.....
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i am not a fresh grad, just that i am interested to pursue in vc and pe, just wanna make sure i made the correct decision
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post Jan 13 2013, 11:34 PM

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Dear all,

Anyone heard about Teek Capital before?

Website: http://www.teakcapital.com.my/

I went to google some keywords and found out we have very limited VC and they only focusing on IT industry. How about traditional business with new strategy?
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Hi there,
I am business consultant looking for a 4-5week experience in malaysia with a VC firm. Any tips? Personal situation. I am employed in London as an internal consultant and I wouldn't mind a non-remunerated job. I am seeking out for experience and exposure in the industry.
Any help would be much appreciated!
Regards,
Joan
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post Feb 24 2013, 04:11 AM

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thanks for this,
I was intending to get in touch with some local VC firms and see if they would accept having an "intern" for 4 weeks. who doesn't try, doesn't get they say. smile.gif
Would you have any tips on firms / websites that could help me get further knowledge of the local market / contact people?
Thanks once again, your help is much appreciated.
Joan
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Do you think easy to work in pe and vc? I don't think it's needed to hv intern here.

Your challenging job is to find the companies to be invested.
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QUOTE(chgchksg128 @ Mar 26 2011, 05:40 PM)
Venture capital is still an emerging industry in Malaysia.
We rarely heard people and friends around us in venture capital.
Venture capital in Malaysia are mostly funded by government to nurture SME so that we are too dependent to FDI.
Venture capital is a big industry in US. Surprisingly India and China has quite a lot of venture capital firms as the innovation and entrepreneurship in these countries are good.

Any one here is working for Cradle fund, MTDC or MAVCAP. Share your opinion of these industry and insights here. I believe many fresh grads will want to know more. I think Private fund is the next step for those in the venture capital as the salary is really low compare to Private fund.
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Talk to http://massivewisdom.com/venture-capital-p...-opportunities/
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have an interview at navis this week...

any one been there or worked there?

hows the interview process.
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ May 14 2014, 03:43 PM)
have an interview at navis this week...

any one been there or worked there?

hows the interview process.
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So do you managed to get into Navis?
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QUOTE(GlimmeringGoddess @ Aug 15 2024, 10:05 AM)
So do you managed to get into Navis?
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Nope didn't.
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Is that possible to open a VC in Malaysia. What is the license do I need to open a VC?
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QUOTE(gomydata @ Aug 15 2024, 06:39 PM)
Is that possible to open a VC in Malaysia. What is the license do I need to open a VC?
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https://www.sc.com.my/regulation/licensing/...ty-registration
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Aug 15 2024, 10:10 AM)
Nope didn't.
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May I ask where you are currently working?
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QUOTE(GlimmeringGoddess @ Aug 16 2024, 10:41 AM)
May I ask where you are currently working?
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