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post Jun 2 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Jun 2 2015, 04:16 PM)
Haustern and Rubine sink are from same company, different branding and small design change
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no wonder! besides haustern granite composite undermount large single bowl sinks, any other recommendations?
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post Jun 3 2015, 04:56 AM

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QUOTE(Chigme @ May 24 2015, 11:22 AM)
I choose top mount, easy to change the sink in future without damage to countertop. So far I use two years no leaking problem , silicon still working fine and not dirty as claim.
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Hi Chigme, I also bought a top-mount sink from Teka to the opposition of my contractor. He keeps claiming that it'll leak and so forth, don't know why.
Anyways, would like to ask some questions. Is the rim of the sink hollow for yours? Mine is hollow, quite a large indent on the rim with just a very narrow rim where it meets the countertop. Been looking for advice on how to install, do I just fill the hollow with lots of silicon or what.

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post Jun 3 2015, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(bernking @ Jun 2 2015, 04:25 PM)
no wonder! besides haustern granite composite undermount large single bowl sinks, any other recommendations?
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Blanco
http://www.blanco-germany.com/en/int/home.html

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post Jun 3 2015, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 3 2015, 04:56 AM)
Hi Chigme, I also bought a top-mount sink from Teka to the opposition of my contractor. He keeps claiming that it'll leak and so forth, don't know why.
Anyways, would like to ask some questions. Is the rim of the sink hollow for yours? Mine is hollow, quite a large indent on the rim with just a very narrow rim where it meets the countertop. Been looking for advice on how to install, do I just fill the hollow with lots of silicon or what.

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Leaking is due to bad installation not because how you mount it.

Do flush mount is the best of both worlds compare with top and undermount. But you need precise cut outs and proper installation. The sink must also be able to do flush mount.
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post Jun 3 2015, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 3 2015, 06:08 AM)
Leaking is due to bad installation not because how you mount it.

Do flush mount is the best of both worlds compare with top and undermount. But you need precise cut outs and proper installation. The sink must also be able to do flush mount.
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Flush mount should be only for sinks with completely flat rims, am I correct? Sadly not possible with mine.
Still looking for tips on how to mount, don't want any leakages in the future.
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post Jun 4 2015, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 3 2015, 12:54 PM)
Flush mount should be only for sinks with completely flat rims, am I correct? Sadly not possible with mine.
Still looking for tips on how to mount, don't want any leakages in the future.
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Why so difficult to mount a sink? What is the reason your contractor given you that it easy to leak? Where will it leak?
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post Jun 4 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 08:53 AM)
Why so difficult to mount a sink? What is the reason your contractor given you that it easy to leak? Where will it leak?
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My contractor claimed it will leak, partly because I feel he doesn't have experience doing top mounted sinks.
As for now, I'm planning to do it myself but not very sure how to as it seems I'll have to put a ton of sealant on the rim lol. It's Teka's Intro, and the edge where the sink meets the counter is very thin with a deep hollow inside. Sort of like an inverted U.

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post Jun 4 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 4 2015, 09:42 AM)
My contractor claimed it will leak, partly because I feel he doesn't have experience doing top mounted sinks.
As for now, I'm planning to do it myself but not very sure how to as it seems I'll have to put a ton of sealant on the rim lol. It's Teka's Intro, and the edge where the sink meets the counter is very thin with a deep hollow inside. Sort of like an inverted U.

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Put the sink picture here, back and front and everything. What is the sink model.

Probably people here can help you.

I m using top mount sink for 18yrs. Not even a drip of water leak down till now. But it is a good sink.
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post Jun 4 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 10:05 AM)
Put the sink picture here, back and front and everything. What is the sink model.

Probably people here can help you.

I m using top mount sink for 18yrs. Not even a drip of water leak down till now. But it is a good sink.
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It's this one.
If you notice the edges, the rim curves down at the edge to meet the counter and the parts below the rim is hollow. So the problem is if I'm to apply sealant, I'm going to need a heck lot to fill all 4 edges. I feel the edge alone is not enough to apply sealant as most I can apply is maybe half bead since the steel is not exactly thick and also curved.

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post Jun 4 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 10:05 AM)
Put the sink picture here, back and front and everything. What is the sink model.

Probably people here can help you.

I m using top mount sink for 18yrs. Not even a drip of water leak down till now. But it is a good sink.
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I am also using top mount for the past 15 years till I sold my house. Never had issue with leaking. Only changed the silicon sealant diy once throughout my stay. No rust either. Somehow those days rm300 sinks is much better quality than nowadays rm800 sink.
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post Jun 4 2015, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 4 2015, 03:19 PM)
user posted image
It's this one.
If you notice the edges, the rim curves down at the edge to meet the counter and the parts below the rim is hollow. So the problem is if I'm to apply sealant, I'm going to need a heck lot to fill all 4 edges. I feel the edge alone is not enough to apply sealant as most I can apply is maybe half bead since the steel is not exactly thick and also curved.

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Looks like it can be mounted top or bottom
http://www.xammax.my/teka-1-bowl-sink-intro-60.html

Usually bottom more difficult to install. Dunno why your contractor have problem doing top mount which is the easiest

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post Jun 4 2015, 06:41 PM

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common style top mount has less leak issues than undermount.. why so much excuse from contractor?
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post Jun 4 2015, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 4 2015, 03:19 PM)
user posted image
It's this one.
If you notice the edges, the rim curves down at the edge to meet the counter and the parts below the rim is hollow. So the problem is if I'm to apply sealant, I'm going to need a heck lot to fill all 4 edges. I feel the edge alone is not enough to apply sealant as most I can apply is maybe half bead since the steel is not exactly thick and also curved.

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Aiyo, pack like that how to see? Cannot brain what you mean aslso.

BTW, your picture model cannot find in teka website. Fake 1?
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post Jun 4 2015, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 08:17 PM)
Aiyo, pack like that how to see? Cannot brain what you mean aslso.

BTW, your picture model cannot find in teka website. Fake 1?
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Click on my link biggrin.gif
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post Jun 4 2015, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 08:17 PM)
Aiyo, pack like that how to see? Cannot brain what you mean aslso.

BTW, your picture model cannot find in teka website. Fake 1?
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It's actually from past season, or only available in certain markets. That's a problem with Teka actually, they have a lot of models and the website sometimes doesn't even give support for certain models. Had the same problem with my hood also.

What I mean is, if you look at the edge you can see it curved downwards. The rim itself is quite big, and underneath that is hollow. So the only point making contact with the counter is the edge of the rim. Imagine a piece of bent metal, or reverse U shape like I mentioned.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 4 2015, 06:41 PM)
common style top mount has less leak issues than undermount.. why so much excuse from contractor?
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Over here in Kuching a lot of contractors doing undermounted, regardless of whether the sink is actually supported or not. Something of a trend among house owners. biggrin.gif
So I'd understand if my contractor has a lack of experience with top mounted since not many house owners request for it. I've done a lot of research on it, and in the end decided to go with top mounted since it's a better solution everything else considered.

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post Jun 4 2015, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 4 2015, 09:35 PM)
It's actually from past season, or only available in certain markets. That's a problem with Teka actually, they have a lot of models and the website sometimes doesn't even give support for certain models. Had the same problem with my hood also.

What I mean is, if you look at the edge you can see it curved downwards. The rim itself is quite big, and underneath that is hollow. So the only point making contact with the counter is the edge of the rim. Imagine a piece of bent metal, or reverse U shape like I mentioned.
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Try to open and see got rubber seal or not.

You no need to apply the whole inside. Just at the almost the edge is enough. Once to press on it, the seal will spread out. Wipe clean the seal that spit out.

I saw the sink like got some clip lock at the side.
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post Jun 5 2015, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 4 2015, 11:12 PM)
Try to open and see got rubber seal or not.

You no need to apply the whole inside. Just at the almost the edge is enough. Once to press on it, the seal will spread out. Wipe clean the seal that spit out.

I saw the sink like got some clip lock at the side.
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Yep, there's a clip lock attached.
No rubber seal though, just empty spaces. If I apply only on the edge, quite worried that the seal won't be enough since the contact point with the counter is very, very thin. Unless I custom make a rubber seal, or fill the hollow with some rubber material to make a flat edge.

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post Jun 5 2015, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Jun 5 2015, 04:30 AM)
Yep, there's a clip lock attached.
No rubber seal though, just empty spaces. If I apply only on the edge, quite worried that the seal won't be enough since the contact point with the counter is very, very thin. Unless I custom make a rubber seal, or fill the hollow with some rubber material to make a flat edge.

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I don't understand what you mean very very thin the contact. Can't see the picture sink properly how is the edge shape. Get a close up picture and the bottom side.

You can get the rubber from the ACE. Those door and window seal rubber. I forget the brand. Still have a roll in my store room.

This is my sink edge. Any similar? I don't remember it have a rubber seal or using silicon. But I cannot see any silicon seal on the whole edge of the sink.

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post Jun 5 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 5 2015, 08:40 AM)
I don't understand what you mean very very thin the contact. Can't see the picture sink properly how is the edge shape. Get a close up picture and the bottom side.

You can get the rubber from the ACE. Those door and window seal rubber. I forget the brand. Still have a roll in my store room.

This is my sink edge. Any similar? I don't remember it have a rubber seal or using silicon. But I cannot see any silicon seal on the whole edge of the sink.

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look at the photo you posted - the rims is curved upwards and inside it is hollow so there is no place to put the silicone

ozak - do you mean these weather seals?
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