The programme is either 3k or 6k. Eg. if u purchase on today, then is 3k. they will ask u whether u want the physical chip or credit in slot machine. if u choose physical chip, they will give u 3 x 1k chips. if u want to play small, go to any table u wanna play, then give the dealer 3k chip and they will change it to smaller chip for u, either 500,100,50,25,10,5 also have.

NN chip: see the drill


This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 07:00 AM

either 3k / 6k. if too much don't use that, don't wish to ruin ur future. put ur money to amex account b4 buy that. the advantage of doing is because of 5x pts + cashback. if u only go once a month and on weekend, then u actually just spend 2875 to buy 3k chip. (5x pts equal to RM75 + cashback 50). on top of that u got free stay at luxury room and free buffet meal. these are the only advantage u get. so count the cost b4 u decide to go.

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Added on June 29, 2011, 7:02 amcashier will only give u 3 x 1k nn chips. go to any table game then throw it on the table, dealer will change it to smaller chip for u. those chip are definitely nn chip la, not cash chip and cannot change to cash.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 07:02 AM

still NN chip bro. different colour, size a bit big compared to normal cash chip. NN500 is red, NN100 is blue, NN50 is yellow, NN25 NN10 is white if i not mistaken. normally i change to NN100 blue and whack few hundred a round till it finish.

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Added on June 29, 2011, 11:35 amEg. u place NN100 on waisek 3, u strike they pay u RM15000 cash chip and NN100. (i doubt u have such luck ) total u have 15100 (15000 cash chip 100 nn chip). in other word, u place NN100 on waisek 3 and u lose, they just take away ur NN100.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 11:35 AM

there're method to do that. but of course the house have the edge. why not u play roulette, u place all 37 number, u sure kena 1 number right? so u only lose 1/37 of 3000 which is RM81 only.

that's why i say this package for gambler lo..

yes, u lose 36 number but u strike 1 number and they give u back 36x of 1/37, so indirectly u just converting it to cash chip. u lose 81 but what u get in return? 2 night stay worth more than 400, 4 buffet meal worth 60 per pax. even u not a gambler u may consider take this also if u would have plan a trip to genting. how much u pay for check in hotel? ur food and beverage? bro it worth the price. and like i say, it was like a double edged sword. can bring u good thing and harm u at the same time if u not control it properly.

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Added on June 29, 2011, 1:22 pmbtw, all senheng accept amex? thinking to purchase galaxy s2 over there when available..

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 01:22 PM

no, i no play big small de, coz of higher house edge (disadvantage to player). and i also not converting it, i poke it bro. depend on luck, sometimes bump into nice table, i buy the 3k package bring back 8k cash back home. no luck ma lose all lo. i small punter only.

if open 0 in roulette, u lose entire 3k. if open 111,222,333,444,555,666 at dice, u lose entire 3k also

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Added on June 29, 2011, 2:06 pmif u can go inside IR, play baccarat with commission. place 1.5k NN on both banker and player. if open player, u left 1500 NN and 1500 cash chip. place 1500 NN at banker and 1500 cash chip at player, open player again then u get back 3k cash liao lo. easy right?

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 02:06 PM

this is permissible. lot uncle did that ma. but beware, open banker they will tax u 5% of ur winning. this is the rule of baccarat.

yes, if u purely just wanna wash the NN to cash, just use roulette (guaranty lose 81) / baccarat with commission (lose 0 to 150). the other is not a good way to wash.

Amex become gambling now

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 02:54 PM

taisai de odd is under rated at malaysia because of no competitor like singapore. here, triple number pay 150x, at singapore they pay 180x. and not just 3*one and 3*six only coz got 6 type of dice combination can wipe out all big/small/odd/even namely, 111,222,333,444,555, and 666.

yes so play roulette place 37 numbers. u just lose 1/37 of ur stake.

btw, guaranty way to wash by expecting worst scenario is here (baccarat with commission):
1. Place NN1.5k on both banker and player. open banker (worst scenario as i said) u left NN1500 + Cash Chip 1425
2. Fork out ur own 75 bucks, then place NN1500 on player, Cash Chip 1500 on banker (1425 + 75 from ur pocket)
3. Open banker then u have (1425 cash chip 1500 cash chip = 2925). if open player repeat 3rd step until it open banker.
4. After open banker, deduct the 75 from ur pocket u left cash chip 2850.
5. Go to counter change the cash back and deposit back to amex.
6. Enjoys ur meal and stay.

PS:
*if at first step, the result is player, then total u will have 2925 at the end coz no 5% tax at first game.
*u might wonder why not use roulette, this is because in roulette the interval of each bet is 5 bucks. which mean u cannot whack 81 but 80 and it was troublesome as u need change to small chip and put 3x25 + 1x5 at a number. imagine u repeat this step at 37 number.

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Added on June 29, 2011, 3:32 pmnot exactly gambling, is just how to use amex and convert to cash at minimum sacrifice.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 03:35 PM

if 1st round the result is player, it's a bonus as u pay lesser 75, but for second u cannot place cash chip on player, because if u do that, u were considered gambling already coz u try to take the risk to not lose that 75. imagine first game result is player, u lose nothing with 1.5k NN remain. next few game u place ur cash chip on player and NN on banker. the outcome is banker and ur NN chip is still there remain unwash. and u lose 5% of 1.5k each round, so best is place cash chip on banker. as long as the result is player, u lose nothing still. until the result is banker, ur NN is completely wash.

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Added on June 29, 2011, 5:02 pmnow i felt like i'm evil, teaching u guys to gambling

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 29 2011, 05:02 PM

if u do it urself according to what I explain, u got 50% chance pay 75 to change to cash and 50% chance pay 150 to change it to cash. meaning confirm 100% will not more than 150 to change to cash.

it is ok to do that. in casino, the dealer will not draw the card until he saw punter place the stake. but sometimes the punter need to see trend of the game and don't wanna risk it first. so they will put both player and banker just to let it run. and it's common to do that also and don't need a partner to bet against u

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Added on June 30, 2011, 7:08 amif u buy 35 number and u strike 1 number u still got profit le. coz u place 35 units, they return u 36 units (inclusive of ur haven't lose de stake). but if ur intention is to wash the NN, don't ever take the risk even at the risk of 1/37. imagine if 37 people do that, sure got 1 lose the money. and that could be u. and u are risking 35 units to win 1 unit only, not worth of doing that.

just treat that 5% of the chip is the insurance u buy la. 95% is guaranty can get back if u allocate the 5% as insurance. and definitely if u wanna sell the other at 90% value, i think i also will take the deal from u. even u sell at 95% of the value, i also think that it is a good deal as it's possible to wash it at less than 5% of the cost. just that need more round of game. slightly little more time.

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Added on June 30, 2011, 7:16 amremember, if u were to use baccarat to wash NN, u must go for baccarat with commission. baccarat with commission only available inside IR which required the silver card to access. however, if u purchase the premium programme, u entitled to go in during ur stay period. after make the payment, go to the world card center outside of the IR, show them the premium programme card (issue to u upon u make the payment) and ask them to authorize ur green card to enter IR. then u will be able to enter for that period of 3 days. make sure the table is baccarat with commission, if u wrongly bump into the baccarat without commission, and yes the baccarat without commission didn't tax for both banker and player but when banker open 6 and win over player, u win half on banker and lose all at player.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 30 2011, 07:17 AM

IR refer to international room, not Integrated Resort. and yes, is here, not singapore.

yes, highland hotel. outside the IR got a world card center as well. go to that world card center to get ur card accessible to IR (if u were green card la)

retail transaction lai de, so no charges. u don't want to play also can geh, i buy with u at 94% value? good deal?

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Added on June 30, 2011, 4:44 pmbtw, just for u guys info, 03-23322966 is the direct number to pp (premium programme) CS. call this direct to the pp relevant department to book ur room / enquiry for pp. the phone no. in the advertisement is general line and they might not aware of pp thing as i experience that b4.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jun 30 2011, 04:44 PM

the chip u get is nn chip aka non negotiable chip, cannot change to cash. u need to play to convert it to cash chip that exchangeable to cash. meaning u were bound to play. this is unlike cash advance coz cash advance at casino cashier they give u cash chip which exchangeable to cash.

2 place only deal with pp namely,
1. first world plaza de casino mezzanine floor (non-smoking zone) at first world hotel.
2. IR at highland hotel.

TS write it wrongly.

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Added on July 1, 2011, 9:11 amif a day got 10 ppl asking me to wash, i don't mind to become "fulltime NN chip roller" at 96% value of the NN by risking myself the 1% more.

This post has been edited by timetravelller: Jul 1 2011, 09:11 AM